how to find the answer to my question?

[greg147]

I have a really simple question, but that 'how to find the answer to your question' thing above really doesn't help at all. All it comes up with is things I really didn't want, with acouple of random letters high-lighted.

Is there a certain way i'm supposed to use it? Or does 'How do I make a unit sit down' not classify as a question? What am I doing wrong?  

[dmakatra]

The "How To Find Answers To Your Questions" thread is just a point out note, to not post questions that has been answerd a million times already. Such as "How do I make a unit sit down".

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:

[greg147]

Yes, but where are those questions that have been answered a million times?
 Surely the reason people post these questions is that they can't find the answer cos nobody posts it and the answer is probebly somewhere in the middle of the 300 and whatever pages there are on this forum.

 The point I was trying to get across is how to use the search thing.  

[Planck]

It's pretty straightforward really.

Presuming you mean sitting on a chair.......try searching with the words 'on chair'......as a phrase.


Planck

[greg147]

Sorry. Take a look for yourself. Nothing to do with 'on chair'. I also tried other stuff...

Airstrike-   No options
Air strike-  A bunch of stuff about making a helicopter explode in mid air.

This site has ALOT of useful info, but it has too much. Its hard to find a perticular answer.  :-\

PS: If anyone does know how to make a unit sit on the ground, it could save alot of time and forum space...

[Planck]

I already did with success.


Planck

[Planck]

The very first entry from my results:

Quote from: Gooner on November 06, 2004, 11:23:05 PM  
I think one of Sui's missions has soldiers sittin on chairs, i dnt know what mission it is though.

unit switchmove "onchair"

Is what I used to get the guys in chairx.
They don't necessarily need a chair, though they look pretty stupid if they're sitting in mid air

I've seen it used so they're sitting on a weapons crate... looks quite natural.

Planck

[Planck]

Aha so.......you want him to sit on the ground.

I suppose you mean without using the action menu from the middle mouse button?

Code: [Select]

Name      SITDOWN
Desc.      Makes a unit sit down
Syntax      unitname action["SITDOWN"]
Examples   loon1 action ["SITDOWN"]
Notes      Only works in SAFE or CARELESS modes.

Hope this helps


Planck

[Tyger]

or in the units init

Code: [Select]

loon_1 switchMove "EffectStandSitDown"

[dmakatra]

Search should be the last thing you check. The first thing you should check are the tutes and scripts over at the ed depot and then the FAQ. THEN you check the search. If you still haven't found it, you post.

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:

[greg147]

Wait a sec.

@Planck:

How did you get that up? All I got for the first entry was

AIRCRAFT / PARACHUTE: Ejection script (Easy)
If you want to eject a group of soldiers from a helo you can use this script:

;Ejection script by SEFE

_GrpLeader = Leader (_this Select 0)
_GrpArr = Units Group _GrpLeader
_GrpCount = Count _GrpArr
_Heli...
 

Anyway, thanks for the help guys  

[Kammak]

Search should be the last thing you check. The first thing you should check are the tutes and scripts over at the ed depot and then the FAQ. THEN you check the search. If you still haven't found it, you post.

See, I completely disagree with this advice.  If you have a direct question, not some vague "I want to create a mission, how do I do it", I see nothing wrong with posting the question.

The forums exist for players to help players.  No one is FORCED to respond to a question.

This guy had a direct, easily answered question, but it took a page full of somewhat smart-ass comments before he got an answer.  That's just not right.  If you are going to post, why not just answer the question?  Why spend that same amount of time ridiculing somebody?

I sometimes get the feeling that some folks posting here are not actually DOING any scripting, and have forgotten the feeling someone has when they hit a wall.

If you are in the middle of creating a mission, you want a fast answer so you can finish your project.  Stopping the "flow" of making the mission to spend an hour or two searching through 70 "hits" that are actually meaningless is not efficient.  When I got back into OFP several months ago, the damn search function here didn't even work, so I was stuck manually sifting through cr*p trying to get an answer sometimes.

Posting a simple direct question, and getting a response back, IS efficient.  It hurts no one.  If you are tired of seeing the same questions over and over, write an UPDATED FAQ that **includes** these questions you are so sick of!  Or just quit reading the boards for a while.  But lets not waste bandwidth being sarcastic when someone just wants help.

A lot of the resources in the Ed Depot are severely outdated, and somewhat counter-productive in many respects.  Many of the scripts and tutes in there are meaningless now, as OFP has added functionality since they were written.  Yet there is no indication of that fact anywhere in the document.... Posting a question on the other hand, usually means an up-to-date answer relevent for the current version of OFP.

[greg147]

Oh and...

@dmakatra,

I did look at the tutorials, and the scripts, and everything else on that page. And then I did check the FAQ, and THEN I messaged this. I also looked on several other OFP sites.

[Artak]

As you should have done. You did 100% right.

The "How To Find Answers To Your Questions" thread is just a point out note, to not post questions that has been answerd a million times already. Such as "How do I make a unit sit down".

Instead of being a smartarse The Real dmakatra, you could have just answered the question and this topic would have been solved long ago.


If you search before you post and just can't find the answer, there's nothing wrong with posting the question here.
Sometimes when you're all lost you can't even ask the right questions (type the right keywords to search).

The one single purpose for these forums is to answer editing questions and so serve the community. Of course we don't want to see every other topic begin with 'how do I light a campfire', but we don't want to disencourage people from posting either.

[Planck]

The last answer I gave you greg was not found in Search.

Once I knew that you meant sit on ground I just looked up the Action List which is available in the Editors Depot.


Planck