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Re: [OFP] [SP] [RESISTANCE] Everon Vice
« Reply #45 on: 03 Dec 2010, 02:18:23 »
New version is up! See EDIT #4 in the first post for exact changes. :)
Let's hope I got rid of any major problems... :)

@Walter_e_Kurtz: Thanks for pointing out these issues!

@Boxer: Unfortunately it is a known issue of the addon, but I'd rather not search for another van only because of that. Though I agree, they definitely can be a pain in the neck when it comes to fire an RPG/LAW from their cover...

@Inconsistend approach to profanity: Didn't even notice that. Thanks for pointing to it, but I'd rather not pbo the campaign again and make another full impact testing solely because of one set of mission subtitles.

@Mission Plan Update: This should be fixed and be more straightforward in 1.6.

@High Noon Briefing: Same as above. They were taken off-guard, by the way. :)

The Missing weaponpack bug is also fixed methinks, I placed a pilot with a revolver on every map far from the mission area. This fixed the issue when I played through the campaign, I hope you also won't encounter with it again.

Again, thanks for the feedback! :)

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« Reply #46 on: 20 Dec 2010, 14:52:44 »
Could you check again the links? The link does not load campaign and throws error. :good:

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« Reply #47 on: 22 Dec 2010, 11:54:35 »
...

I was about to do a profanity-filled rant on FileFront, but decided to calm down. Okay, the campaign will be uploaded early January as I won't be anywhere near my home computer until that time...

Thanks for the heads-up, Aldo! ;)

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« Reply #48 on: 02 Jan 2011, 20:34:34 »
Happy New Year, everyone! :)

The link is fixed, the campaign archive can be reached here. First post of the topic was also update accordingly. ;)

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« Reply #49 on: 26 Jan 2011, 00:08:06 »
Hi man, I only heard good things from this campaign and now i´m one of them.The campaign is absolutely incredible, the missions and the plots are great, i´ll make the advanced comments later. i got a problem with something at the last mission after Saint Pierre, i get an error that talks something about an addon of a DMX_policie_brdm.

1)The introduction:
Great camera angles and the voices and dialogs made it´s job well, there´s nothing more enjoyable than seeing a film while you play ofp :D

2)The First was great, but i agree with the pilot of the plane, this guy is quite nuts, and i laughed at moments because of the dialogs and radio chats. I got killed a bunch of times but i managed to end it.
I kill the guy near the church and advance about 50-70 metres. Then i see a bunch of guys and resistance soldiers going out the trees and a jeep. So i toggle to my Ak47 and hide in a bush. I start killing the soldiers and later i approach to the small building in the road and i see 3 resistance budies staying prone but very alert, i manage to kill them and hide behind the UAZG, i heal myself and move to left, suddenly i get killed by a sniper. New try i do the same but now i get killed by a machinegunner that was hiding behind a bush, later, after insulting both the machinegunner and the sniper, i kill them. I move through the bushes and see a machinegun that was very well placed as the tree makes it difficult to be seen. i kill him and i see 2 guys moving from the air field near the AA guns, one of them was able to hit me in the legs but i could eliminate them.
I get rid of the resistance guys and destroy the AA guns. Nice day to begin holidays!! :D

3)In the second video i see the three guys in desert island and i start laughing when the 3 dudes start singing, i´m still thinkin why they start singing :dunno:

4)SHOPPING:I have to say that this is one of the missions that i enjoyed most. The first dialogs are great as the fight in the city, but i noticed something wuite weird, nobody fires a the "black smuggler" as player calls him. at the beginning they only shoot at the police car.
I´m studying how to place weapons over thing and this mission helped alot in that, it´s nice to see missions that use special things that make them unique and different.
I go to the weapon stash in the back of the pub and pick up an AK47, i help the smuggler to kill the soldiers and some reinforcements arrive i eliminate the ones from the north but the ones that eject from the chopper are dead because they hit the floor too fast :dunno:.
Now i move to the south and a resistance soldier hits me 2 times before i see him and kill him. hurt i manage to take 2 other guys and the mission ends. As i said before and i repeat, dialogs take an important role in the mission.

