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Offline Morglor9

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Everon Army
« on: 03 Apr 2005, 05:08:47 »
Who knows what happened to Everon after that little incident with General Guba? Ok, nobody actually does. I'm suggesting that someone make a modern everon army. I got the idea when i saw Christoph's Everon Republic Infantry. Some units could include:
-T72 tanks
-Regular infantry
-Spec Ops
-Mi-2 helicopters
-MiG 21 fighter jet
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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #1 on: 03 Apr 2005, 05:48:17 »
I'd like to see different island's armies. It'd be cool to have those sort of island vs island battles... ;)

As for the technology. I'd think that:

Armor: Mainly BMPs and the T72 is rare, powerful, but expensive toy :o ;D ;)

air: At most a light heli like a Mi-2 and as for planes, I think a small cennsna or something would be more appropriate. I don't think the islands are very wealthy so.... :P

But then again, if you have friends in high places...

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infantry: I agree, regulars and commandos

Offline Morglor9

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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #2 on: 03 Apr 2005, 08:05:59 »
to supplement the armour they could also use T55s. I think they need at least something like a MiG-17 or Su22 Fitter. I bet they could also use Mi-8 helicopters, and something like a Beriev 32 K for a transport plane.
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« Reply #3 on: 03 Apr 2005, 08:18:51 »
I would think you could have large forces of conscripts, using old vehicles, not much armour. Then, you would have ultra-elite (or so they think) spec op type units wity very expensive toys (probably the newest french mirages, english AA missles, French ECM, and Swiss or Belgien guns. Then add Russian armour, and you have a third world army unit. ;D

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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #4 on: 03 Apr 2005, 12:10:10 »
Where would they get the resources? Better to make some kind of volunteer militia for the islands.

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« Reply #5 on: 04 Apr 2005, 20:53:01 »
yes, it should be a smaller army, made up mainly of reserves. also, i think all units should use swiss, german or belgian guns. i get so tired of AKs and M16/M4s. I think an HK G3A4 would do well. mainly older armour, planes and units. Although i said modern army, we must remember that the nation of Everon would have a small economy. also remember that MiG-21s and T72s are over thirty years old...
« Last Edit: 07 Apr 2005, 07:32:57 by Morglor9 »
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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #6 on: 09 Apr 2005, 16:19:45 »
My Everon Army is a volunteer militia with a hard-core of professional
officers and NCOS. They have NATO kit - mainly British; Belgian FN SLRs,
Sterling SMGs, FN MAG GPMGs and some Brens. Despite being militia
(or perhaps because of...) they are dedicated and capable. They pride
themselves on their marksmanship (I give the bad guys HD weapons to
ensure this   ;) ) and fieldcraft (careful mission design ensures this too).
As part of an island militia they are trained in the Marine Light Infantry
role. As such they regularly take part in schemes alongside the Royal
Marines from whom they have earned great respect and as part of their
NATO commitment are affiliated with the British 3rd Commando Brigade.

I too am fed up of Eastern-bloc kit and M16s   ;)
« Last Edit: 09 Apr 2005, 16:30:00 by Jimpy »

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« Reply #7 on: 09 Apr 2005, 22:11:13 »
that sounds excellent. what do you use for uniforms?
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Jimpy

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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #8 on: 09 Apr 2005, 22:31:03 »
British '58 webbing and olive drab battledress. The officers wear British
DPM.

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« Reply #9 on: 11 Apr 2005, 06:24:50 »
excellent. perhaps there's an addon make out there that would bundle these together and write some configs/change armpatches to make an everon army infantry pack.
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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #10 on: 11 Apr 2005, 06:58:44 »
While we're setting up a army for Everon, why not Malden, Nogova and Kolgujev as well? I think we can all agree Kolgujev would most likely be using ex-soviet equipment almost exclusivly... but then again we could arm them with obscure small production arms like the Ukrainian Vepr assault rifle (see link below).
As for Malden: I'd think they'd be more influenced (not to mention supported) by the U.S. and the west... so I'd arm them with things like the Diemaco M/95 (the export version of the Canadian Diemaco C7). As for vehicles I'd use older western tanks like the M60 (not the refited type) as well as older aircraft like the Huey. the explanation being that the US is providing all these things cheap.
Nogova I think has the strongest economy of the islands and may be able to buy higher-end weapons and still remain independent of western support... I'm thinking somthing like a licence-built variation of the SIG SG-540 rifle made by Switzerland with some modifications. Tanks I'd think somthing along the lines of second-hand european designs and aircraft things like the SA 330 Puma.

Vepr Assault rifle:
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as68-e.htm

SIG SG-540:
http://world.guns.ru/assault/as47-e.htm

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« Reply #11 on: 11 Apr 2005, 14:27:56 »
My Everon troops are set at the period of the Soviet invasion
though (ie. circa 1985). The suggestions for the other islands armies
imply a contemporary date (ie. early 21 st century). If I were making
the Everon Self Defence Force (ESDF) up to date then their kit and organisation
would have to be different. In that case they would probably all wear
British Soldier '95 clothing, private-purchase Arktis chest webbing sets
and have a modern assault rifle firing 5.56mm NATO; most probably the
Heckler & Koch G36, with MG36 light machine guns.
I would imagine that they would have been offered the British L85A1
SA80, but would have rejected it as unreliable (although appreciating its
impressive ballistic accuracy). The US M16 system would have been
rejected for the same reasons. Also tried would be some of the modern
Kalashnikov designs rebored in 5.56mm NATO but they would be rejected
due to their less than optimal ergonomics and lack of accuracy. They
would also have field trialled the Steyr AUG, FN 2000 and the G36 and
finally plumped for the Heckler & Koch due to its proven reliability, accuracy,
modularity and attractive price.
The force would have no heavy armour, probably just the British MCV 80
Warrior and variants with some CVR(T)s. Air mobility would be provided by
Lynx helicopters, which can carry and deliver ordnance if required.

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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #12 on: 12 Apr 2005, 06:43:06 »
@coldfire: I would definately like to see all the BIS islands' armies. especially Nogova, as i could use them in a campaign i'm working on. also, i like the look of the Sig SG-540. would work very nice for our friends on Everon.

@Jimpy: I think the army you're creating is getting kinda pricey for Everon, IMO. The older stuff may work better because:

a. They could buy more of it for the same price.
b. It would keep up the illusion of a poorer country still reeling from the horrors of war and trying to calm it's citizens by having a large army. Remember that it would take a small island a long time to fully recover from an invasion.

just my thoughts.
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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #13 on: 12 Apr 2005, 08:02:22 »

Jimpy

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Re:Everon Army
« Reply #14 on: 12 Apr 2005, 08:53:32 »
@Jimpy: I think the army you're creating is getting kinda pricey for Everon, IMO.

You are probably right. The old FN FAL is still an excellent rifle (especially
with the SUIT sight fitted). The FN MAG machine gun is so good that
the yanks dumped their M60 in favour of it! And the Bren is so comfortable
to fire that even the worst shots can get good groups with it, firing off
the bipod. The only thing the Everon "army" infantry are deficient in is
launched grenades which will put them at a disadvantage if going up
against modern armies equipped with under-barrel launchers (believe me
it does!). You might want to give them rifle launched grenades (like the
old British "Energa") to partly redress the balance. The Malvinas mod
has weapons similar to these in their inventory. In accordance with
1980's British practice I give an infantry section about six 66mm LAWs
(with one round each only) in addition to the Carl Gustav (the reloadable
version provided with the Swedish Forces Project pack), so they are quite
capable against light armour.