your favorite ww2 movies, reenacted in ofp- talk about them

[Igor Drukov]

I'm afraid things are going a bit haywire here !

This thread is about ww2 movies which we could use in OFP missions, and that's it !
Mind you, personal and manichean interpretations of one of the darkest and most complicated periods of history sound dubious to me. Thank whoever you want, the Nazis lost, and that's what matters most.

Back to the topic, what I find interesting in "Private Ryan" and "Band o' Brothers" is once again the CHAOTIC and DIRTY aspect of combat. The thing I like least in OFP and missions made is the clean, orderly, aseptised way the plots are handled.
Go there, activate such trigger, such thing happens, it's all so unlikely ! Think about it, triggers activating when east or west is no longer present in the area are totally surrealistic ! On the field, how are you even supposed to know that the enemy has actually retreated ? Why shouldn't there be anyone hiding left, just as snipers did in ww2 ?
Things are always out of control to some extent, and I think the biggest challenge for a mission-maker is to inject chaos in their projects.  That's why I would like to see BOB or PR reenacted in ww2 missions.

Ig.

[.pablo.]

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"Okay so the part about having to kill all the generals at a mansion seems easy enough to do.  It could be done with BAS rangers with a helicopter insertion and everything."

and

"That plane is disguised as a U.S. Space Shuttle and headed for the space station.  The conspiracy is found out and the launchpad is located.  The mission is to blow up the aircraft before takeoff."
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please tell me you're kidding

[Torak]

Oh, I dunno... I reckon a helicopter disguised as a space shuttle, carrying a full company of SAS Stormtroopers seems like a pretty neat idea... ;D


(And yes, I AM joking!)

[bigdog632]

You all seem to agree that the plot of "Dirty Dozen" (with Charles Bronson and Yul Brunner, right ?) was to retrieve some work-of-art in some German mansion. Well, I've seen it lately, and as far as I could understand, the cons had been recruited to kill all major German officers having dinner in the said mansion.
Of course, the mission goes FUBAR (as Yul plays the role of a pervert), and the posse wind up inflaming officers and



not that it matters but i believe that was telly savalas that screwed it up(the pervert)

[BronzeEagle]

okay so scrap the idea about the mcdonalds truck turning into a space shuttle.  

[DBR_ONIX]

how bout some of the attacks in "Band of Brothers" I really like the sneaky river crossing one where the guy tripps over his own grenade, 1 problem ofp doesnt have rivers.......DOES ANYONE FIND THIS ODD?

I liked BoB... It was good/clever/scarey....
It was a while a go, I can't remeber much that happened, I remeber that river crossing, where one guy throws a greande though a windows, waits and the greande seems like a dud.. So he runs in, but it goes of, he starts screaming (Under standably, though), and is worked on my a mdeic for most of the time after.. I can't remeber if he survived...
It would be not to hard (There are a lot of islands already made...) and theres boats etc made.. Just put them together..

Sorry if this has been discused in this thread.. I don't really haev the time to read all the pages....

Another idea..  Kelly Heros... With the gold being stored in a bank... DOn't know if it would translate in to the game that well, though...?

- Ben

[General Barron]

The US only fights when its interests and security are threatend

Give me one example of a nation ever doing otherwise.

then why did the US stand by during the Hungarian Uprising of 1954 , why did the US not help stop the taliban in Afganistan before sept 11th

The US (and the UK, and the rest of the Western world) stood by during the Hungarian Uprising because if they had intervened, the USSR would have nuked Paris, London, and other major cities. At the time, the USSR had missles with longer ranges than the rest of us had. Basically, we had no choice but to stand by, or else witness the slaughter of millions of innocents.

The US didn't stop the Taliban during the 1980's Afgan war because the Taliban were fighting the Soviets. In fact, we helped the Taliban, by supplying them weapons (some of which were used against us in 2002) and training (that's when we trained Bin Laden, I believe). This may seem horrible, but remember the saying: "my enemy's enemy is my best friend". At the time, the USSR was the greater evil. Now after that, why didn't we take out the Taliban? Good question; if we had, we might have prevented 9/11. Bush the 1st didn't do much, and all Clinton ever did was blow up some tents and an asprin factory. I'm not sure if Bush II would have done much if 9/11 hadn't occured, but at least he DID do something after that.


Sorry for the diversion, but I do have a WWII suggestion: anybody remember that episode of "The Simpsons" with the "Hellfish Bonanza"? How about a mission based on that? I'm actually only half joking, because it isn't a half bad plot, really  

[Drozdov]

Good question; if we had, we might have prevented 9/11.

Actually, no, the Taliban didn't orchestrate that attack, it was Al Qaeda. Or so we think. Just thought I'd keep you right.

No matter how you turn it , the us did win the war and they did run straight into the enemy with very high cassultie rates ( infact the highest in the intire war for one company !) .

The Russians won the war more than the Americans. D-Day only really accelerated things. And methinks the Russians had far higher casualty rates. Yet nobody seems to acknowledge their massive sacrifices... tens of millions dead and everyone says the US won the war for us all? Did you know that at the time of the D-Day landings (bearing in mind the Germans knew an invasion was imminent) there were something like 10x the amount of German troops in the East compared to the West? Not that the Americans didn't help, of course, but just remember that there was a war in the East as well.

I think doing a Stalingrad based mission would be impossible - at least, if you were aiming for realism. You can't replicate that sort of non-stop close fighting between tens of thousands of troops. And Flashpoint isn't optimized for close range battles.

[Noon416]

*cough* ...

Keep the politics for IM/email, guys.

Otherwise this thread will be shortlived...