5)The mission in the woods, is in my opinion one of the most difficult. The resistance clothes really help them with camouflage and also the go prone as soon as the detect you, that made things only harder, i got killed about 5 times :dry: before i receive the message that bravo is ambushed, when i start running i hear alot of gun fire that added more inmersion to the situation. Then i receive a message that says that the terrorists are trying to scape and when i arrive i can´t eliminate the chopper. I felt a little frustrated but it seems that i was the original plan to let the Mi-17 scape.

6)In the next mission you have to make your way to free a prisoner in a base. I started laughing when the guard said that the documents where 2 years old and they were to move the prisoner to the same prison.
Nice improvement when the gun get jammed, all the guards were easy to take outand my partner was quite fool as he didn´t do almost anything. when i see the prisoner the dialog begins. Later the siren sounds start again but this were even less effective thatn the guards as i satyed prone with an AK 47 and started killing all of them whle they were on the car, I found only one big bug, the mission doesn´t end as the chopper stays flying at the same position all the time ???, i tryied 3 times but always the same chopper at the same place, maybe i forgot to kill someone or someone scaped.

7)The next mission where you have to stop a military convoy everything goes fine until the chopper appears and the the mision ends ??? ??? ???. I thought something was wrong so i gave another try now i have to take down the chopper, i fire 9 RPGs until i hit it (I think i must practice that)

8)The mission in the resort was also difficult as the sniper doesn´t stop looking for you. I run like a mad man to the truck (i don´t know if this was our idea) and pick up the Hunting rifle. i kill thge sniper and i have to call an ambulance, i go to the green car an it says it´s completely locked but i can get in, a little weird. i call 911 and some guys appear, i kill one of them and take his AK47 and i´m able to eliminate the rest, then the helicopter appears and the smuggler runs to the woods leaving me alone, ididn´t know that there were also black chickens :dry:

9) i manage to eliminate the guy at the right of the chopper and i realise that the guy was the gunner and not the pilot :dry: then after 3 minutes i kill him and the chopper falls into the woods. Some police cars appear but nothing happens again it doesn´t end like the prison mission, so i try something completely and absolutely different, and start killing all the cops and drivers and then the front car moves to the bodies of my friends and then it finishes :dunno: :dunno: ??? ???


Now the second part:

10) In the mission where you have to sweep regina is very difficult, in my first attempt i try to go in front of both groups but suddenly... BOOM! and my brains fly to Malden. In the second attempt i go to the left making my way to the bushes located in the farmland, from there i´m able to take down almos 20 soldiers, but now the problem are the tanks, as my tanks an friendlies were completely uneffective. i run to a T55 wreck and go prone. Then i move to a RPG soldier, take it and blow a T72 and a Bmp. Then i move very carefully into the town, i always thought that everything was secure but nothing stays the same. I kill 5 guys into the village until i find Wolf.

11) I admire the campaigns and missions that you the same moment from different eyes, it´s amazing as you acn see that Regina was only a distraction used to avoid army while you steal a Gold loaded truck.In this mission, i keep it simple, get closer to the trucks walking and watching everything. as i eliminate the guys, i takke the second truck to the hidden base. In the hill, i receive a message that says  that reinforcements are moving from the north, and now 3 guys join me. I get into the Car in the base and i order my guys to do the same. I go down the hill and order my guys to tae cover. Then 5 minutes later, a little group arrives in 2 truck, with a RPG i take down the second truck and my folks do the same with the other truck. Then here comes bug, the cops arrive in groups of 3 guys but they took almost 15 game minutes to arrive to my location. as i eliminate the last cop cars the mission ends correctly.

12) HOly god, i´m still in this mission (Saint Pierre), so if i ever complete it i´ll tell you how it did.


BRIEFINGS: Very Consise and easy to understand and read. A good and little description and a PLAN page that explained everything.

OVERVIEW: Gret photos taken will playing, also good effect and borders.

INTROS, OUTROS AND VIDEOS: Good camera angles but some times quite crazy for example when the guys start singing in the middle of the desert.

OVERALL: Difficult mission and great story and plot. Playing different roles in the story is great, i hope that more campaign like this arrive soon.

The only bugs i found JohnBart are those 2 missions that don´t end.

