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jamie_psx

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #15 on: 30 Apr 2003, 15:12:59 »
Yeah but you can't do the SetDammage with vehicles/aircraft, because they change appearance and sometimes even force any Man units out.
A broken down truck is still supposed to look like a normal/undamaged truck.
I guess the SetFuel command might do the trick.

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #16 on: 01 May 2003, 00:54:45 »
The setdammage command can be used on pretty much any object in the game, except the weapons a soldier is currently holding.

It works incrementally between 0 and 1, so as you slowly increase the damage value, all objects will starts showing more damage...
- soldiers start showing wounds
- vehicles start losing movement (tyres go flat, etc) and weapon function
- some objects will simply go from healthy to destroyed (houses, etc)

setdammage is the destructive way to implement mechanical failures.
setfuel would be the non-destructive way of doing it as would be well-suited to simulating engine failures of all kinds.


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LOL! Man, I must be a tad too tired, as I've basically just repeated what you said. ::)

Maybe I should try that sleep thing I hear so much about ... *Noon slaps himself upside the head*

Yes, setfuel would probably be the best choice for vehicles. ;D

*Noon goes for a very strong coffee*
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« Last Edit: 01 May 2003, 01:01:42 by Noon416 »
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Mr_Shady

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #17 on: 01 May 2003, 17:00:40 »
I'd like to be able to be wounded but still be able to fight or move to a diminished level of efficiency, and be able to do this to the enemy. Like if I shoot a soldier in the leg, and have him limp off on one leg.

I have to agree that the Karma physics engine fron UT2003 would be great. I remember playing the demo, and I was amazed with the death sequences. If you don't know what Karma is, it makes the dead act in a realistic and unique fashion, going limp and all rag-doll like, so no two deaths look the same. For example, if you headjob someone from 1km away while he's looking the other way, he'll just crumple to the floor. If you get him while he's running, he'll probably take a tumble due to momentum. If you, say, get him with a 40mm HE grenade, he'll be blasted in the air, tumbling with the force and with his limbs flailing. If he dies on a slope, he'll roll down it realistically. Especially good are the falling deaths and seeing someone go down the stairs, arms and legs all over the show when they come to a stop  ;) I'd recommend the UT2003 demo, just so you can see how far you can blast someone with the rocket launcher  ;D

I'd also like to see a bit more blood, but not a Soldier of Fortune II kind of excess, with heads getting split open and arteries spurting, with the poor grunt screaming his head off and writing in agony. I think an entry/exit wound where the round went in/came out would suffice.

And Nicd, I don't think you'd die if you stood next to a tank as it fired. The displacement of air might shove you a bit, and the actual blast would deafen you, if you're not wearing ear defenders. I mean, artillerymen don't die when they fire their guns, and they're using anything from 105mm to 155mm (the biggest common tank guns are 120mm for NATO and 125mm for Eastern Bloc tanks).

Oh, yeah! Better tanks in OFP 2! It'd be great to "track" them with an AT launcher, ie. blowing a track off to immobilize them. Oh, and buildings that blow up realistically, like the walls collapsing or a hole getting punched through! And deformable terrain, so we can blow holes in the ground or use engineering vehicles to dig AT ditches or fill trenches with fascine bundles! And flame-based weapons, like white phos grenades, that you can use to smoke the enemy out with (read: flash-fry him with). And some form of close-combat, like bayonets or fighting knives! And- aaack!

*Kooky gets dragged away by the men in white coats*


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tankieboy

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #18 on: 01 May 2003, 19:16:12 »
No you don't die if you stand next to a tank when it fires or I would be dead 1000 times over, lol.

Yippyfn

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« Reply #19 on: 02 May 2003, 11:31:24 »
Did anyone mention swimming? Swimming would be awesome. But I think I saw something about that a few weeks ago.

swift88

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« Reply #20 on: 02 May 2003, 15:28:02 »
i think there should be alot more support vehicles ie pontoon bridges, bridge layers, and mine clearers  ;D oh if only. also i think there should be a indirect/direct artillary support and close air support option :o

Mr_Shady

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« Reply #21 on: 02 May 2003, 19:37:54 »
Being able to blow bridges realistically, and being able to combat engineer (minesweeping with a detector, engineer vehicles digging and bulldozing, dropping fascine bundles and laying Vehicle Launched Bridges) would rate pretty high in my list. It'd be great for MP, one team defending a town with a bridge in the middle and it rigged to blow, then the other team trying to take the bridge. If the defenders blow the bridge up, the attackers need to use a bridgelayer to cross it  ;D

Yippyfn

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« Reply #22 on: 02 May 2003, 20:28:26 »
I agree Kooky, engineering and swimming are my most wanted. Imagine, expecting an attack and being able to build and place fortifications (like Iron Wall, by TakeoffTim).

jamie_psx

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« Reply #23 on: 03 May 2003, 15:00:26 »
Another thing we could use would be a "minefield" object.

