Mini Grenades

[PunkerSXDX]

I was watching Black Hawk Down Last night, and I saw they had small grenades, that were easily carryed, so they had lots of them, and I was wondering if any one thought to make Grenades that were smaller that fit in a magazine (I mean one Slot could hold 3 or 4). It's been buggin me for a while, since OFP drives me kind of nutz how you can only cary three extra magazines, with six grenades, you should be able to cary a lot more every thing!

[DeadMeatXM2]

It's true, anyone would think that the soldiers in ofp were weinies, cos they can't really carry much.

The SAS regularly carry 2 main weapons, a pistol, truck loads of grenades and at least 600 rounds of ammo, even the regular infantry carry way more magazines and grenades than the ofp infantry.

Is there any way of changing the default amount of ammo the soldiers carry or is it hard coded?

[KTottE]

Do SAS operatives really run around with 21 clips each?
I mean, not that it's heavy, but it takes up space.

[MadGav]

KTottE: No, they won't have 21 clips, they'll have a normal amount of clips in webbing pouches and the rest of the ammo in compact boxes (i.e. a cardboard box with a clips worth of bullets in) in their bergens (iirc

[Messiah]

*laughs to himself*

does any1 here know what the SAS actually use? are you part of the SAS - seeing as they carry whatever they deem nescesarry for the mission, then i doubt you can say what they carry and where they carry it...

just a thought  

oh, and punker - you cant make units carry more ammo (well, u could use a script to replace ammo).... its hard coded into the game, not the units.

[KTottE]

Extremely good point Mezzy. Until someone from SAS steps forward and tells us in detail what he carries on a mission, I won't make any statements as to what they are humping around.

And I still refuse to belive 600 rds/operative.
Only for the ones carrying MG's, and those would be in cardboard boxes, yes.
At least, that's how B20 was outfitted. And since the books regarding that incident were written by actual SAS operatives on an actual SAS mission I would like to take that for the truth.
And they had nowhere near 600 rds/operative.

[nolips71]

the SAS mod have info on this matter but i cannot tell you

[Messiah]

i doubt it....

[Bosniarat]

Well I would like to say that I am in the US Army and I in a Combat loadout will carry up to 7 Magazines 4 Baseball Grenades and an First Aid kit, Yet I can and Have carried up to 200 extra Rounds in My Ruck
 the SAW Gunner will Carry and Can carry up to 800 rounds via the 200 round Drums I have carried 4 drums But 2 of them were in my ruck with my extra Barrel. so yes you can carry 600 rounds but it gets heavy after a while
Well Have a Great Night
HOOOOAAAH!

[BlinkDog]

On my infantry course we carried the usual load.
personal:
6 30rd Magazines for c7
3-4 boxes 30rd loose 5.56mmN

either:
3 Law
2-3 belts for C6 gpmg
3-4 belts fot C9 LMG
a water jerry
prc-77 radio
carl Gustav Mraw
SF kit for C6
Medical kit

We did not carry grenades since we just used blanks and T flashes.

The loads in ofp were prob more based on older warsaw pact loads which were lighter. Most Soviet/WP troops carried 3-4 mags and a few extra items.

[KTottE]

Well I would like to say that I am in the US Army and I in a Combat loadout will carry up to 7 Magazines 4 Baseball Grenades and an First Aid kit, Yet I can and Have carried up to 200 extra Rounds in My Ruck
 the SAW Gunner will Carry and Can carry up to 800 rounds via the 200 round Drums I have carried 4 drums But 2 of them were in my ruck with my extra Barrel. so yes you can carry 600 rounds but it gets heavy after a while
Well Have a Great Night
HOOOOAAAH!

This I can believe.
7 clips = 210 rounds
200 extra rounds brings the total to 410 rounds. But that was only for extreme situations, right?
When you either expected that you would not be resupplied for a long time, or that you would run in to heavy resistance.

And I don't doubt that the SAW gunner has 800 rounds available to him. But he will never carry all of those himself. They will be distributed across the entire platoon.

And I strongly doubt that any of the members of SAS Mod are ex-SAS operatives.

[DeadMeatXM2]

I based my post on what i know.

Some of my mates in the RAF regiment carry:

8 mags in their webbing/assult vest,
1 mag in the weapon - at all times,
4/5 small grenades
maby an extra pack of 200 rds in clips in a cardboard box/fabric sling in their burgen

The anit-armour guys carry 4/5 mags,
4 small grenades,
and their weapon, be it LAW/NLAW

the guys with LSW's carry mainly ammo, as they are the fire support teams and have:

1 LSW
12 mags in webbing
1 mag in weapon
no grenades, maby 1 or 2
1 cardboard box/sling of 200rds in the burgen.

That is what i know, it may be wrong

[ZIKAN]

From my experience 6 to 8 magazines is a realistic ammo load.
But there are many things to consider beforehand like:

1. The type of mission.
2. Duration of mission.
3. Re-supply, if any...
4. Other equipment to be carried: (radio and batteries, water, medical supplies, rations, support weapons and ammo etc)

In war time the ammo load is increased, usually by personnal choice and common sense.

But yes i agree the OFP weapon load out is not realistic  

[BlinkDog]

From my experience 6 to 8 magazines is a realistic ammo load.
But there are many things to consider beforehand like:

1. The type of mission.
2. Duration of mission.
3. Re-supply, if any...
4. Other equipment to be carried: (radio and batteries, water, medical supplies, rations, support weapons and ammo etc)

In war time the ammo load is increased, usually by personnal choice and common sense.

But yes i agree the OFP weapon load out is not realistic  

Agreed type of mission means alot. We learned for Recce to just have one mag in the gun, one in a pocket, no webbing. On a recce you would never engage an enemy, the 2 mags are for situations when things get fudged up. Fighting patrols and large offensive actions are a different story.

[@cero]

Somebody recuested time ago a addon of a burgen where you would be able to carri more amo. It would be to dificult to get the stuff for yourselfe but it would be good to have a cuple in a squad, but now that I'm thinking... if you can drive an amo truck you should be able to rearm aswell even knowing that you'r the driver, so a burgen like that would be the same, right? Or if you have resistance you can drop the burgen and then get amo from it and then put the burgen back on you'r shoulders, right?
 However, the idea of having small hand grenades is good, but if the game is coded that way... :-\ I very much doubt it will be posible even knowing they are smaller.
Later all.
@CERO.