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Chomps

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #45 on: 09 Oct 2002, 00:30:42 »
Granted the M-21 has been done to death and is a bit heavy... but there are other 7.62mm precision rifles out there. Why not a HK G3SG1, MSG-90, or even a PSG-1, all of which have fantastic models already made for OFP? If you prefer a US based sniper weapon, how about a SR-25 with Knight supressor, Harris bipod and Leupold scope?


True, the HK mod has made all of those quite well.  In fact, their MSG90 is absolutely superb, except for the visible tracers.  If you could get their permission to use any of those rifles, that would be swell.

On another note, the Taiwan Workshop released a new version of their US machine gun pack, you may want to check it out.

PunkerSXDX

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #46 on: 09 Oct 2002, 01:24:18 »
You could try using Guns from the Tales of war sight they have a Good M21 (but like said before it's been done... to DEATH!) with cammo and a Silencer, or one of the M4s on the MF Recon guys (donno if it's separate), BTW a Sniper is any one over looking the Battle Picking Folks off from cover, you could be a Sniper with a Kozlice (not Likely) so an M16 would work for a "Sniper" it's the just Rifles specialy Designed for Sniping (sorry didn't mean to Preach), the Army Special Forces Guys should come equiped with AKs too I know in Vietnam they used AKs deep in enemy terittory cause the AK sounds A LOT different from an M16 and wanted to Blend in, so the NVA would think it was Charlie cookin' Breakfast not a Raid.

Frosty

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #47 on: 09 Oct 2002, 10:51:07 »
And also US Special Troops preffered the AK over their "Jammin' Jinny/Jimmy". Damn A1 got dirt in the chamber too easily, and the plastic stock broke heaps. Thats why it was also called the "Mattel Toy"

mattmayhem

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #48 on: 09 Oct 2002, 15:24:14 »
If you do a suppresed M4 for a sniper weapon, make an M4 shorty with a large extended scilecer, I think that it looks much much nicer than the dinky socom scilencer at the end  of the barrel. Great work !!! .  ;)

P.s Delta one zero why wouldint the M68 aimpoints not workout for a sniper on the M4 ?

Delta_One_Zero

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #49 on: 09 Oct 2002, 21:53:07 »
P.s Delta one zero why wouldint the M68 aimpoints not workout for a sniper on the M4 ?
I was actually stating that it would be better with one than without, but there isn't a M4 with the M68 Reflex addon around at the moment, at least from my understanding, correct me if i'm wrong of course. (The TOW US Marine Force Recon soldiers  have the Trijicon TAO1 4x32 ACOG Scope on their M4A1's)
Of course there is Flipers' M4A1 w/M68 pack, can't wait till thats released.
I might add that the M68 is better suited too CQB style ops, hense the CCO in its name (Close Combat Optics), which would of course be perfect for Delta Operators.
« Last Edit: 09 Oct 2002, 22:03:41 by Delta_One_Zero »

Ferret Fangs

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #50 on: 10 Oct 2002, 03:49:12 »
Speaking of Delta...
Today I attended a counter-terrorism briefing hosted by the American Military University at a local AFB. One of the guest speakers at the seminar was a SOF-D operator. He didn't say, and I didn't ask, if he was still kicking down doors- he looked approximatly in his mid-thirties. Not important.
Anyway... after the briefing, I had a chance to share a cup of coffee with him, and ask a couple (unclassified) questions. Faithfully, my mind was on OFP and BHD.
First, I asked him what weapon Delta snipers used, and was told: Delta snipers- like all SOF-D operators- carry whatever weapon(s) they are most comfortable/profficient with, and are limited only by what hardware is stored in their vaults. Whatever makes the badguy DEAD. The guns most often used are all of the one's we've seen, and have discussed in this thread. He did mention the AWP and Galil weapons, as well. Delta snipers typically shoot from less than 300m, with a 7.62mm in most cases... though if the mission requires, they can/will use the .50 out to maximum range. This guy was a CQB specialist and said he used an Aimpoint equipped MP5-SD most of the time.
My other line of questioning dealt with Delta medics...  I asked if SOF-D brought their own doc's with them on an operation, or did they use other SPECOPS medical units for emergencies? His answer was: Both are correct. Delta members are all trained in intermediate to advanced first-aid and lifesupport. In a team, one or two operators will have more medical training and will be equipped and tasked to be a medic for fellow team members. If the mission is primarily hostage rescue related, additional medical support units are tasked to the operation. These units would include USAF PJ's, and sometimes USN SEAL corpsman.
I was satisfied with the info, and didn't want to be a bore, so I chose to end the discussion with a trip to the breakfast cart.

mattmayhem

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #51 on: 10 Oct 2002, 05:25:44 »
Thats some nice info ferret ! Must have been neat to talk to that operator. I am not suprised that their snipers engage at minus 300 meters, i can see delta snipers supporting close in on nearby roofs or choppers or whatever.So they wpuld probably look exactly like any other member of the assault team. I can see marine snipers as the real long range, sneak around stalking in a ghuile suit etc...