Instead of individual mines, OFP2 should give the player the opportunity to place a "configurable" minefield just like we can place marker circles,ellipses, and rectangles of different sizes.

So that's it then:
* Minefields
* Indirect Artillery
* Randomized equipment malfunction.

Anything else is just a bonus.  ;D

Mr_Shady

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #24 on: 03 May 2003, 21:05:00 »
Realistic destruction of tanks! It makes me fighting mad when my 60-ton killing machine expodes because some bastard shot my main gun with an AT4  >:(

While I'm talking about tanks, I think there should be full getting in/out animations, and random mechanical faults depending on the vehicle, so if we have an M155 Sheridan, it should have an unreliable main gun, and if we have a Cheiftain Mk 3 it should break down every five yards  ;D

I'd like to see vertical slopes too, which can only be ascended/descended with specialist gear, instead of the 99% gradient slopes in OFP, where it's possible to sprint in bursts up them (when you're prone, hold E, then press Q to get up, and you'll dash up, then get down again).

Sinking boats would be nice, instead of blowing them up. Get a lucky shot against a boat, and it'd penetrate the hull and sink it, without destroying it.


Unfortunately, since OFP2 is a Vietnam game (boo! hiss!  >:() all the modern stuff like laser pointers, tac lights, infra-red/thermal imaging/image intensifier goggles will be ignored by BIS, so we'll still have a lot of restrictions.

*goes off to execute random Codemasters and BIS staff until they make OFP2 about the British Army  ;D*

jamie_psx

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #25 on: 05 May 2003, 01:48:16 »


Unfortunately, since OFP2 is a Vietnam game (boo! hiss!  >:() all the modern stuff like laser pointers, tac lights, infra-red/thermal imaging/image intensifier goggles will be ignored by BIS, so we'll still have a lot of restrictions.


Yeah, I'm not too crazy about a Vietnam game either.
I think that they should make wars from Falkland Islands/Malvinas to the present.
But if they do make a vietnam game then my initial suggestions are extremely relevant since everyone knows that the M16 jammed even if you only looked at it wrong.  ;D

delaware

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #26 on: 05 May 2003, 14:00:50 »
I agree Kooky, engineering and swimming are my most wanted. Imagine, expecting an attack and being able to build and place fortifications (like Iron Wall, by TakeoffTim).

How about an on-screen sketch pad overlaid onto the map where you can make rough diagrams with your mouse?  You could have user-definable shapes, so in order to place a sandbag wall, you'd simply draw its shape (or choose from a list of names).  You could then draw a line extending from the object that would represent its length.  The AI engineer would then optimize spacing and alignment and create it for you.  If the engineer was human, there could be some way of sending him the sketch in-game.

Add the ability to save, load and scale plans (to meet different size requirements) and you'd have yourself a useful feature.  What do you think?

swift88

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« Reply #27 on: 05 May 2003, 14:21:44 »
 i think that idea of the map and sandbags etc would be cool but even better would be a bridge layer  8) i would love one........... but i also want planes to fly more realistic and not drop the throttle every time u let go >:( i also want a better computer A.I  which prevents the choper pilots from colliding midair etc...........
« Last Edit: 07 May 2003, 19:14:06 by swift88 »

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #28 on: 08 May 2003, 08:54:42 »

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Headphones?!
Home theatre systems, mi'lad! 15" Subwoofers!

When an M1A1 lets rip, if...
- the house don't shake
- the cat don't scream out the door
- the neighbours don't call the bomb sqaud
...then you ain't playin.  

*wonders why his wife hates OFP*  
Hahaha! ;D

What i want to see is flying limbs! and not just when your dead, imagine crawling round with no legs :-\ Also more realistic deaths, so if a tank fires on you there wont be much left to see.

And, they could build in an ability to have caves without having to model them into the landscape

Proper rivers! (ie not ones that have 2 be at sea level to work.


rancor_man67

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Re:You Want Realism ? I got your realism right here :)
« Reply #29 on: 15 May 2003, 14:38:30 »
Hmmmm....

In the heat of combat i think i would be a crapped off if my apache just *broke down* in mid air. How many times have you heard of things breaking down in a battle? Its a good idea though. Jamming guns is diffrent. I think that would be good. You should be able to fix them though. I think that dammageable parts of cars and stuff would be good.

Eg: A shilka blasts your a-10, and one jet catches fire.

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When an M1A1 lets rip, if...
- the house don't shake
- the cat don't scream out the door
- the neighbours don't call the bomb sqaud
...then you ain't playin.  

*wonders why his wife hates OFP*  

Hehe!

Try with 2 1200w double subs!!

*Crickey!! Why is my power bill so high??*

Rancor.
« Last Edit: 15 May 2003, 14:43:05 by rancor_man67 »