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Offline prodetar2

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1500 on: 27 May 2007, 15:06:34 »
Hey people :) i'm back :D

ok i started over with the missions once again but this time fully concetrating on Stamenov!

im already far in the mission but to let you know what i did before:

done all the objectives concerning civies. (except larche)
went to la trinite to grab some hk's "for silent raids". i armed my men with the hks and bizons.

so this time i contrated on Stamenov like i said... i first made sure id have enough rockets to take out light tanks... (heavy tanks too but takes more rockets)
so i went on with my new aquired weapons and decided to take out a few other groups for more missiles :D so i did.

then i took out a few tanks, a t72, 2 vulcans, a bradly (convoy), 2 bmp's, 2 ABRAMS (ohyea), took out the hind with my RPG, then i went on to chapoi (where i am now)... my truck ran out of gas that moment so i was killed instantly... ok restart this time stop before the small fuel base... but when i got closer to a group they suddenly went into combat stance and went prone. i thought damn they saw me! They didnt :D Andropovs troops raged into Chapoi wow! boom everywhere! soldiers dieing all around... tanks comming from almost every direction! "yikes" (ducks for cover).

i waited until i could take out a few soldiers running to the fuel base (wich i own now)
i had to wait in a bush cuze i heared a abrams coming... then when it was right in front of me i noticed its flag... Andropov.. it drove back to Chapoi. Took out the t72 in its squad wich was heavily dammaged. then another vulcan... also destroyed... while i was busy aquireing  more rockets a group of stamenovas army attacked  be from behind... luckely i just ducked to place a rocket into the truck "poing" just above me! wow!! quoting saving private ryan: "You lucky bastard" heh took out the group... grabbed some more rockets but then my game started to get unplayable so i stopped playing... this is where i am now...

gonna go after Stamenov now i think hehe. wish me luck!
(ohyea im not sure how i know it but i heared someone say that when the group is in the truck and you drive on that the people in the back started talking.. (had heared nothing yet)

so again wish me luck :D

EDIT: ok i got Stamenov and his entire army down! and the best of that... I NOW HAVE 4 MAIN BATTLE TANKS!!!!!! 2abrams 2 t80 :D

i decided to go after andropov (logical) and mand all tanks... but because 2 of my group are dead im in the tank all alone  :weeping: and the other tanks have 2 crew.

im now at andropovs base and tried to destroy it but there are alot of anti tank and 2 t72's out there so im getting killed each time >:( anyone have any advice for me so i can win without casualties?
« Last Edit: 27 May 2007, 17:44:24 by prodetar2 »
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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1501 on: 27 May 2007, 17:51:53 »
Lol THobson, have you forggoten me, I already know these things but I'm roleplaying  :P

Anywho I think I have a good chance of escape, the house is very good cover, I can pick off guys at ease, the only problem is getting out before the Armor comes down on me.

P.S. Just read your reply, my adivce is get full crew on as many tanks as you can, then when you get damaged, pull back, heal, and use the other tanks.
« Last Edit: 27 May 2007, 17:56:21 by OAM »

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1502 on: 28 May 2007, 01:12:12 »
P.S. Just read your reply, my adivce is get full crew on as many tanks as you can, then when you get damaged, pull back, heal, and use the other tanks.

good idea, i like it :) that i didnt come up with that myself :D ill see if itll work. (and why take other tanks all you need is a repair truck :D)
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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1503 on: 28 May 2007, 03:01:45 »
Well I assumed you didn't get one.  My attempts usualy are futile as I try to take a repair truck from an enemy base not a destroyed one  :yes: Not near as much fun as having one of your guys steal a fuel or ammo truck and fly through an occupied base, a little sucide bomb  :yes:

Anywho, an update on my progress.  I popped about four more, the remain jeeps, with just drivers came around the back of my house (IE North, open space, see my previous map)  Get two of em.  Make a run out of town down the paved road.  The last jeep drives up and I steal it, manage to get out  of town and back to base in it.

Mission Summary:

Opeartion One: Vigny/Lodge - Success

My Forces: Me - Causalties (0)
North Forces: N/A
South Forces: 7 confirmed - causalties (7)
Loot: M16 (5 ammo)
        Torkarev

Note:  Additional Loot lost in wreck

Operation Two: Civilian Pickup - Failure

My Forces: 2, civilians+escort - Casualties (civilians+escort)
Enemy Forces (Side indeterminate): 12 confirmed - Casualties (0)
                                                 4 Jeep mgs
Loot: N/A

Operation Three: Camp Moving - Partial Success

My Forces: 5 - causalties (0)
North Forces: N/A
South Forces: N/A
Loot:N/A

Note:  Final Base Location due to wreck

Operation Four:  Goisse - Success

My Forces: Me - Causalties (0)
North Forces: 36 estimated - Casualties (27 estimated)
                   4 jeeps mgs                    (4 Jeep mgs (one captured, two uncrewed, one damaged))
South Forces: N/A
Loot:  One Jeep MG
         LAW (ammo ?)
         (switched M16 for AK74)

Hope you enjoy that nice summary thing
« Last Edit: 28 May 2007, 03:12:25 by OAM »

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1504 on: 28 May 2007, 11:05:11 »
OAM:  No I had not forgotten you, I just could not remember how far you got the previous time.  It is good that you can play it in different ways ignoring what you are supposed not to know.  I always seem to take a very similar line every time.  Your summary is interesting too.  Breaking the whole thing up into separate Operations is what I do as well.  I have not specifically get the units in the truck to speak - excepty when the first lot of civis get in the truck, but one beta tester did comment that when watching them in the back of an open truck they did seem to interact with each other - that is OFP not me.

