OFP gaming style ?

[gambla]

maybe it's not a brand new question, but which way do you play OFP ?
e.g., which point of view: only 1st-person, sometimes the back-view, never or always 3rd person ? after finishing the GOTY-edition, i then felt to have to play in veteran-mode, you ? do you use any save-tools ? what about your personal standard-tactics (e.g. infantry) ? i've read of this unpopular so called "camper-style" in the clan-scene... i just can say that i love playing ofp as realistic as possible. (btw, didn't find a better forum to post this)

[Uldics]

As much as possible 1st person, no crosshair, no tags, no GPS, no save tools. SVD + RPG + some light, but fast vehicle. It is the best game ever because of these things, which forces you to think tactical and not cheetical.

[Artak]

(btw, didn't find a better forum to post this)

Means that there propably isn't any suitable board in this forum to post it in

When in combat, 1st person, and when not, 3rd person. I must admit that the less helpers as crosshair and gps and such are used, the better the athmosphere is. However, my playing consists much of beta testing the same missions over and over again and reviewing and that sort of gaming, so easy playability often goes ahead of great athmosphere and realism.

[gambla]

ok, like myself, 1st person is the must for realism and suspense, but i use 3rd person for driving, windscreens are too dirty... with "tags", do you mean the icons of units on the map (cadet-mode) ? i wonder, which weapons are preferred, if you can choose. i love the sniper-rifles, but i found a lot missions were to easy then.  

@artak: you could be right, but i'm not quite sure  
oh, never thought of trying w/o crosshairs ?   this thread yet is a success!

[PsyWarrior]

Greets,

3rd person infantry, only when not in combat. 1st person/ weapon view for combat. 3rd person for vehicles, most of the time. Somtimes drive jeeps in 1st person. Weapon view most of the time when aiming in vehicles.

Preferred roles: Infantry commander, sniper, fighter pilot, chopper pilot... since BETA testing Project MCAR, Missile Launching TOW HUMMWV gunner/ driver

Sometimes, armour commander/ gunner (if the mission is good).

Prefered Weapons: Anything with a scope: stock weapons: M21, SVD, Steyr, G36. Addons: Been using the BAS M4s a lot recently.
Always bring a LAW with me, if the mission allows it. I just don't trust the accuracy of my AT soldiers...

Sniper rifle/ LAW or Scoped rifle/ LAW (for closer range combat). Always my weapons of choice.

Play as much as is possible w/o tags (the text things that appear over friendly/ enemy units), auto guiding AT etc. What's the point of OFP, if not for the realism, atmosphere and suspense (especially as a sniper, or in an ambush). Yet OFP still manages to find that fine line between 'realism' and 'playability'. Well done to BIS, I say... ;D

-Supr. Cmdr. PsyWarrior
-Psychic Productions

[Dubieman]

Yeah I agree totally. I'm so used to weapons reticules and aim helpers damn can't think of what you call it...

Anyways I just started using vet mode as I really never paid attention to it before. And I've found not having any of that stuff enabled is challenging and fun. I guess after a time you get so good that you know where to aim in 1st person without the weapons view. No crosshairs (thats it!) was weird the first time but I'm getting better...

Any vehicles I prefer 3rd person because I get a better pericpial view so I dont get "flat" tires from bumping a tree to much.
I use 1st person for combat and peace time mostly unless I'm straining to see over that hill so the guy doesn't surprise me.

Stupid Q: What would 2nd person view be like?

