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Offline Noon416

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ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« on: 06 Oct 2004, 21:45:21 »
OFPEC has announced a new donation run - full details in this news post.   The funds will be used to reopen the much-missed Addons Depot.   Please click the Donate button at the bottom of this page if you would like to help to bring back the Addons Depot.

Feel free to reply to this post with questions or comments.

The last donation run was just over a year ago and was a complete success.  



If you are unable to contribute financially to OFPEC, but would like to put something back, there are lots of ways you can help:-

 
  • submit news stories:  anything you see around the OFP community that you think might go on our homepage

  • answer (and post!) questions in the forum

  • report off topic posts to the mods (click on the report button on the post)
  • when appropriate, direct people from other OFP websites to OFPEC
  • beta test missions or scripts or addons

  • add Comments on resources, whether in the Editors Depot or the Missions Depot.  This is particularly helpful on Pending items, which have not yet been checked by staff

  • submit a script, tool, tutorial or function

  • submit a mission (or addon, when the depot reopens)

  • check out the Recruitment Depot and help somebody

  • hang out in #ofpec chat and and answer questions there[/i]



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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #1 on: 07 Oct 2004, 16:47:12 »
For details of why we don't have advertising, subscriptions, membership fees and other forms of income, see this thread.
« Last Edit: 09 Oct 2004, 06:32:28 by Noon416 »
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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #2 on: 07 Oct 2004, 17:36:59 »
Say I've got six big ones on my desk just waiting to be donated to a good cause, but I didn't have a credit card, or a banking/ATM card with visa or mastercard in it.
What can I do to get my money help OFPEC be complete?
Not all is lost.

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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #3 on: 09 Oct 2004, 01:14:23 »
I have one groan and a couple of suggestions...

You guys can not expect everyone to beleive that the usage level just suddenly jumped up and bit you in the ass, you should have been aware of the usage level for quite some time, so rather than make a request while it was still open you decide to shut the add-on section, which basically means you are blackmailing everyone into making a donation to get it back open again, I know I for one do not bow that that kind of pressure  >:(

As as for the bullshit you gave about the section being offline for updating, and would be back at a certain date, you just lied through your teeth, you knew then it would not be back unless you secured some form of funding, so why make a bullshit post!

If you want this to work your solution is to charge for uploading and downloading from OFPEC.

uploading cost users say $5 this gives them a membership to upload and download for 12 months.

Downloading will cost $10 a year, this will allow a user to download from OFPEC for 12 months.

Those contributing to the community get a 50% discount as lets face it without them your add-on section would not be there, and anyone who says they can not afford the $5 or $10 charge is talking out of their ass, without any form of sponsorship how are groups like you surposed to continue to give the service they provide.

There would have to be open information about the accounts received and the accounts spent if you want people to believe the money they are donating is going towards the running costs of the site, this would also include the perks/payments to those that run the site (I dont think anyone would begrudge the site admins their cut of the dues for their time and effort) but it would have to be completly open.

There would need to be a some form of terms and conditions for membership, and guarentees from OFPEC that a members access would be guarenteed (subject to network, host issues) for their membership term, this would be achived by OFPEC paying for the first 12 months rental, then recoup the charges back from the membership fees, this will display to potential members that you are trying to be as honest and above board as you can, the 1st years membership should also be make it possible for OFPEC to pay 12 months hosting costs in advance after the 1st year, this would guarentee the members still have access to the site and downloads even if you guys at some time decide you cant continue with the service any longer.

Also from the fees could be prizes for competions for best add-on (voted by members) best mod (voted by members) best screen shot (voted by members) per month or quarter then the members have the oppertunity of getting something back worth more than their membership fee's.

At a poit you could make all old downloads freely available to none members, all new downloads are restricted to the members area for say 3 - 8 weeks, may also require assurences from the maker that they do not make the add-on or whatever available from other sites untill that time has past (these could be offered free membership for this guarentee).

