secondary weapon

[bootneckofficer]

anyone (guessing so ) know how to get primary weapons as secondary weapons?  eg. sniper rifle as secondary and m16 as primary      to make things more realistic.

[dmakatra]

More realistic? Yea right... You've played way too much Call of Duty man.

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:

[bootneckofficer]

British snipers carry an SA80 and standard soldiering kit for when they need it  they then stash this kit before stalking to their position/hide   their're not like US snipers who just rely on their spotters/observers for cover.

bootneckofficer

[General Barron]

There is a backpack addon out there, which takes up your secondary weapon slot, and basically acts as a portable ammo crate. But scripting-wise, there is no way to put a rifle in an AT slot.

[Zombie]

it can be simulated with adding an action that removes the assault rifle, then adds the sniper rifle, and then when you want to go back, removes the sniper rifle then adds the assault back.  I've tried it and it works, but......."realism" suffers somewhat because I haven't figured out how to determine how much ammo each had before switching, so as it works for me now...you can fire all your m16 ammo, switch to m21, then switch back to m16 and have full ammo again!

[djackl]

well in AA you can wear weapons on your back as well as having one in your hand, you just can't use grenades while you have one on your back.

[General Barron]

well in AA you can wear weapons on your back as well as having one in your hand, you just can't use grenades while you have one on your back.

AA? Are you talking about America's Army? Because I could have sworn this was an OFP editing site...

But if you are trying to make the case for realism, then ok, I'll agree with you. I know I can hold a rifle in my hands and run around with one or two slung on my back as well. It would be much easier than carrying a MG and a AA launcher at the same time, too.

[djackl]

But if you are trying to make the case for realism, then ok, I'll agree with you.

What? I thought i was in an AA editing site  ;D nah I was just saying that im sure its possible to carry a gun on your back as well as holding one.

[bootneckofficer]

so i have to pick up a gun in-game, rather than starting with one?

bootneckofficer

[Kammak]

If you don't want to use the backpack addon, try out kmkSquadStuff2 in the pending section of the editor depot.  It includes a *really* simple gear bag system using the action menu.

With the script, you can use ANY ammo crate to simulate your team gear or individual pack.  While it looks kinda odd to have an ammo crate appear instead of a nice looking backpack, it does solve the issue of magic ammo and keeps your "secondary" slot free for an AT4 or radio.

That was my main reason for not using the backpack addon, as it forced you to go through like four or five clicks to get a rocket launcher...in reality you can carry an M16 at-the-ready, a low-vector pack on your back, and have a rocket top-slung for fast readying.  Radiomen also routinely wear a pack on their chest and the radio/frame on their back, while still carrying an M16 at the ready or slung.  A backpack should NOT take up OFP's secondary weapon slot.

Which is why I wrote my gearbag scripts the way I did.  If you want to throw 30 rifles into the "gear bag", go for it!  You bought the game, you are free to play it however you want.  I usually use it in missions for satchel charges, smoke grenades, and a few extra magazines.  But depending on the ammo crate you choose to use with it, you could load as much as you want into it.

The script also supports using one object for the appearance, and placing the ammo crate underground...if you are a stickler for how it looks (and don't like to see the crate).

Edit: The other reason I dislike the backpack addon is that it can't be used with the CoC Scuba gear.

I've got a few missions where the player's squad inserts by scuba.  Once they reach the shore, the player drops the gear bag (using my scirpts) and then orders everyone to remove the LAR7 and gear up for the mission (radios, rocket launchers, 2xSlot machine guns,etc...).  It adds a nice touch of realism to a mission, making the player switch modes from exotic insert gear to mission gear.  And it provides a tense time, as the gear swap has to be done quickly, lest the team be spotted by patrols or rovers.  Kinda fun.  

[Kammak]

RE: Loading the gear bag.

If you want the player to have some say in what is loaded in the gear bag/backpack, instead of forcing them to use whatever the mission editor pre-loads, you can do the following.

Add an *extra* man to the player's squad, and set his Identity name to "Gear Bag".  The player can then load up this extra man with gear during the briefing, then when the mission starts, (init trigger at +1 second) just remove the extra guy from the player's group, iterate through his weapons and ammo and load those items into the gear bag.  It works nicely and gives the player some more freedom to play out the mission how he wants.


Example:

init trigger activation:
((units group player) select (count (units group player))-1) exec "LoadGear.sqs"

Code: [Select]

; LoadGear.sqs

_guy=_this
{kmkPack addWeaponCargo[_x,1]} foreach (weapons _guy)
{kmkPack addMagazineCargo[_x,1]} foreach (magazines _guy)
[_guy] join grpNull
_guy setpos[0,0,0]
deleteVehicle _guy
exit

A lot easier than making a dialog system to select the gear, in my opinion!

[bootneckofficer]

so where do i put the code bit? (as you now know im fairly new to editing but i forget things easily!!!!!!)

bootneckofficer

[Kammak]

Is the question directed at me?  If so, which code bit are you asking about?

[bootneckofficer]

to kammak!

this bit

; LoadGear.sqs

_guy=_this
{kmkPack addWeaponCargo[_x,1]} foreach (weapons _guy)
{kmkPack addMagazineCargo[_x,1]} foreach (magazines _guy)
[_guy] join grpNull
_guy setpos[0,0,0]
deleteVehicle _guy
exit

where do i put it?

thanks  bootneckofficer

[Kammak]

That bit is a script, which is a text file with an extension of ".sqs".  Put that file in the same folder as your mission, and then the trigger code (from above) will fire it at the start of the mission.

[bootneckofficer]

hi kammak
thanks for that!

so i have to have a bloke called gear bag which i delete using the init trigger but where does the ammo crate come in, i get that when u drop the "gearbag" it appears as if you have stashed gear but how do i make it appear?

bootneckofficer

[Kammak]

I'm attaching a zip file with a demo mission  including all the scripts and trigger code.

Its on Everon.  When you preview it in the editor, be sure to hold SHIFT when you click Preview, as that will take you to the Briefing screen.

In the Gear section, the last man will be shown as "Gear Bag".  Load him up with anything you want.

Once the mission starts, he will disappear, and you'll have all the "kmkSquadStuff2" actions in your action menu.  One of those is "Drop Pack".

When you select it, an ammo box will appear 2 meters in front of you.  It will all the gear loaded by the script "LoadGearBag.sqs", as well as whatever you selected for the "Gear Bag" unit in the briefing.

For documentation on the kmkSquadStuff2 scripts, see the "Pending Items" entry in the Editors Depot.

Hope this helps you!  Feel free to post any questions about it.  

[Kammak]

Attached is a much simpler version, that includes ONLY the gear bag scripts, and none of the rest of "kmkSquadStuff2".  That first one was probably more than you were looking for.  

There will just be one new action in this one, "Drop Pack".  It is replaced by "Get Pack".

As with the first sample, you can change the pre-loaded contents of the gear bag by editing "LoadGearBag.sqs".  The "Gear Bag" unit still appears in the Briefing roster as well, for the player to select gear too.

[bootneckofficer]

hey kammak thats gr8  

  works a treat  thanks

bootneckofficer

[Kammak]

Good!  I just realized I left out a line on the second set....if you use that version (with just the Get Pack/Drop Pack actions) add the following to the trigger On Activation field, at the end:

kmkPack exec "LoadGearBag.sqs"

That will load the contents from the script into the ammo crate.  Without this change, the ammo crate only has the equipment from the "Gear Bag" unit from the briefing.

The first version is correct, just the second version that I forgot to add the line!