P.D.: Add a video were the Karoly goes into a psichiatric hospital for the rest of his life (Admit it, this guy i completely nuts)
« Last Edit: 26 Jan 2011, 17:09:48 by OFP_f3d3 »
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Re: [OFP] [SP] [RESISTANCE] Everon Vice
« Reply #50 on: 01 Feb 2011, 10:24:57 »
Hey OFP_f3d3, thanks for your detailed response! :)

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i got a problem with something at the last mission after Saint Pierre, i get an error that talks something about an addon of a DMX_policie_brdm.
Weird. Last time I played through the campaign, there were no "missing addon" errors. Moreover, the police BRDM is part of the police vehicles pack so if they appear without any problem in the credits mission, why does the BRDM not? Will take a look at it.

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3)In the second video i see the three guys in desert island and i start laughing when the 3 dudes start singing, i´m still thinkin why they start singing
Because they're also nuts, like the protagonist. :D
OK, so here it goes: I originally planned more music segments in the campaign besides the opening and ending rap to deepen the fun factor and the airy nature of the story. E.g. there would have been a segment with the "rap guy" right after Shopping too, when Hades and Fenyvesi escape from the anarchist reinforcements. Eventually, I left most of them out because it would take a hell of a lot of time to edit them, but would serve no real function whatsoever. The Antagonist Rap however stayed, as I concluded that it would be a really unusual way to introduce the bad guys of the story.

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i noticed something wuite weird, nobody fires a the "black smuggler" as player calls him. at the beginning they only shoot at the police car.
Since OpFlash does not have the allowdamage command (and the separatists are horrible when it comes to aim :D), I decided to achieve the "action movie"-feeling by having them targeting a couple of invisible targets and the police car. It looks good, and also keeps alive a mission-critical person.
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the ones that eject from the chopper are dead because they hit the floor too fast.
No matter how high I set FlyInHeight, the chopper keeps flying in the same height. Anyway, most of them survives parachuting (not to mention that it looks alright in a comical campaign :)).

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when i arrive i can´t eliminate the chopper. I felt a little frustrated but it seems that i was the original plan to let the Mi-17 scape.
Yes, if everything works as I planned, you cannot stop the chopper. They are meant to escape.

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I found only one big bug, the mission doesn´t end as the chopper stays flying at the same position all the time , i tryied 3 times but always the same chopper at the same place, maybe i forgot to kill someone or someone scaped.
I truly am amazed. I've never encountered this error in this mission. In fact, the end trigger is as easy as possible in OFP: the chopper takes off when every enemy is defeated, while the mission ends when the chopper arrives above the prison.

Do you receive the "Mission Completed!" title when the Mi-17 arrives?

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The next mission where you have to stop a military convoy everything goes fine until the chopper appears and the the mission ends   . I thought something was wrong so i gave another try now i have to take down the chopper, i fire 9 RPGs until i hit it (I think i must practice that)
Again, could you tell me exactly how did the mission end? Did the debriefing appear before the in-game cutscene of the helicopter or after it? Did you wait some time with the chopper flying above you before it ended, or did it finish as soon as the Mi-2 arrived? I never experienced such a bug.

As for the RPG: Check the ammunition trucks, you'll find a Strela in one of them. Alternatively, why don't you use a PK? :)

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i go to the green car an it says it´s completely locked but i can get in, a little weird.
Not exactly. The hero remarks that all the building doors are closed, but there is also a telephone in the car. ;)

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Some police cars appear but nothing happens again it doesn´t end like the prison mission, so i try something completely and absolutely different, and start killing all the cops and drivers and then the front car moves to the bodies of my friends and then it finishes.
Again, I am clueless. The end trigger is really-really simple, the mission should finish as soon as the first police BRDM reaches the vicinity of the buildings next to the road (where the green Skoda stays).

How far did they stop from those buildings? Did you block their path? I can tweak the end trigger, but apart from that, I really have no idea why it doesn't work at you.

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Then here comes bug, the cops arrive in groups of 3 guys but they took almost 15 game minutes to arrive to my location. as i eliminate the last cop cars the mission ends correctly.
The reinforcements consist of two waves, the first being a police convoy the second a military contingent. I never had such a problem with them. In fact, every time I played that mission, I had to be really fast in getting out the car and then sending everyone in the city to take cover.

Could you elaborate on this bug a bit more? Do the reinforcements arrive in vehicles, or on foot? How much of them arrive at once? I don't think I can do anything about this (lest I can reproduce it somehow), but I'll see to it of course.