EDIT: GRK's fav weapon list

M21
RPG (rpgs don't fall as fast as laws do when going long distance)
Glock silenced
binocualrs
NVs

other favs
SVD Dragunov
AA stinger
FFARs: cant get enough of those Mi17 rocket pods!
XM-177E2: good for multi, small recoil, accurate as M16 and has an auto + nice sound
UZI: lives up to its showings in other games very well, gets 32 bullets out quicker then you can say OPERATION FLASHPOINT

G36a:good for everything, all firing modes + scope
Steyr: Nice compact weapon, auto, cool scope =get guy in little circle and boom!, sounds cool
S&W: most poerful handgun out there, cool recoil effect, sound, gives you an old west feel

There you go..... ;D

[gambla]

@psywarrior: yes, better always bring a LAW yourself, BMPs were often a dead end for my assaults    and i agree, the AI of the AT-soldiers is to be improoved dramatically, they too often only have one shot with the LAW and are out of the game  :-\
thanks for explaining the "tags", i disabled them (don't know if it's s default disabled in vet-mode right now) -
nothing to add, that's what OFP is all about. i bought OFP by luck as low-price version in a mega-store. when i started playing, i was so impressed and fascinated by it's realism and thrilling suspense just to survive. as i read in the www: "shooter-players, don't play OFP, you won't survive"  ;D

@Killa: killed a lot of cars myself  :-\ - 2nd-person-view ? not sure if it really exists, could be this "bird-perspective" / top-view, if you know this expression ?
- thanks for your comments -

[Dubieman]

All I know from english is that 1st person is like a first hand account as if the guy were right there talking to you so that makes sense as you are seeing it and feeling it through the players eyes.

Third person is like a narrator who is all knowing.

I forgot what second person is....
A narrator who doesn't know everything? :-\

What are tags?
Is it when you point your cross hairs or whatever at a soldier and it say law guy?

[dmakatra]

I shift a lot between 1st and 3rd. A lot. It doesn't got one minute of OFP without shifting. I find both very usefull. I allways drive stuff in 3rd though, not inlcuded air stuff.

Play vet. Crosshair on, find it hard to turn the view since OFP doesn't use the standard where-you-look-is-the-middle-of-the-screen thingy.

Quite aggressive though tactical player. I'm the first one in the battlefield and I'm the one who allways run out of ammo, which brings me into my gear:

Favorite Gear: M21, 4 mags + 3 LAWs. Usually runs out of M21 ammo due to my aggressive style of play so either I pack a guy in my squad with a G36 that I can take later on or I put some spare mags on another loon of my squad. BTW, I can hit a fly on 1000 m distance with a LAW.

I find my self as a good player since I blend my aiming skills with my tactical mind good enough. No one has beaten my score in Maccas Impossible Mission yet so I just have to own.

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:

[Dubieman]

Either you are a real big boaster and bragger or you live, breath, and eat OFP.

j/k

I don't like playing with no crosshairs cause of what armstrong says up there but for one more reason too.
I haven't shot a real rifle but had a few paintgun fights and you dont need crosshairs there cause you have an idea of where you are aiming cause its in your hands. Like its a part of you....
I may sound crazy but with a mouse and a com screen its jus not the same as having that rifle in your hand as if it was an extension of you....

I'll stick with crosshairs.

[dmakatra]

or you live, breath, and eat OFP.

Correct. Though I have been infested by a Call of Duty germ the last couple of months.

:beat: *Gets Sick* :beat:

[gambla]

@armstrong: do you think that your playing style really matches with OFP, sounds more like the ego-shooter-style ? and the M21 wouldnÂ't be the right weapon for this style too, i think. but thats exactly what i was interested in, so please dont mind...
whats that mission by macca you mentioned ? would like to give a try sometime, or is it MP ?  

@killa: that s right, the missing feeling of things is one very import thing in games / sims. same with the racing sims, you just don`t have that feeling for the car, street and speed as driving in real life.

[dmakatra]

@ Gambla: Just 'cause I play aggressive doesn't mean I play like a noob. And here it is: http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=23;action=display;threadid=11801

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:

[Dubieman]

i'll give that mission a try but the screen on my com just got moved so I'm at a weird angle like at a cubicle. I'm used to straight ahead...
I'm not gonna play well for a while until the office is finished where the com should go.

I think LAWs, and RPGs are very accurate in OFP, too accurate?

