Exellenté, I cant beleive I actually forgot "polygons", after I posted that I went out had a walk around town and then it came back to me, been doing an on-line training course, bloody thing had me designing networks and domain trees and stuff, just what I need on a Friday! And now to top it off I gotta write some fiction on what I've been doing this week, since I cant very well put, messed about with server, broke server, fixed server, checked OFPEC forums, stared out of window, used asset management software to look for mp3s on other people's machines and copy them if they are any good, spent an hour wandering round the building carry 5m of rj45 cable, a 10/100 network card and a screwdriver, spent afternoon on SurfControl laughing at the sites people are accessing ;D