terrorism campaign

[Bulletsfire]

ok, i'm medium or below at mission editing, but i have an idea for a campaign where you play as a group of "Terroristsm" or, as i call them, "POLITICAL EXTREMESTS ;D."
Anyway, this takes place on Nogova, or part of the campaign does, maybe not all. But the island(s) are in Soviet territory, in other words there more like states of whatever Russians call there things. And youre group is fed up with the corruption and violence in the Soviet government. Well, heres the overview:
          I'll start from the end. In the final mission you go in and take over the State's (or whatever's) capital. This i was thinkig will be the big office building in Lipany, on Nogova. but the missions before your group can seize control of the capital, riots start happening, your group was planning this, but it happens to soon . So there is in creased guard around the city. This makes your group come up with a new plan to strike. They are going to have to procure a helocopter from the military. You also have a resource in the russian military who is smuggling supplies and providing info to you. But cant get you enough equipment, all he gets you are a few AK74su's and some mines, which is not enough stuff for your group. So on the first mission I was planning where you, and a few guys strike on a military convoy carrying special forces equipment. Then you would proceed to strike on a new, sparcely guarded airfield and procure a Russian chopper. Then with the chopper you would take it, land w/ your team and land it right outside the capital. You then do a hostile take over of the city while the riots are going on.
    Well, hows that, i'll need ALOT of help, but i think its a good idea. What do you think?

[max_killer_payne]

Lol, me LCD and Mitrokhin started a Terrorism mod. Neva really took off though. Can't find the old topic though

[Drozdov]

Okay, if they're political extremists against the Soviets then that makes them.... Nazis? Lovely  . And again, we assume that these wee Nazis can fly a chopper. Man those guys are multi-talented!

Still it's not a bad idea, and it bears some similarity to my own campaign idea. Entirely different situation, though. Personally I prefer the thought of being a left extremeist than a neo-nazi, but hey, each to their own...

[Bulletsfire]

Ok, i just call terrorists political extremists ;D , and theyre not against the soviets, they just are against corruption in the government. and one of the terrorists is a civilian pilot.

[m21man]

They're against government corruption!?! These guys don't sound like terrorists, they sound like kind, wholesome political activists that got hyped up on combat drugs.

[Bulletsfire]

ok, thats what theyre saying to get the people hyped up, but they actually want to take control of the whole island.

[Homefry31464]

This is kinda like the Resistance campaign.  Your only terrorists depending on which side you look at it.  Example:  I'm sure the Russians thought the resistance fighters were terrorists, but anyway, just make sure you make the terrorists fight for a good reason.  I don't want to have to blow up stuff for no reason.  But, sounds good.

[Drozdov]

"One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."

That's what somebody intelligent said, and it's true. What sort of corruption are we talking about?

[m21man]

No, I'd say the difference between a terrorist and a freedom fighter is that the terrorist strikes civilian targets, whereas the freedom fighter strikes military targets. They may be fighting towards the same goal, but there is a major difference between the two.

So, who are the main characters in this campaign? I'd think terrorists might actually get boring to play (stuff like "Blow up this apartment, throw a pipebomb into this store"). There'd be too little real combat in the campaign.

[Drozdov]

terrorist strikes civilian targets

Actually that's not always true. For example, the IRA killed lots of British soldiers. And they're classed as terrorists by their enemies and freedom fighters by themselves.

Oh, and here's another good terrorism quote:

"Terrorism is the war of the poor; war is the terrorism of the rich."

But we digress...

[m21man]

I think labeling the IRA terrorists is a misnomer if they kill troops, but if they're killing civilians, then they're taking their fight to the innocent. I also apply my thinking to acts like the bombings in Beirut. The embassy bombing was terrorism, but the bombings of the American and French barracks were directed at troops in a combat zone, and as anyone in a military uniform is fair game in a combat zone, the bombings were simply acts of guerrilla warfare.

And yes, we digress. Perhaps you or I could open a thread in the OT section of the BIS forums before one of the OFPEC staff closes this thread.

[Bulletsfire]

So, who are the main characters in this campaign? I'd think terrorists might actually get boring to play (stuff like "Blow up this apartment, throw a pipebomb into this store"). There'd be too little real combat in the campaign.

ok, all my mission was going to be was a group of guys taking over city hall. no blowing shit up in the name of allah.