Again, thank you for your detailed feedback, and I'm really happy that you enjoyed the campaign, despite the flaws it has. :)

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P.D.: Add a video were the Karoly goes into a psichiatric hospital for the rest of his life (Admit it, this guy i completely nuts)
LOL. :D

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Re: [OFP] [SP] [RESISTANCE] Everon Vice
« Reply #51 on: 04 Apr 2011, 23:59:35 »
Hey everyone,

Finally I could allocate the time this weekend to give the campaign two more playthroughs on two different PCs. I was trying to check whether I'd be able to reproduce f3d3's bugs, but I was unsuccessful in doing so.

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i got a problem with something at the last mission after Saint Pierre, i get an error that talks something about an addon of a DMX_policie_brdm.
Did not receive it on the PCs I ran the campaign. I checked the mission.sqm file, but the addonlist seems OK. I absolutely have no idea what causes the problem at you.

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I found only one big bug, the mission doesn´t end as the chopper stays flying at the same position all the time , i tryied 3 times but always the same chopper at the same place, maybe i forgot to kill someone or someone scaped.
Now that's an amazing one. The mission end trigger is the most basic one possible, so I have no idea where it goes awry. As soon as the enemies are neutralized in the prison area, the chopper takes off. As soon as it is located nearby the prison, the mission ends. I've worked quite a couple of years on this campaign but never ran into such an error. Didn't run into it this time either.

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The next mission where you have to stop a military convoy everything goes fine until the chopper appears and the the mission ends
Could not reproduce it, but checked the ending conditions. It is again relatively simple: a Vehicle not present condition in a 2x2 km area. Under these circumstances, you can receive a premature mission ending only if
a.) you destroy or immobilize the vital supply trucks.
b.) the chopper leaves its area of operation for some reason, which I don't know why it would do. It must be big enough for it.

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Some police cars appear but nothing happens again it doesn´t end like the prison mission, so i try something completely and absolutely different, and start killing all the cops and drivers and then the front car moves to the bodies of my friends and then it finishes.
I tried what happens if I intentionally block the first BRDM of the police convoy. It bypassed me and continued its way, always ending the mission. I also don't know why would the BRDM stop before his Present trigger which would end the mission - its waypoint is located way inside the (relatively long) trigger. Again, I'm clueless and have absolutely no idea how to prevent such an event.

That said, the problem might be caused by additional mods and/or addons, especially replacement packs that use vehicles which behave differently than the vanilla units.

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Then here comes bug, the cops arrive in groups of 3 guys but they took almost 15 game minutes to arrive to my location. as i eliminate the last cop cars the mission ends correctly.
Couldn't reproduce it during my playthroughs. I don't even know why do they slow down. The editing is simple, really: the police and military convoy moves to a road waypoint during the in-game cutscene (when the radio chatter is going on about the reinforcements), then they continue to the town when the player's reinforcements (the three guys) are detected to be half way back to ensure the player is not "late from the party". The only way the mission can go glitchy is if you leave your buddies behind in the camp because of the trigger condition mentioned above, but I thought that the player would need every help they can get so it makes no sense to leave behind or kill off your buddies there.

Anyway, unless somebody finds a serious issue or can reproduce the bugs above OR can give me detailed feedbacks about them so I can try to prevent them ever happening again, I think the campaign is ready for a review. :)

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« Reply #52 on: 05 Apr 2011, 21:02:30 »
I'll try to test it, I Think I have time to test it and modify my Operation Fidel mission

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Re: [OFP] [SP] [RESISTANCE] Everon Vice
« Reply #53 on: 06 Apr 2011, 18:44:59 »
I'll be happy to formally begin the review of this one. Thanks for all your efforts in trying to get things corrected.