Prodetar2:  Welcome back.  I find both bases a bit difficult.  With Chapoi I usually sneak in at night and place a few mines (standard anti-armour) plus a scattering of AP mines and satchel charges.  I take out Stamenov and then run like hell and then come back with my whole team.  The airbase is also tricky even when you are in armour for the reasons you have described.   Still at least the snpiers can't get you that way.  One tactic I have tried with some success is to have some heavy tanks - Abrams for preference - in line a breast with a crewed Vulcan a few yards behind.  The tanks take a round from an AT soldier and the Vulcan then makes sure he doesn't get another shot in.  You do have to protect the Vulcan carfully, but it is worth it - they can do amazing damage at long range.  Once I get closer to the airfield - it is usually in the early hours of the morning so my NVGs give a great advantage.  I put crewed tanks on the hill overlooking the base from the west with a crewed Vulcan behind, then I crawl around the base spotting soldiers for the Vulcan to take out.  Not good if there are any choppers or armour around though.  Basically there are many different ways to do it, there is no 'right' way, there are many 'wrong' ways though, mostly involving not being careful.

By the way I like the "(except larche)".  It tells me so much about what you have done what you know without giving too much away.
« Last Edit: 28 May 2007, 11:06:48 by THobson »

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1505 on: 28 May 2007, 14:10:54 »
good to know :)

havent played since my last post but another tactic for those who also have tanks like me :D

grab everyone in your team (i mean the tanks) then keep letting them drive up a few meters ervytime they spot a few more soldiers and tanks/other vehicles then when  combining it with OAM's tactic and a repair truck it shouldt be a problem. ill see if it works. good thing theres a repair truck in la trinite. to bad its so far away from the airfield... but hey good rally point :D

and like i said. :) Stamenov is out of the way and so is his army :D stupid actually... they had about 3 main battle tanks left thern they get out of it drop their guns and run away... now my thought was... Where will they go? drown themselves trying to flee from me :P
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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1506 on: 28 May 2007, 18:21:01 »
I created the summary cause I think it embodies what I like about this mission that is almost unique to any game I've ever played.  Every enemy I kill is one less that will come back to haunt me later.

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1507 on: 29 May 2007, 20:05:53 »
ok little update on my progress.

succesfully attacked andropov i used a vantage point above the airfield and while i was getting ready to shoot i noticed 2 legs right next to me in the same bush! a sniper was next to me! i was like "LOL" so i killed him and took his rifle then started shooting the other soldiers till my gun ran out of ammo. grabbed my hk back and killed some more snipers who were sneaking up on me. then got a LAW from a soldier i shot after the snipers. (already had LAW but 2 more rockets are usefull) ok so i decided to take out the 2 t72's. only needed 1 try :D then got into my t80 and reloaded HEAT. i had a clear shot at where andropov was hiding poof with the heat and bye bye andropov and his bodyguards. then killed some AT soldiers wich attacked me (had to reload couple of times) then with full speed into their base while commanding my other tanks to do the same! after driving around killing more soldiers every minute a t80 and vulcan and bradly come rolling in i destroyed the t80 and bradly while the other took care of the vulcan. though i lost my medic and 1 tank, im still driving around killing soldiers running to the airfield.

i also left the airfield after some moments of silence to attack the small fuel base above the airfield. only soldiers though so it was pretty easy :) the AI seem to leave behind the machinegunners and take the rocketlaunchers.

after taking over Larche (doing the obj aswell), saint louis and goisse wich were all empty :S i decided to go to vigny... (closest by and easyer to get to) i send my other 2 tanks to la pessagne and took the russian (cant remember name) down the slope to the boat in search for a heli. then i heared a hind lifting off the moment im in the boat. but i already destroyed 2 hinds... i thought there were only 2? and 2 cobras? so after flying itsself into the mountain i had to load the mission cuze when i got out of my tank i suddenly died by a vulcan cannon i dont know what fired the shot cuze i didnt get to see who did it. so this time im back in the t80 down the slope so i cant get back up! (ill have to leave my t80 behind)...

killed a group of AT soldiers back at the airport and finsihed the mission!!!

i say WOW to the ending!  :clap: :clap: :clap:

I WANT MORE!! to bad you wont make any missions like this one :)

i salute to you, thobson thnx for this awesome mission and experience :D
« Last Edit: 30 May 2007, 17:33:41 by prodetar2 »
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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1508 on: 31 May 2007, 10:03:39 »
So you finished it,  well done.  Poor old Sergei everyone seems to forget his name.  Such an important guy too.  He put you on the trail to Larche remember.  By the way did you go back to Dourdan after Larche?