[LCD]

goin into politics here ? :-X

just 1 comment

@ m21man

gimme war (real war i meen w/ da whole fightin thingy (ya know wat i meen)) in da last 2 centauries dat didnyt had civie casaluties ? - den it goes 2 da

"Terrorism is the war of the poor; war is the terrorism of the rich."

thingy

LCD OUT

[asmodeus]

Ok everyone, you are very close to crossing the line to making this a purely political topic...

If it makes the step over into that category, I'll have to lock it.   So please just discuss the mission, and don't go into details on subjects that aren't necessary.  (even if it is interesting)

Thanks,

Asmo

[m21man]

OK, if anyone else is interested in continuing this debate, let's take it to the BIS forums.

[Bulletsfire]

ok then now is anyone willing to help me? i said what the missions were and now i wanna know?

[m21man]

First off, here's the link to the offtopic thread on BIS:
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=a52b6672f2faf567c2b7aa8d8dddb80b;act=ST;f=11;t=33920;st=0;&#entry426099

i said what the missions were and now i wanna know?

. Uh, what the hell does this mean .

[Bulletsfire]

i said what the missions were supposed to be like (read my 1st post) and now i wanna know if anyone will help me?

[m21man]

Sorry. Here's some of my ideas on missions:
1. Sneak into Dahvle and destroy the bridge to stop convoys from moving across it.
2. American special forces (I hear BAS in the air... ) establish a temporary base from which they fly out to attack resistance bases. Ambush an American mechanic on the road to a "house of ill repute" ;D in Petrovice, disguise yourself as him, infiltrate the airbase, and sabotage as many choppers as possible.

Campaign Idea:
1. Use scripts to have a buying system (E.g. $500 for an AK, $1000 for an AT4). You can then buy guns from other fighters during special buying missions. The money you accumulate in a mission should be saved to the next mission, etc... You can accumulate money by robbing goverment banks, ambushing government payroll vans, or taking cash off the bodies of dead soldiers.

[m21man]

Oh, and will this mission take place entirely on Nogova, or will you have some missions on the Lost Isle? Nagual has gone into an information blackout about the map, which probably means that good things are about to happen (Demonic twinkle appears in m21man's eye ;D ).

[Bulletsfire]

i was thinking about using different islands. The buying idea is good, but i'm not that advanced in scripts. if you would kno where any examples are i'd like to have them

[m21man]

I think I could do a basic buying script that would save money between levels. The script would probably be like this: You have a special buying session, and during the session at the top left of your screen you'd have a counter displaying your available cash. You use the action menu to buy stuff like this:
Buy AK-74 ($400)
Buy PK ($750)
............................

When you bought something, you'd add it to a "holding box". When you're done buying, you can either remove stuff from the box for a refund or you can keep it. When you finish the mission by signalling with the radio menu, the weapons are dumped into your weaponpool for the next mission.

[Bulletsfire]

if you could that would be great.

[m21man]

Sure, I can do it. Really it's just a case of accurately saving a number between levels (Should be very easy ).

[m21man]

Here's a more specific concept for the buying missions:
Every 3 missions, there's an arms sale in some remote location. Each of the terrorist bands is allowed to send one representative to the secret sale. You load up a truck with all the spare guns that your group has "acquired" ;D, then drive to the place. At the sale, you can walk up to any one of the representatives and when you get close enough to the representative six new actions will pop up like this:

Buy Weapons
Buy Ammo
Buy Other
Sell Weapons
Sell Ammo
Sell Other

Once you select one of these, these actions will disappear. When you select one of the buy options, you'll get a list on the action menu of what is available in that category and once you select a specific item, it's added to the guns in your truck. The "weapons" and "ammo" categories are obvious, and the "other" category will have stuff like NV Goggles, Mines, Satchel Charges, etc...

When you select the "sell" option, you get a menu of items that you can sell. You can sell anything that you're carrying at the moment. You'll get some cash for the item, which will now appear on the seller's "buy" menu.

The Buy menu will be easy, but the Sell menu will probably be much harder to make.