good link for chechnya pictures

[hiddenfox]

well...here ya go
http://www.pbase.com/igor01/chechnya

[Denwad]

Pictures have been rated R for some violence.

Only on the 3rd page and I've seen some blood! Thank god I haven't seen any brains.   Hate that shit.

[Denwad]

Looks like American and Russian armies have one thing in common.

[rageman]

Theres a link an that page to a site called ogrish, I advise not to go anywere near it, I checked it out and what I saw will probably haunt me every time I close my eyes.

[OCOM_LMLVLM]

thats a sick site (orgish), and the people who made that site r a SICK F**** !1

[Jakerod]

First off why are they so sick? and second off are you hoping for someone to make chechnya addons cuz if i get some mroe people for my mod i might make some.

[hiddenfox]

yea of course! the more addons the better.

i just wanted to help anyone looking for pictures for research. if you get out of the chechnya piturs there are some great pics of russian gear and cammo as well

[OCOM_LMLVLM]

why are they sick ?? well go to that site, and you'll see why !

[Jakerod]

ill just take your word for it.

[Stalker]

Looks like American and Russian armies have one thing in common.

Yes. But Americans kill innocent people during "highly accurate" bombing runs.

[UK_SKA_RULES]

Theres a link an that page to a site called ogrish, I advise not to go anywere near it, I checked it out and what I saw will probably haunt me every time I close my eyes.

are sites like that actually legal? I thought they would have all been shut down

[hiddenfox]

the best part of the internet is everything is legal, they cant enforce anything. only coutries can say 'these things are illegal' thats where you can run into problems....other than that freedom of speech at its finest

[n0rmz0r]

if you don't want to see such sites, try installing some filtering software. simple.

[ddarz]

Most of the pictures are ok, they show some cool gear and action. You dont see any blood just some wounded soldiers but the pictures that werent nice were thr ones of the local population through they seemed to be getting along quite well with the russians.
I still remember the footage from one of the american "Smart and accurate" bombings which looked to me more like WW2 carpet bombing that destroyed the hotel that the foreign journalist's were staying, in front of the cameras the pulled a severed leg out of the rubble, the a smashed head and some other body parts. :-\
And they call the rest of the world pointless killers.
p.s. No offence

[LimeCordial]

thats why britain shouldnt be in any invasion of iraq, the americans feel so righteous so why dont they do it themselves? and they'll just bomb out troops.   :-\

[mikeb]

Why do these arguments always kick off?

We're all friends here.  Besides I think saying things like we Americans/British helped you do X or whatever is completely beyond your right to do so.  If neither of you have been involved in a conflict fighting for the other then shut up.  

Even if you have, I very much doubt that you fought in WW2 of the Falklands so there is no way you can throw these accusations around, and at the same time proudly add yourself to the group of people that risked their lives to do the other a favour.

A bit of patriotism is fine but shouldn't lead to insulting the other, especially in a nice, friendly forum like this.

Now kiss and make up   (before daddy gets angry....)

[SEAL84]

Fine.  

Sorry for the flaming.

While I haven't been in the armed forces, almost every male member of my family has...that's why I feel the way I do about my country.  I immediately fly into a rage when someone takes shots at MY home, as I'm sure anybody would if someone started giving their expert analysis of why "your country sucks."

Lesson learned - don't post stuff that's just going to piss people off and start wars.

[rageman]

I here what ya saying mikeb, i don't like "patriotism" being rammed down my throat.  Apalogies accepted, I hope we all learned something this day.

And for those brits with tele's "I feel a lot of love in this room today"

[SEAL84]

Alright.

I have a reputation for doing this, so don't take it personally   :-X

[Slik]

*cough* Vietnam *cough*

[SEAL84]

Okay...Slik...why?

We just ended this (and my uncle was WIA in Vietnam).

[Slik]

so what happened there?

whats stopped u from winning?

please tell me

[mikeb]

"Slik".... not exactly.

Why don't you wait till OFPEC decides to put a OTD board up before wasting everyone's time with stuff you know nothing about.  Of course I've been told that admittance will be very selective so you'd better clean up your act.