Thanks also for the kind comments.  Indeed no more missions from me I'm afraid.  This was to be the mission that I used to teach myself how to do it, but it rather grew in the making.

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1509 on: 31 May 2007, 14:08:19 »
yep i did go back to dourdan.

but i wouldve liked to see how its has ended up with them you know? an outro on what they will do to the remaining soldiers and how they rebuild Malden :)
offcourse this way you can let your fantasy get to work with it :)

also in ther end when you see the team you also see yourself laughing (alexi) he laughs real scary :S it freaked me out lol
« Last Edit: 31 May 2007, 14:11:18 by prodetar2 »
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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1510 on: 01 Jun 2007, 09:07:35 »
Phew, I finally wrapped this baby up.

What an amazing job you've done here, THobson. This is really groundbreaking stuff. Heh, now get cracking on making an ArmA campaign to replace the awful SP game.  :cool2:

Anyway, I don't think I enjoyed the mission as much as I could have, but that's really more my fault. I sort of stumbled my way through, driving here and there at leisure and shooting at whatever I found. I attacked the Chapoi base first, which was probably a mistake. Andropov's seemed easier, but that might have had something to do with the Abrams I had at that point. Anyway, Chapoi was a real tough nut to crack, especially with all those machine gunners on the perimeter. Even with a team full of snipers, it was almost impossible to pick them off before one would spot me and blast my team away from 1000m away. To be honest, I don't even recall how I managed to kill Stemenov. There was just a lot of saving and loading.

I'm sort of wondering what the ideal "process" is supposed to be. I just sort of meandered about and attacked Chapoi when I felt like it. I stole a bunch of hi-grade weapons from La Trinite right off the bat, so I was armed to the teeth from the get-go. I never managed to get any armor but the one uncrewed M1A1 I picked up from Chapoi, though. I was never quite aware of how many troops either side had left at their disposal. Also, I never checked any of the towns except the frontline towns marked on the map. Are the others occupied as well? I assumed they would have some markings if they were.
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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1511 on: 02 Jun 2007, 00:20:22 »
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What an amazing job you've done here, THobson. This is really groundbreaking stuff. Heh, now get cracking on making an ArmA campaign to replace the awful SP game.

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1512 on: 02 Jun 2007, 11:35:11 »
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I'm sort of wondering what the ideal "process" is supposed to be.
Well there is no ideal - though having said that I always play it the same way so I suppose there must be.  You got some weapons from La Trinite, but did you notice that the type of weapons you get there depends on which convoy had last visited the place?

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Also, I never checked any of the towns except the frontline towns marked on the map. Are the others occupied as well? I assumed they would have some markings if they were.
You were wrong to make this assumption.  There are units in other towns as indeed there would be in real life, but later on they return to their own base to help protect it so you didn't miss them.

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I don't think I enjoyed the mission as much as I could have, but that's really more my fault. I sort of stumbled my way through, driving here and there at leisure and shooting at whatever I found.
That is a perfectly acceptable way to do this mission.  One comment I would make though is that shooting at everything you see is a normal way to play opf, in this mission observing and understanding before you start shooting can pay dividends.  If you explore you will find more, if you reorganise your team they talk to you, and what they tell you changes during the mission.  One of the things one of them tells you will open up a whole new story line.  But it doesn't matter if that was missed, you cleared the island and made it safe for the civilians, the fact that other stories were playing out at the same time is not important.  If you want to know if you missed anything:
- did you find two living resistance medics?
- and one dead one?
- did you get both rifles and explosives from La Trinite and do you know why?
- can you describe the fate of the two women captured in Houdan?
- did you find the pregant woman?  What became of her? What became of her parents?
- in the intro you see a woman being led to a barn,  Did you find her and the barn?
- etc. there are lots more.

It doesn't matter if the answer to all of these is no/don't know.  Some players spot them all, some don't.  There is one thing I have put in the mission that no one has ever reported seeing.  It may be some have seen it/them and have not mentioned it, but that doesn't matter.  The intent was to create a living island where lots of things were going on at the same time.  Having said that I have recently played Oblivion and what they have done with their world makes my attempts here seem feeble in comparison.

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now get cracking on making an ArmA campaign to replace the awful SP game.
If by that you mean you are going to build one you have my best wishes.  If you mean you want to play one, then have to admit I have not played Perpetua by Bardosy, but sometime ago I did beta test one of his missions and I was quite impressed.

« Last Edit: 02 Jun 2007, 11:37:32 by THobson »

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1513 on: 02 Jun 2007, 23:53:18 »
Let me just say if you do the Houdan quest, the barn is hard to miss, its a nice waypoint

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Re: Abandoned Armies by THobson
« Reply #1514 on: 03 Jun 2007, 12:15:56 »
Well actually I go into Houdan from the other side,  it's much safer that way. :D