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Dubieman

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #30 on: 13 Dec 2004, 20:15:35 »
What about Russia attacking Alaska? Across the Bering Sea?

Then down the coast or something. Only problem is the island needed, sort of.

They could invade the big archpeligo there, its called uh....
something.

Lets attack some eskimos! :P :P

Tomasz

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #31 on: 13 Dec 2004, 20:36:29 »
You mean the Aleucian Islands? Nice idea. Some winter islands. winter campaign. Plus the soviets are good in the snow  :) :D

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #32 on: 13 Dec 2004, 21:46:14 »
A good excuse to use my winter units  ;)

Maybe you could do the mission on winter kodiak island
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Tomasz

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #33 on: 14 Dec 2004, 10:28:06 »
Any screens?
How big is it?

Would it fit the northern pacific paysage?

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #34 on: 14 Dec 2004, 16:58:37 »
Kodiak island is about as big a Nogova, but has bigger towns. It has acouple of lakes, some mountains, and some training grounds. As for pacific paysage, it just looks like a snowy Nogova with more towns and a different shape.
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Sophion

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #35 on: 15 Dec 2004, 14:22:34 »
...I beleive the Soviets would not attack America through Alaska, that would be foolish. It would be asking for a defeat. The Soviets would possibly invade San Fransico, it has a big harbor and natual formations for defence. Good for unloading troops and supplies for more advancement. They would leave Alaska alone because it doesn't have any militia woth attacking.

the Soviets would have to act fast to actually defeat the Americans. That would have to be placed in the campaign (people setting up fortifications and then you moving out). Since the Americans have a far greater foce and men devoted to defend their country, it would be a long and difficult campaign for the Soviets. Even some covert missions would require time (and extreme effort) to finnish.

Tomasz

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #36 on: 15 Dec 2004, 16:55:06 »
The Soviets would never invade San Francisco for they would never have any supply bases in the area, and if the US would notice the fleet comming ( and they would ), they would sink it 300km from the shore.

USSR would have interest in attacking Alaska due to its oil deposits. Alaska would be a base for further operations, and US would find it difficult to fight in freezing conditions.

another option is an invasion through Mexico. Mexico would benefit getting back Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. the USSR would have land supply lines and the US would find it difficult to flank such a huge army over such a spread out terrain. In addition to secure the mississippi, USSR could land from Mexico to New Orleans, but land pathways would have to be opened to Mexico.

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Sophion

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #37 on: 16 Dec 2004, 15:04:01 »
then if they would invade Alaska, Canada would get involved (and so would others with a domino effect; NATO). The Soviets would be forced to invade San Fransico.

Not many people know this but the japanies actually called back a minisub that was 2 1/4 miles away from the LA coast on Dec 6 (it was for recon). And there's speculation on why a NAZI submaire is at the bottom of the New York Harbor.

So if the soviets sent out a fleet of submarines to attack the area, the Americans would be weak enough for an air attack. then finnaly, an invasion of San Fransico. It would be tough, but the soviets would have a strong foothold on the continintial US.

Sophion

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #38 on: 16 Dec 2004, 15:07:14 »
oh... just a little correction,

Mexico did take the bait with the Zemermen note (from NAZI Germany)

Dubieman

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #39 on: 16 Dec 2004, 20:33:39 »
Well, Mexico seems like a good place to start, but isn't it mostly flat desert once you near the USA?

Then I think the superior american airforce would prolly destroy most of the Russian war machine.

Alaska would have oil, and well I can't see Canada being a major obstacle though. If the Russians could get streams of men and supplies and tanks over the Bering Strait quick enough. Attacking the continental USA would hard no matter how you do it...

Unless we had lazer gunz... :P :D :P

Tomasz

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« Reply #40 on: 16 Dec 2004, 21:53:36 »
Ok, so lets say that the fighting has begun. USSR opened two fronts, one in alaska and one from Mexico.

They have new generation AA and outnumber the US with the amount of aircraft.

Heavy fighting is going on, and US progressively loses land. On the pacific however, to make sure that the supply lines to Mexico and San Francisco are save, USSR has take the US amin harbour, Pearl Harbor.

Thats why General Zukov gets orders from Stalin to invade Ouahu from the north with the 34th Infantry Division.  In the desperate battle of the Pacific, the US send General McArthur on the site with the 341st National Guard.

They arrive 3 days before the invasion, and are able to organize themsleves somewhat when they witness their fleet forced withdrawal from the battlefield against the Soviet fleet. It is inevitable that they'll land soon, in a mater of hours.

"Don't ask what America can do for you, ask what you can do for America"

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Sophion

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« Reply #41 on: 17 Dec 2004, 12:44:40 »
hmm... then the Americans would send troops from Midway and Iwo Jima to Hawii. Then Troops from Berlin, Germany, France, And Great Britain to invade the weakened area of western USSR. Then obviously take moscow in a matter of weeks.

You have to remember that the US forces were not limited to the US, they were all over.

Tomasz

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« Reply #42 on: 17 Dec 2004, 13:32:03 »
We already said that D-Day was never a success and that USSR secured the entire European Continent. US tropps in the Pacific are facing the Japanese. The 3million US army in Britain, which makes most of US forces, lets say ::), had to return to the US from economical and social causes.

Except for Ouahu, the Soviets may also attack the Aleutian Islands to secure northern pathways.

I also thought of a new addon, it's a remake of the C-2A Grayhound that was originally made for transportation in the 1960s, but would make a good plane for short range navy tactical bomber.


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Sophion

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« Reply #43 on: 17 Dec 2004, 14:43:49 »
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and that USSR secured the entire European Continent

*cough* Spain, Sweeden, Switzerland *cough*

Then the middle east and african countries came to aid the Brithish and American forces, and the US would send troops to persuade the Japanies to join forces with the Americans (by bribing them with much needed oil). Korea China, India, and French Indochina would all attack the Soviet Union fron the east. They would have to push through Siberia where they would find "enemies of the poeple" and they might want to help in the overthrow of Stalin.

Also, lets not forget Aulstria....

Tomasz

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Re:1949 - Soviets in America???
« Reply #44 on: 17 Dec 2004, 15:58:45 »
Why do u complicate it so much.  ??? :-[ :( :hmm: :tomato:

Tomasz

PS. The countries you mentioned would never have the resources in terms of men.

Japan has imperialistic ambitions, it would never go along US rules.

Spain Swiz, Sweeden would be very easy to take.