The actual review process is far more involved than a standard play testing and so I'm certain I'll be able to reproduce bugs if they exist and be able to provide a step by step fix to correct matters unless, as you say, it has something to do with anything out of the editor's control.
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« Reply #54 on: 06 Apr 2011, 22:20:06 »
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The actual review process is far more involved than a standard play testing and so I'm certain I'll be able to reproduce bugs if they exist and be able to provide a step by step fix to correct matters unless, as you say, it has something to do with anything out of the editor's control.
I appreciate your continuing help and support. Thank you! :)

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I'll try to test it, I Think I have time to test it and modify my Operation Fidel mission.
Thank you, and again, thanks everyone who helped me fixing as many things I could. :)

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« Reply #55 on: 29 Apr 2011, 18:42:26 »
I've tested this campaign quite well and have opened it up to view all of the internal files. I have not encountered any of the bugs that OFP_f3d3 has, but I have encountered a potential problem area in the Regina mission. Since it seems to unfold quite randomly, there are times when the enemy armor will remain in the city, damaged but not destroyed and the friendly armor fail to recognize them. Since the player does not have the ability to pick up shoulder launched weapons, I would ask that you insert some sort of safety for this. Otherwise, the mission could cease to move forward until the friendly armor recognize and eliminate the damaged armor. The best way to remedy this would be to have the player decked out in police uniform again so that he is able to pick up any weapon.

 

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Re: [OFP] [SP] [RESISTANCE] Everon Vice [REVIEW PENDING]
« Reply #56 on: 02 May 2011, 00:53:47 »
Thank you! :)

Now, as far as I know, the police uniform does not solve the problem, because I remember putting the character into one, and he couldn't use RPGs even in a riot outfit. The solution might be to put the player character into an East uniform, which however means that the hero should appear in that uniform in all subsequent missions. I'll figure out which one works soon! :)

I'll also tweak the chopper not present trigger in the convoy ambush mission (increase its diameter just to be on the safe side) and tweak the long stand-off cutscene too (the one after getting the gold trucks), because the last time I played it, one of the smugglers shot the Jackal on the leg, meaning that he had to crawl to the Lada to get going... :D

Thanks again for the extensive review, I'll keep you posted! :)

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Re: [OFP] [SP] [RESISTANCE] Everon Vice [REVIEW PENDING]
« Reply #57 on: 02 May 2011, 02:38:21 »
Keeping the main character in civy clothing is fine.
It seems like some of the armor stops outside of the city and they may not spot resistance armor if it stops on the other side of the buildings. If you just had that armor patrol to the other side of town, there may never be a problem. You could also execute a safety check to see if all friendly armor is damage beyond fighting capabilities and if so, kill off the remaining resistance armor for example...
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If (getdammage easttank1 > .4) && (getdammage easttank2 > .4) Then (resistancetank1 setdammage 1) && (resistancetank2 setdammage 1)

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Another problem area. opflashpoint.org has been down for some time now. That site offers three of your addons that are found no where else on the internet(that I have found anyways). I would ask that if you have these addons complete with a Readme, that you submit them to OFPEC Addons forums for review and upload.

  • Intruders police cessna and police skoda
  • Mehanics Peugot Boxer
  • AKM74's ZU23 static AA

I might see problems with the peugot boxer not being adequate enough to upload to our site, since it's geometry lod is larger than it should be. BUT, I can't speak for our Addon depot staff. They may judge things differently, so it's worth a try. Here is the submission standard over there. Please read and follow it.

If the addons are not accepted, you may have to upload them somewhere else such as Gamepark(if they'll accept them from you and not the author)

If all else fails, and this is my very personal opinion if it were my own project, I would consider swapping those models for models similar to it.
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Re: [OFP] [SP] [RESISTANCE] Everon Vice [REVIEW PENDING]
« Reply #58 on: 02 May 2011, 10:01:08 »
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If you just had that armor patrol to the other side of town, there may never be a problem. You could also execute a safety check to see if all friendly armor is damage beyond fighting capabilities and if so, kill off the remaining resistance armor for example...
Great idea! Thanks!

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Another problem area. opflashpoint.org has been down for some time now. That site offers three of your addons that are found no where else on the internet(that I have found anyways). I would ask that if you have these addons complete with a Readme, that you submit them to OFPEC Addons forums for review and upload.
OK, I'll see to it! :)

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Re: [OFP] [SP] [RESISTANCE] Everon Vice [REVIEW PENDING]
« Reply #59 on: 02 May 2011, 12:07:59 »
I'd be inclined to throw a piece of raw meat studded with tranquilisers to the guard-dogs at the Addons Depot. They might be persuaded to host the addon pack in its entireity, though it should really contain the readmes.

Additionally, it might be possible to edit the Boxer model. According to this thread it may be free to modify:
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Some examples of "Permission Free" addons that I know of are: ...
* Mehanic's vehicles