STEELE

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #52 on: 10 Oct 2002, 14:20:08 »
Bibmi & I are toying with a couple of NEW M4's for delta now, stay tuned ;)

Longknife

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #53 on: 10 Oct 2002, 22:09:15 »
Does this include the long awaited and highly anticipated "Special Forces" units?

Bibmi

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #54 on: 11 Oct 2002, 00:56:21 »
Well everthing seems to be on track....ETA....I can't give an exact date but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that everything will be ready before the end of the month...

A few things to point out...this is not a pack as such but a colloection of addons...for ease of editing and to keep the textures from getting mixed up there will a large number of pbo's...oh no, I hear you cry...I hate lots of pbo files....but then again you may not want all the units...so it will save you download time and my sanity.  ;D

The addon(s) will include....


1. Rangers (desert and woodland) 99% done (coding left to do)

2. Delta Force (desert and woodland) 98% done (coding and M4 coding left to do)

          - the M4s (be kind and remeber weapon models aren't my thing) include M4 with acog, M4 with reflex and a sniper kitted M4.

3. Army Special Forces (green berets in woodland and desert) 99% done coding to do

4. USAF Parajumpers (woodland and desert) 99% done, coding still has to be started.

5. Regular Infantry (woodland and desert) 90% done, finishing desert textures and coding

                    - I decided to do some regular forces to compliment the Rangers...they have body armor,LBE and packs, but no kneepads or goggles.

6. SEALs (woodland, desert and night ops) 50% done...this is a revamp of my earlier Seals addon



AS you can see there is a boat load....

Chomps

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #55 on: 11 Oct 2002, 01:14:29 »
Yes!!  That sounds great!  If you release them after the v1.85, please include them in your own vehicle class (for more info, http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=2428;start=0;boardseen=1), so you do not have to give them the BIB tag, so they are perfect.

Also, I saw the pictures of the PJs... very nice work, they should fit well with the special operations choppers from BAS.

Any more pictures would be nice, though. ;D Keep up the good work!!

Coporal_Punishment

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #56 on: 11 Oct 2002, 01:16:52 »
Wowee that'll be awsome BTW is there anyway to replace the default regular troops with your troops Bibmi ???

PunkerSXDX

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #57 on: 11 Oct 2002, 02:48:31 »
Wow  :o Bibmi, Steele, Ogady ogady ogady! you boys have been busy, hey the Army Special Forces will have guys with Berets Right?

Ferret Fangs

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #58 on: 11 Oct 2002, 03:21:38 »
Awesome! 'Bout time someone kicked it up a notch... and thank you for the PJ's!!! They were waaaay overdue! I was wondering... could you give us some info as to how the special ability's/attributes for the various units is being implemented? For instance, the PJ should be able to heal of course... Delta operators should have increased skill levels, accuracy, etc. Rangers should have greatly increased armor, though I don't know if there is a way to model body armor...?
Black Baron's T-800 mod has increased armor, but I think he modeled the unit from a tank or something, maybe we should ask him? Army and Navy SPECOPS units should have higher camoflage capability, and so forth...
And for regular troops, do you think you could make them representitive of the various era's of technology? For instance, troops since the 'Ninties started carrying the M-4, Barreta sidearm, PASGT armor, goggles, kneepads, etc.
The next era would be Landwarrior, with an M-4/M203 and that massive IIR/LLTV scope... combined armor/LBE, kneepads/elbow pads, SOCOM pistol, etc. See here for info and pic's: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/land-warrior.htm

And the icing on the cake could be the Objective Force Warrior, which looks like a green Stormtrooper from Star Wars with the OICW, PDW sidearm, and so on. You can see what the prototype system looks like here: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2002/n05242002_200205248.html
and better pic is here: http://www.janes.com/regional_news/americas/news/jdw/jdw020610_1_n.shtml

Bibmi

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Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
« Reply #59 on: 11 Oct 2002, 05:31:56 »
Just for you Chomps... ;)

Added some more pics...

http://www.angelfire.com/games4/bibspecops/