I'm British, I was even an officer in the army for a while and I was very proud for it.  But I still manage to resist the need to say stuff like that especially if it's obviously starting to annoy someone.  Even if you're being simply a little playful, just try to pick your moments and your targets.

So stop it, you're making me behave like a PC diplomat!

[rageman]

now now slik, dont go fanning the embers  :-X

[Slik]

Right its not playful its a fair enough question in my eyes, i just get the impression that this chap knows alot about it, and also that the old yankee boys are damn clever so i thought he might shed some light on to my question

[SEAL84]

Don't goad me...

*removing other posts from previous page*

[UK_SKA_RULES]

I thought this thread was about chechnya pictures

[spanair55]

OMG!! ogrish.com is fu**ing shit!!! :-\

How can they show cutting a head with an axe!!

I wish the closed that site and anyother like it!!!!!!!

[ddarz]

I am sorry for my outbreak
but i am not new to armed conflict... muff said... ok i will give you a hint... my grandfather was fighting germans before he was twenty.
Anyway sorry for sparking up

[Thud]

Why does one in three threads become a flame-war for no obvious reason. I never understood what add-ons had to do with politics and patriotism. Stay on topic so the mods don't have to step in each time, these people have lives too, you know.

BTW nice one Slik, flame war over and you come in and reignite it, m*ron...

[OCOM_LMLVLM]

someone should make some modern russian soldiers........

[NoRSu]

Try UCE's Russian Federation addons .

[OCOM_LMLVLM]

I have all UCE's addons ;D,but theyr just the old retextured models.... :-\  

[Spetsgruppa Alfa]

Yeah we need new models. Would it be possible to import the russian soldiers from Ghost Recon into ofp? They really did a good job on the russians.

[CrunchyFrog]

I know Ebud tried some time ago....

And it was almost impossible.

[OCOM_LMLVLM]

I think someone from russian army mod , have imported teh GR soldiers into ofp  

[PFC_Mike]

Where might I find UCE's addons?

OFPEC is *still* down.

[UK_SKA_RULES]

Where might I find UCE's addons?

OFPEC is *still* down.

http://flashpoint.xaos.ru/jjsoini/

[Norfolk]

UCE quit making addons though, very sad loss.  :'(

Slik, to answer your question. What stopped us from "winning" was outside nations acting as soldiers (Russian pilots, Chinese soldiers) in NV uniforms, when you have millions of people against a force of 500,000 that is spread all across an entire country, it makes it rather difficult to ever end a war, also militarily we WERE winning, just without public support politcally we were losing and quite honestly you win votes elections when people like what your doing and people didn't like what the president was doing. Thus the 1973 cease fire agreement in which NVA, South Vietnamese army and the United States stopped the war. After the U.S. withdrawel, U.S. forces promised South Vietnam aid in the event of NVA forces beginning their assault once again, this promise was broken by U.S. forces and the NVA took this chance to attack the south once again, and with U.S. forces gone, the possibility of victory could finally happen for them. South Vietnam fell in 1975, 2 years after the U.S. withdrawel. So technically, we didn't lose, South Vietnam did and it was already said by a NVA Colonel during the Tet Offensive: "Until the Marines left, we couldn't take that city" and a quote from a Vietnamese lady "We won Vietnam... we won. Not militarily, but spiritualy. We are losing that now, but we will win it back again" in a interview with a British reporter. Now please don't flame Americans about Vietnam anymore or misguided bombs because first of all, there is no such things as a smart bomb. If it kills, what is so smart about it. Second, we could mention things your country has lost violently in (The British-Afghanistan War where an entire British army disappeared from a force using spears.)

Please note this isn't a flame, but ending his question and me simply asking him and if possible others to drop this anti-American thoughts, because if it's Bush your so angry about, we don't like him much either. A matter of fact, many of us didn't even vote for him and Gore won the popular vote.

So let's just stick to the electronic war which is OFP, because OFP is where you will find the smart bombs, because nobody actually dies.