Turn your hobby into a business, and get it to pay for itself!

fuckit I may just do this myself  ;)

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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #4 on: 09 Oct 2004, 02:11:07 »
Naw...no need to make this great site a membership-only site. Bad idea. We'll need just a few nutty guys like me who donate a few $ or € and the addon part will be up and running for everyone.  :)

OFPEC will be available for everyone and not just membership.  :)

To all who keeps this site up to date and to all users who write those wonderfull scripts and make those excellent addons: Thumbs up! Great work and thank you!  :)

Cheers!  8)

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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #5 on: 09 Oct 2004, 03:16:35 »
Fubby, I gotta disagree, OFPEC has not been blackmailing, just saying if you want the addon depot up for your use, we need some more mula to grab some servers. And I'm sure every part of OFPEC gets streamlined or updated from time to time, like defragging a com, it needs to be done. They didn't lie, they are doin this for free on their own time for us. A membership would put off new ppl even though this game is 3 or 4 years old now. lol :P

Anyways, this stuff happens and not having ads is a good thing. Bah I'll shut up now. Got other stuff to do. :P


edit: soz wicked2, put your name in when I forgot who made the second post.... ::)
cheers :)
« Last Edit: 09 Oct 2004, 03:25:51 by GuiltyRoachKillar »

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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #6 on: 09 Oct 2004, 03:21:53 »
@ fubby

A quote from Noons post in this thread:

http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=4;action=display;threadid=19910


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The plan we're on with our ISP does not allow us to make money from the site in the form of advertising income, subscription fees, etc etc (donations are the only exception).

I thought that made the situation pretty clear.


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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #7 on: 09 Oct 2004, 04:34:16 »
fubby,

Noone is forcing anyone to do anything. Never have, never will. ::)
Therefore it isn't 'extortion' or 'blackmail' (try reading the dictionary). If you don't want to help OFPEC, then don't. If you want to help us help the community, then feel free to donate however much or little you feel we deserve. Simple as that...

The usage situation (as explained a few times now) was the result of going from an uncapped 10Mbit connection to a cappped 100Mbit connection, as OFPEC was overwhelming the 10Mbit.
The fact that HuBBa has worn that cost all by himself up to this point is testament to the attitude the staff have at OFPEC that we do as much as we can not to burden the community.

Regarding the other 80% of your post:
As HuBBa and I have explained many, many times now we can't accept any form of income from this site, except donations. If we do so, we would have 5 times the cost to recover and OFPEC's only choice would be to become a subscription-only site. That isn't an option, as it goes against OFPEC's 'For the community' approach.

So we maintain an ad-free, non-subscription based, "don't even have to register to download" site, where we occasionally ask for money, but only when we need it.

If you decide to make a subscription based  "Addon Depot" of your own, feel free to. Quite frankly, we would  encourage it. It would be an ... 'educational' experience for you.

Oh, and btw:
...and anyone who says they can not afford the $5 or $10 charge is talking out of their ass, without any form of sponsorship how are groups like you surposed to continue to give the service they provide.
Have you donated yet? ;)
« Last Edit: 09 Oct 2004, 06:40:43 by Noon416 »
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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #8 on: 09 Oct 2004, 10:15:54 »
Oi! I hate it when I'm ignored.. but for some reason I always am  ;D

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Say I've got six big ones on my desk just waiting to be donated to a good cause, but I didn't have a credit card, or a banking/ATM card with visa or mastercard in it.
What can I do to get my money help OFPEC be complete?

ie. how to donate without a credit card, which I think many of us actually don't have?



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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #9 on: 09 Oct 2004, 11:22:15 »
Fubby...since OFPEC is such a great place, many ppl would probally pay to use the addon depot, but still, remember that there is like...shit loads of other ofp sites that get their money by throwing 100 ads at us when we enter it, and they still get free downloading...so many ppl would go there instead of paying to DL from OFPEC...

Artak...take your money and drive to Hubba, have a party, show Hubba how to drink...finnish style, give him the money, drive home ::) :P

(but really, how can you donate without a creditcard ???)

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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #10 on: 09 Oct 2004, 11:55:44 »
Sorry guys, there really aren't too many other methods to chase up...

  • Cash in the mail - Definitely a no-go
  • Cheque in the mail - That would be alright for a large donation, but the fees for international transfer are pretty huge. IM HuBBa if you still want to chase up this option
  • If we get enough call for it, we would consider opening a Neteller account
So there we have it. If you have any other way you feel like utilising, please IM myself or HuBBa and we'll see what we can accomodate. :)
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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #11 on: 09 Oct 2004, 12:06:20 »
When we hit the problem we didn't know what the solution would be.    If we had, obviously we would have implemented it straightaway.   Several other options (which didn't work out) were examined before going for the donation run.    
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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #12 on: 09 Oct 2004, 12:08:40 »
Western Union?
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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #13 on: 09 Oct 2004, 22:39:06 »
Did you have any luck so far?

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Re:ADDON DEPOT: Donations!
« Reply #14 on: 09 Oct 2004, 23:17:01 »
The donations are slowly rolling in. We'll let you know numbers a little later on. :)

Many heartfelt thanks to those that have contributed so far.  :thumbsup:
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