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Donnervogel

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UH34D
« on: 11 Nov 2002, 01:07:00 »
Hi guys. I am working on a UH34D. I don't have much time to work on it. I can only spare time on weekends. Therefore I am working on it for a long time now ;)
I am texturing the fuselage now and I wanted to ask wich style of markings you prefer and if there is any logical difference ;)

I found two 'common' styles of those choppers and I can't decide wich one would be better.

Style 1 :

'MARINES' written in white letters and that logo with the star
http://www.popasmoke.com/visions/showimage.php?content=2588

Style 2 :

'MARINES' written in black letters and without that logo
http://www.popasmoke.com/visions/image.php?source=2065

I attached a image of my model as it looks like now.

Vyper

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #1 on: 11 Nov 2002, 01:55:44 »
Thats lookin just fine! In regard to the paint scheme....i suggest the later without the white letters, i think it was more comon and blends in better.

But i'm liking the look of it!

Vyper

Monkey Lib Front

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #2 on: 11 Nov 2002, 04:16:16 »
get some, get some, get some, looks sweet will fit well into the nam pack

BoNeCoLLeCToR

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #3 on: 11 Nov 2002, 10:29:11 »
The model looks badass nice job there Donner hope you make some good textures for it m8
Keep up the good work ;)

Offline Nixer6

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #4 on: 12 Nov 2002, 00:39:36 »
Lookin Good man...

The UH34 was also used almost exclusively by SOG. A special Vietnamese unit flew SOG teams to "places we weren't" in that bird.

I believe they were unmarked. I think I can find info and pictures. Will be back later. Gota "WORK" on something. ;)

Here's a link a VNAF H34 from the 219th Kingbees:

http://vnaf.net/photos/choctaw/h34_219_1.jpg

And some info:

A photo of an H-34 "Kingbee" helicopter, unmarked due to its mission of supporting S.O.G. recon teams in Cambodia and Laos. The Green Beret soldier is a former recon team leader and at the time (early 1969) of this picture a SPAF/Covey rider who directed over border recon team insertions and extraction's as well as tactical air support for those teams. (SPAF is an acronym for Sneaky Pete Air Force, the Clandestine U.S.Army O-1 Bird-dogs which flew daily missions in Cambodia and Laos to support reconnaissance and interdiction of the Ho Chi Minh trail). This particular bird was piloted by "Cowboy" a legendary Vietnamese pilot of extraordinary skill and valor, from the 219th Helicopter Squadron in Da Nang. Cowboy lost his life in a "Black Op" supporting the recon men of SOG.

The Special Ops community should be universally pleased to see "Cowboy" get some well earned press. All of the H-34s that supported us in '69 while I was there were this green/black combination paint scheme, but they also supported our sister unit CCN out of Marble Mountain. We always got the same aircrews who were highly skilled, fearless and dependable in the face of enemy fire. Cowboy for example had thousands of flight hours and would go anywhere, anytime despite the odds. It's a wonder he lived as long as he did. Many Special Forces Recon soldiers owe him their lives...

« Last Edit: 12 Nov 2002, 08:19:55 by Nixer6 »
Why do I have to be a Rocket Scientist to make a good mission?

Eviscerator

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #5 on: 13 Nov 2002, 20:41:43 »
the marines also used the UH-34D a lot, the famous FMJ "How can you kill women and children...." scene was from a UH-34D

Offline Nixer6

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #6 on: 13 Nov 2002, 20:59:40 »
I meant that SOG used ONLY the UH34, at least in the early part of the war. I think better than I write (sometimes)  ;)
Why do I have to be a Rocket Scientist to make a good mission?

Eviscerator

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #7 on: 13 Nov 2002, 21:13:23 »
ah probably my fault...i really should learn to read one of these days :P

Donnervogel

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #8 on: 13 Nov 2002, 22:04:00 »
Hehe thx guys. I'm looking what I can do. But I still don't know wich style you'd prefer. I'd like to make a marines version first. But wich one of those two? Maybe I can add other textures later. However I'll start my next modeling/texturing session friday evening and I'll start with more basic things than the markings. I am really short on time these days. You have to be patient :)

So far I textured the cockpit and the inside of the chopper but I found so many different styles of that too that I'll maybe modify it. Depends on what looks best.

Here's a pic of the cockpit
« Last Edit: 13 Nov 2002, 22:04:56 by Donnervogel »

Donnervogel

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #9 on: 13 Nov 2002, 22:06:44 »
and one of the inside.
I used the same sheme that was used vor the hueys later but without details so far. Maybe i'll change it since I don't like the look of it very much.


btw: Don't worry about the different green tones. I'm still tweaking it to find the best looking green for OFP.
« Last Edit: 13 Nov 2002, 22:10:40 by Donnervogel »

Dirtman

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #10 on: 13 Nov 2002, 23:56:15 »
Korea and early Vietnam where in white, later they changed it to black, at least thats what father-in-law said (Korea) and a buddy of mine (Vietnam).  So I would go with the white to cover both areas.

Monkey Lib Front

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #11 on: 14 Nov 2002, 02:46:32 »
the marines also used the UH-34D a lot, the famous FMJ "How can you kill women and children...." scene was from a UH-34D

Thats were my "get some, get some, get some" was from :D

Btw looking sweet.

also any good tips on taking Screenshots from DVD's using power DVD?

Schoeler

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #12 on: 14 Nov 2002, 05:00:35 »
Nice chopper.  I'd go with the white early-Vietnam markings as the UH-34 got replaced later in the war.  Also the cockpit gauges should be analog and crude by today's standards.  I believe this was a piston engine chopper, so sounds may be hard to come by.  Piston radial and v-12 engine noises are dramatically different from a turbine.  I'll see if I can't dig something up for you.  Maybe try and rip the sound from Full metal Jacket or somewhere else. :)

Eviscerator

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #13 on: 14 Nov 2002, 08:02:37 »
or search around for its counterparts, like the RAF Wessex, it's still in use today out in Cyprus

DeLiltMon

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Re:UH34D
« Reply #14 on: 14 Nov 2002, 18:20:52 »
The Wessex is powered by a turbine engine, the earlier Whirlwind was powered by a radial engine you might have better luck in finding a radial sound if you look for a Whirlwind instead  ;)
You can get some info on both from http://www.helicoptermuseum.co.uk/collection/westland.htm

And correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the chopper used in FMJ actually a re-sprayed Wessex (hardly surprising really since it was filmed here in the UK :D)

Anyway enough technical details, nice model!  ;D