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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #810 on: 22 Aug 2003, 01:32:19 »
as for the colour of the lens in the goggles.... check this out:

http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=2838&d=

there are several variations of coloured lenses... and as any skiers out there will tell you, when its a white out on the slopes (cloud meets snow = no shadow = no definition of hill ot gradient etc = hard skiing) then yellow lenses (or in my opinion) are the best tint to help you get down in one piece - and when its fresh powder in the morning - thats a great thing  ;D
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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #811 on: 22 Aug 2003, 01:37:01 »
http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=2037&d=

just a wondering if you're adding medic packs to the medics....  ;)
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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #812 on: 22 Aug 2003, 03:27:07 »
Good to hear from you again Messiah! Been a while...

as for the colour of the lens in the goggles.... check this out:

http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=2838&d=

there are several variations of coloured lenses... and as any skiers out there will tell you, when its a white out on the slopes (cloud meets snow = no shadow = no definition of hill ot gradient etc = hard skiing) then yellow lenses (or in my opinion) are the best tint to help you get down in one piece - and when its fresh powder in the morning - thats a great thing  ;D

Messy, mate...while any tint will help in snow to help distinguish the definition of a hill (i think anyone who's ever been skiing on a sunny day realizes that by now :D), the yellow tinted lens has become more popular in a military aspect due to the fact that the human eye has shown to react and notice movement in any environment due to the subduing of color and translation of information to the mind. A bit hard to understand. The multitude of colors in a woodland environment, for example, leads to an over-saturation of color in the eye and through a clear lens, your eye sees and mind comprehends the entire spectrum of colors one would encounter. When tinted, the eye gets a subdued and therefore a more limited spectrum of colors to react to, allowing the mind to decipher the environment better and allowing it to comprehend and concentrate on movement instead. Why yellow is the best in doing this is still something that is not entirely certain, but it is. ;D

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http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=2037&d=

just a wondering if you're adding medic packs to the medics....  

I've already brought up the issue to the guys, not sure the decision, I'd assume so, but don't put words in my mouth on this one...  ;D
I had some construction issues with that exact medical pack when using it, and wasn't overly pleased with its performance. However, BH industries have redeemed themselves extremely well with the STOMPII pack, which has proven in all situations to be excellent quality.


any questions/comments, like always, drop a comment
cheers mate
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« Last Edit: 22 Aug 2003, 03:27:39 by ofpeditor »

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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #813 on: 22 Aug 2003, 03:48:14 »
Why yellow is the best in doing this is still something that is not entirely certain, but it is.

Maybe yellow is the best colour to subdue the spectrum (as you've stated) while enhancing daytime contrast?

That or maybe the rods & cones in your eye's react differently to the singular colours.
Yellow reacting better with the rods (movement interpretation) while green reacts better with the cones (image definition)...

This is only conjecture on my part, but it seems to make sense from what little I could find on the net.

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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #814 on: 22 Aug 2003, 04:13:15 »
Maybe yellow is the best colour to subdue the spectrum (as you've stated) while enhancing daytime contrast?

That or maybe the rods & cones in your eye's react differently to the singular colours.
Yellow reacting better with the rods (movement interpretation) while green reacts better with the cones (image definition)...

This is only conjecture on my part, but it seems to make sense from what little I could find on the net.

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In simplest terms and for the most part, your conjecture is accurate...What's bothering me is that I know back in Med School I came across this same topic at some point and can't recall any of the specifics. Old age. Old age. Damn old age. I'll do some research on it more with some resources here.

My quote referred to the research being done on why yellow is the colour (and not a different one) that reacts the best within the eye with movement. They're not entirely sure about that yet.

Cheers Noon!
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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #815 on: 22 Aug 2003, 08:24:06 »
what do the orange and gray lenses do then? is the orange similar to the Yellow?

Also I would like to add my voice of support for BAS adding Packs to the Medics, that would make them even better (if that's pssible  ;)  ;D)

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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #816 on: 22 Aug 2003, 11:48:35 »
hmmmm...

good to see u too ofpeditor...

as far as i remember from physics lessons (oh my lord  ::)) when you place a coloured lens in front of the eye... or light source.... the coloured lens does not allow any colour but its colour to pass through (spectrum of light)

so when u place a red lens over a light bulb, its actually just blocking the o0ther colours and not making the light red so to speak...

now yellow is a primary colour and hence most of the colours we see around us will have yellow in it to some extent.... green is blue and yellow - hence will be highly effected by the yellow lense... and if ofpeditor is correct - it seems logical that making these intense, overpowering woodland colours that surround u, more dull and less distracting, movement should be easier to spot...

and also - keeps horible bits of sand out of your eyes  ;)
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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #817 on: 22 Aug 2003, 12:05:09 »
Well yellow/orangy tinted glasses and such are used by people with cataracts, it enhances their vision, so I think at least yellow/orange has some sort of quality to it other than just tinting what you see.

Now that I think about it, yellow tinted glasses/lenses/goggles will enhance the contrast of things you see, and also give you a better depth-perception. Mostly in use by sporting types, so that they can better judge where to aim etc.
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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #818 on: 22 Aug 2003, 14:13:37 »
Veering slightly off-topic, purple lenses or plastic overlays apparently make it easier for people with dyslexia to differentiate different characters. It's amazing what coloured lenses can actually do  :)

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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #819 on: 22 Aug 2003, 15:16:35 »
Can't we all just pick a damn color to agree on!... White, yellow, green, purple.... Who cares...

Why not just make the lense color changable... if possible... so we can all have it our way...

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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #820 on: 22 Aug 2003, 17:00:44 »
By "setobjectexture"?? Who knows, might work.

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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #821 on: 22 Aug 2003, 17:47:00 »
I think that would be pretty useless, its not even as though it matters that much...so you'll get what you're given :)

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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #822 on: 22 Aug 2003, 17:50:34 »
pfft, spoken like a true developer evis :)

And now for something completely different:
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<[SF]All_Killer> whats a DEV?
<[DEV]Abraxas> It's a person who is asked infinite questions at every moment of the day...

Might help explain to you people how the BAS guys are feeling :)

(Abraxas is btw one of the devs behind the game Americas Army)
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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #823 on: 22 Aug 2003, 18:21:08 »
Heres an idea...if yellow improves the ability to pick up movement.....why not implement that into the game somehow? so like the 160th Pilots visors that tint the screen when activated...the goggles actually give the screen a yellow tint...that wouldn't just be eye candy because if it really does help movement detection, its practical and gives the rangers and delta a real world advantage to compliment their supirior weapon's and armour? (as well as training ofcourse!)

what does everybody think?

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P.S. Purely an idea, not a request, but some feedback on playability, do ability and wantability would be nice!

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Re:Ballistic Addon Studios Update Thread
« Reply #824 on: 22 Aug 2003, 19:06:43 »
yea setobjectexture should work.... And It wouldnt be usless.... It makes them more... customizable... And if you add vipers suggestion to tint the screen you could deicde weather you want it tinted (yellow googles) or not tinted (clear goggles)..... I think that would be awsome...