SEB Nam Pack 2.0

[T.S.C.Plage]

Yippieh!!!
A PT-76 will be great...finally something "bigger" to blow up on the enemy side (ermmm...do I take position...hell yes!).  ;D
With a truck and a jeep this will give some good targets for the choppers.

It's a shame that you aren't "allowed" to do real sized Vietnamese units...but I think in all the action on the battlefield it's only a small bug.

Hey Vyper,

you're telling me that the ARA UH-1 is a "common" used support for the Air Cav?
So why I've never heard or seen something about them before!?! Don't want to say I'm the almighty but I've spended much time on Air Cav pages to find some insignias for my flagpack and other infos and I never saw something like this before!
But I'm going to search again to see what I can find...maybe I'm proved wrong.

And as CobraSquad mentioned I also think the version with the two miniguns/four M60Ds and the two FFAR pods (btw, I think they've used both versions 19 and 7 shot) is the most common one.

Watched WWS again (in German it's: "We were heros"!?!) and guess what version is in the movie (I know that proves nothing!).

Greetz
Plage

[Vyper]

The 7th Air Cavalry division didn't fly the ARA Huey's.....so thats why you wont see them on any aircav pages. They were flown by the ariel artiliary squadrons that specialised in the flying of the ARA's.

Watching WWS and stating that they were not used in that is, your completely right, showing nothing at all. If you read the book (Which i know is still wrong in some areas but is much much more accurate than the movie) you'll see that the ARA Were instrumental in keep large enemy forces at bay and that the minigun UH-1C's weren't used at all.

If you look for anything on Air Cavalry you wont find much on the ARA.

Consulting a 'battle of the Ia Drang' veterans page i found out this:

"The ARA Helicopters chewing up the slops of the Chu Pong Massif [for those that only know the movie, this was the mountin looming of LZ X-ray] on our behalf were from Charlie BAttery, 2nd Battalion, 20th Artillery (ARA), commanded by Major Roger J. Bartholomew who was also known as the legendary 'Black Bart'....."

So there you are, movies are very rarely factual to specifics. Don't believe anything unless you have many sources confirming that  , thats the first rule or Historical Research.

Vyper

[Vyper]

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[Eviscerator]

How to get three 19 shot pods on the cobra? One under the middle body of it? ;D
I'm not sure but maybe it's possible to get four big pods (two each side) on the AH-1?

And I'm also not sure about the caliber of the main cannon? I think it's 7,62mm but on my pic they're loading 20mm (vulcan ammo).
Can you tell me cause you mentioned two types of gatlings?

first off the set up of ffars will be

 O O (  ) X O

with the X being the M195 and the O's being ffar pods

and its 20mm so it does use vulcan ammo as its basically a vulcan that has been shortened




the M134 is a 7.62mm minigun and is tiny in comparison:

[DeadMeatXM2]

Thats some great work guys, really i would like to see all of the hueys moddeled, but i know it wont be a possibility, so, make what you want, but make 'em good.

Keep up the good work, can't wait to get me hands on the nam pack v.2

[Dkraver]

Two things
1. Instead of having 3 rocketpods and 1 minigun. Then make it like this

D R   R M

D = Duel machine Gun
http://filosof.ath.cx/yabbse/attachments/gunship1.jpg
R = Rocket Pod
M = Minigun

2. Have you thought about making any close air support planes. 2 that pops up would be the
A1 Skyraider
http://freespace.virgin.net/charles.mchugh/ArtA1.jpg
http://www.farfromglory.com/images/VNAF_A-1H.jpg
http://kimbasangels.com/a1.jpg
http://digilander.iol.it/torpedoclub/Vietnam2.jpg
Armed with rocket pods and free fall bombs (maybe napalm bombs) and a machingun.
And the F4 Phantom
http://www.hasegawa-model.co.jp/masa/F4nellisEOS03.JPG
http://www.cc.gatech.edu/fac/Thomas.Pilsch/AirOps/Images/F4-in_hot.jpg
http://www.luke.af.mil/308fs/History/VNPres/f4e01M.JPG
http://www.danshistory.com/f4.jpg
With same kind of load out as above

[Eviscerator]

the AH-1G has never mounted dual M60s...

[SelectThis]

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[Aeon]

Will you use code from AH-1 Module A ? the point is that grenade launcher is in fact a gun with explosive bullet and straight balistic whereas it would had parabolic trajectory  :-\
Why not a gunship with only FFAR ? more simple and realistic, and I believe it was the most common outfit configuration

[T.S.C.Plage]

Argggggg...That's defenitly not what I want but if it's the only "working" solution I think you've to chose this version.
And of course it looks great!

Thanks for all the pics and the infos mates!!! Again, I'm not the type of guy who can't change his opinion.
I think Eviscerator only talked about the Cobra loadout and Vyper only about the ARAs and Gunships of the Hueys, right?
Btw, isn't the name of the short version "Iroquois" or is the whole series of UH-1s called like that?

And isn't SEB the short for SelectThis, Ebud and Bibmi? Because I always thought the pack and other stuff beginning with SEB is done by your three great guys.

Also we should realy start a 'Nam resources topic again.

Everybody go on like this!

Greetz
Plage

[CobraSquad]

Hey t.s.c plage cobrasquad here can u send me those kool vietnam units ur friend was workin on  i would like the nva truck muddy m-113 and nam  m-60 send em to christopher38.stevenson@btopenworld.com
 :cheers:
thanx m8

[Nokic]

Sorry, i cant. There are some bugs and we try to make it better .
If it is done, i hope its free for public.
We just wait for the 2nd Nam Pack. We make then our Campaign and bring with it our AddOns out.
hope you can wait  

[Eviscerator]

I think Eviscerator only talked about the Cobra loadout and Vyper only about the ARAs and Gunships of the Hueys, right?

i was talking about ARA's and the cobra, i think i talked about the cobra once you said the huey would be just the same as the cobra

[Dkraver]

the AH-1G has never mounted dual M60s...

Wasnt talking about the cobra but the huey gunship   Ebud was talking about changing it because he couldt get both miniguns to rotate so i surgested to make the duel MG on one side and the minigun on the other. Anyways i dont think those on the picture are M60's more like M2's but i might be wrong. Secondly another plane that would look good in this addon would be O-2A FAC with a rocketpod under each wing
http://www.aviationmuseum.com.au/images/planes/O-2.jpg
Anyways are you thinking about adding vietnam era planes??

[Eviscerator]

first off the set up of ffars will be

 O O (  ) X O

with the X being the M195 and the O's being ffar pods

Two things
1. Instead of having 3 rocketpods and 1 minigun. Then make it like this

D R   R M

D = Duel machine Gun
R = Rocket Pod
M = Minigun

ebud isnt making any aircraft....