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Offline Artak

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #15 on: 27 Mar 2005, 19:42:40 »
Do I need to add something here?
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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #16 on: 27 Mar 2005, 22:53:03 »
Hey!
Yeah but, shouldn't that mission say if somethings wrong? Or am I mistaken and it hasn't been put on intentionally or not. In which case I apoligize :-[! Alls I was saying was, if a mission is faulty just notify the author and delete it.
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Offline Artak

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #17 on: 27 Mar 2005, 23:12:12 »
If you must know, there's nothing wrong with that particular mission anymore, or at least anything wrong hasn't come up. The one you see is the third version of the mission and it is currently under review.

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Why should OFPEC give people a ridiculous amount of time to fix their mission anyway?
The time is usually 2 weeks after IM and e-mail sent to the author before the faulty mission gets deleted, IF no response from the author in that time. Other than that the waiting time is case sensitive and there's nothing ridiculous about it as long as the mission is marked as faulty so everyone knows to avoid it.

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Do these people look like they give a d**n
We like to think so and take our business very seriously. I've personally had several missions pending in the MP section for a year now and I would be very hurt if they were deleted because of a minor bug that could be fixed in a flash.
We have a system that allows you to update the submitted file. Why shouldn't we offer a chance to use it.

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If it were me, i'd give authors an e-mail, instant message and 3 months to fix and resubmit their missions.
Standard procedure is that authors get e-mail + IM + 2 weeks time to reply. After that the mission is either deleted, or left for the author to fix in a reasonable amount of time.

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Why should OFPEC bend-over-backwards supplying their time, money and effort into waiting for people ignorant enough to not even send an e-mail saying: "am sori bud but a cant b assed wiv dat mission. jus delet it or woteva!"
We don't.

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If someone did review them, the good mission and the bad one would both recieve 0/10. Am I right?
Yes. A really really bad mission can get a 0/10, and a really really good mission, with something wrong in it can get a 0/10 too.
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Offline The-Architect

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #18 on: 28 Mar 2005, 17:11:49 »
These guys are doing it for free but they are getting joy out of it.

I wish we did. You wouldn't believe the amount of crap we get and the amount of hassle we go through trying to get things fixed. Then on top of that we get you guys.  ;D

As a mission reviewer myself all I can say is that you guys will get your missions done when they are done. If you don't like it, tough. We all do what we can when we can. Granted, some of us are a bit slack at times but that's because Flashpoint happens to be a game. Real life sometimes takes centre stage.

Best you can do is get your mission tested and submitted, then, shut up and put up.
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Offline Wolfsbane

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #19 on: 28 Mar 2005, 21:59:00 »
*Appears from the murky crack he was lurking in*

OFPEC has always had some qualms over the review sections of the site, mainly down to several reasons:

1 - Too many submissions, not enough reviewers

 This was rectified with hiring more reviewers, we had over thirty at one  point
 
The result was we had lots of people to 'encourage' to work, as they were listed as staff, and we had strangely enough, less active people with more numbers. This is because of percentages. If you have ten, and two aren't working, you've got 20% of your workforce being bums. If you have thirty, and you have fifteen not work, you've got 50% of your workforce being bums. It wasn't even a case of being bums, it was just a case of, as OFPEC policy agrees with, Real Life comes first.

So as such, a small staff list is better than the sixty plus we once had

2: The Review system on the site to begin with, was basic cut & paste ASP or HTML.

This is, naturally, rubbish for a fast flowing review system.

It was updated, and is now a ninja of web interfaces.

3: Because of the HTML system, and the interruptions whilst things were uploaded, a massive backlog appeared, and I don't know the situation now, but it was never really caught up with and got on top of. Certainly not for the missions. When I departed company with OFPEC, it was improving rapidly though.

The new system was introduced, people were hired en'masse to deal with it.

More problems arose.

4: We recieved lots of faulty missions, lots of badly designed missions, lots of crap missions, and lots of missions using lots of addons.

All this adds to the Review time. If you have to hunt for obscure addons, if the Author hasn't bug-tested, if the mission is poorly designed so as to be unplayable.

We had a feedback system for the author, which worked well.

5: We review on quality over quantity. You will never (Hopefully!) see Reviews being churned out like hotcakes, because OFPEC, is OFPEC, and OFPEC is proud of being OFPEC, and what made OFPEC become OFPEC?

Standards my good man, standards.

If you can't iron the crease on your trouser, you can't have standards.

OFPEC has very sharp creases on its trousers.

(No idea where that metaphor came from)
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Offline dmakatra

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #20 on: 28 Mar 2005, 22:04:17 »
Well said. But Wolfsbane, you've been coming here an awful lot latley. Ain't it time for a 100% comeback? I'm sure Tomb will be very happy. ;D

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #21 on: 30 Mar 2005, 18:37:45 »
:) No, I wouldn't come back. The guys are doing a brilliant job without me, and it's the way things progress. We do our best, and either move on, or get forced on, or die. :P

I love OFPEC to pieces though, and just like to pop back now and then. A couple of years of your life can't be forgot that quickly!!
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Offline 456820

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #22 on: 09 Apr 2005, 10:32:49 »
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find that special somebody who can do 5-10 reviews a month

quote from arktak the first reply to this

anway i was thinking about this and i thought i could do 5-10 reviews a month if not more well maybe.As im only 14 i have alot of time on my hand and i do have school but never seem to get any homework.
  But then i remeber the age limit thing about only being 18+ i think it was because people under that aparentaly dont take their job serious wich is true about some but not with all and also not with me i would take my job serious and i am very discaplined well so im told. lol.
  Just thought i would say in case you do get into a pickle with a load of missions and need some extra people to hgelp I could thats if you dont mind about only being 14

Offline The-Architect

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #23 on: 17 Apr 2005, 16:08:15 »
Sorry buddy, but no. Policy is policy.
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Offline macguba

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #24 on: 17 Apr 2005, 16:32:43 »
There are lots of ways you can help other than joining the staff.   For example, play Pending missions and post constructive Comments - this can be very helpful for MD staff as well as players perusing the list.

You can also contribute by playing missions posted on the beta testing board.    We're in the process of writing a new sticky on that board for new beta testers, and we are interested in any comments new testers may have.
Plenty of reviewed ArmA missions for you to play

Offline dmakatra

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #25 on: 17 Apr 2005, 16:35:00 »
Yeh, but that won't get him the sexy Missions Depot-title he's looking for. ;D

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #26 on: 17 Apr 2005, 18:14:36 »
Nah, it's not that sexy, Artak took away my even sexier "ECP Team" title to give me this! :(
Get those missions out there you morons!

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Re:Rating time for campaigns and missions
« Reply #27 on: 17 Apr 2005, 18:23:04 »
oh well i understand