Just line the vertical line up and comensate for distance with the horizontil lines.

[gambla]

@armstrong: i dont know what a noob is, i`m really interested in the different styles, and,  please dont mind !  
can i play this mission as SP ? would like to try it ?  

i was really bad in using anti-tank weapons, but with some practice its going
well now... but T80s can take a lot i think  :'(

[Gooner861]

Those T-80's are the most frustrating things to blow up!!!!!!!!! By the time u have fired a missile at it turns round and u have u run ur arse off to get away frm it.

[gambla]

oh yeah, the reaction of T80s is not realistic, but i`ve never been a tank commander in real life, so...

[macguba]

I suppose second person view would be seeing what the number 2 in your squad could see, but playing yourself.   Or, having the driver's view when you were actually the gunner.

First person - I
Second person - you
Third person - him

Noob = newbie = beginner = person new to something.

I always play Vet, stick to first person as much as possible.   Basically never use 3rd person except when driving vehicles, though I do use Command view sometimes.    Tanks I play as gunner.      I find G36 is the best all round weapon.    (If only the M21 fired burst ...)    It makes the game very hard if you switch off the crosshair so I keep it on.    

T80 feels tricky to kill because in fact the game gives you some slack in killing T72s, so T80s feel extra hard.    I did a spreadsheet on this once, it's in the Ed Depot somewhere.    (Edit: here)  You can take a T72 with one Carl Gustav or three LAWs, but the T80 requires two CGs or four LAWS, which is of course one more than you normally carry.     CG is always equal to two LAWs except against T72, so always carry LAWs unless you know you are against only T72s in which case take CGs.  

The game is entirely consistent in one respect:  if you fire a rocket you must take cover immediately, or you die.    It is a bit fierce I find, but I take the game designer's point.

The famous Un-Impossible Mission is basically finished ... I just need to put the proper sound files in.    The latest, unpublished, version is much harder.     It's SP only at the moment, I'm not going to make a MP version but I'd be very happy if somebody converted it to Co-op.

[Dubieman]

Well macguba for me its a little different attacking tanks:

M113,M2A2, BMP, BMP2 = any rocket basically will kill it, or six+ grenades if absolutely needed.

M60,T72, T55 = Two laws or rpgs usually or one CG or At3

T80 = four laws (I'm not always sure cause I'm more concerned about taking cover then counting before that turret turns ;D) or two cgs or two At3s


M1A1 = not sure, I haven't faced abrams that much, I'd imagine four or maybe five if needed rpgs or laws
two cgs or two At3s


My tank strategy: Any apcs or weak tanks I go for instant kill with law or rpg, don't waste cg or At3

Any medium tanks, try and hit the turret first to disable the guns  then go about  your business unless you fell like blowing it up

MBTs: no strategy here really, aim for the turret if possible, otherwise unload as many rockets of any kind on it and use cover effectively.

:thumbsup:

[macguba]

Killing power:

LAW = RPG
Carl Gustav = AT4
2xLAW = 1xCG except against T72

Abrams takes 3 CG/AT4 or 6 LAW/RPG from the front or sides.    From the back it takes 7 LAWs, don't ask me why.  

Full details in the spreadsheet.

[Dubieman]

Yeah I took a look at your spread sheet when it came out, nice job.


I agree LAWs and RPGs are equal, I prefer RPGs,  they seem to have a longer range before diving or falling making it easier to target.

AT4 damn why was I saying AT3?!

The abrams seems to have the edge over the T80. Of course that can make up for the Mi24 having troop carrying abilities+ more ammo than the AH64. Did BIS do this to keep the sides equal? Cause I think they did or was it just the time period when american equipment and russian equipment was almost equal.

Anyways I dunno where you got three laws/rpgs to take out a T72 or M60? Takes two for me.

To drag this on when extended armor is on in cadet, does it apply to all tanks or ust the player's tank or allied tanks?