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BronzeEagle

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I remember one called the dirty dozen but don't remember the plot.   I think it was to recover some expensive painting looted during the war but without being detected.  
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Re:your favorite ww2 movies, reenacted in ofp- talk about them
« Reply #1 on: 21 Oct 2003, 04:20:36 »
cmon share your ww two ideas.  I can modernize them for ofp.  

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« Reply #2 on: 21 Oct 2003, 13:46:20 »
Yeah I seen dirty dozen a long time ago. Loads of cons sent to recover the art from a big german mansion. I'd like to do saving private ryan but there just aren't any islands out there that would make good scenes for all events. I was thinking of remaking a game called WW2GI from years ago for OFP. I still haven't d/l the inv1944 demo. has any1 got a link?

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« Reply #3 on: 25 Oct 2003, 09:37:33 »
how bout some of the attacks in "Band of Brothers" I really like the sneaky river crossing one where the guy tripps over his own grenade, 1 problem ofp doesnt have rivers.......DOES ANYONE FIND THIS ODD?

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« Reply #4 on: 25 Oct 2003, 13:06:29 »
I've never tried to make islands for OFP but NOgova and SEB Ia Drang islands have 1 river so it's not hard! ::)

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« Reply #5 on: 27 Oct 2003, 02:56:07 »
So the camp was basically fortified except for the river.  

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« Reply #6 on: 27 Oct 2003, 16:36:23 »
I love war movies where you see both sides of the conflict and each is dealt with seperately.  like "the Longest Day" and "tora, tora, tora" and to some extent "enemy at the gates".  Band of brothers i think is perfect for taking scenarios out of due to the variety of the battles.  what would be really good in a campaign though would be to track both sides of the conflict with the player as both, say, german and allied forces.

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« Reply #7 on: 27 Oct 2003, 20:27:02 »
Hey !

You all seem to agree that the plot of "Dirty Dozen" (with Charles Bronson and Yul Brunner, right ?) was to retrieve some work-of-art in some German mansion. Well, I've seen it lately, and as far as I could understand, the cons had been recruited to kill all major German officers having dinner in the said mansion.
Of course, the mission goes FUBAR (as Yul plays the role of a pervert), and the posse wind up inflaming officers and civilians in a basement.
This is OFP-relevant in that :
* the well-crafted plan becomes useless
* the FUBARITY of the mission is due to one of the squad members

If only one gifted mission-designer could come up with something like this !

Less off-topic, to me, "Saving Private Ryan" and "Band o' Bros" are the two WWII must-imitates. What has to be reproduced is the extreme violence of the combats.

And that ain't easy. :P

Catch you later,

Ig.
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« Reply #8 on: 28 Oct 2003, 01:48:28 »
Okay so the part about having to kill all the generals at a mansion seems easy enough to do.  It could be done with BAS rangers with a helicopter insertion and everything.  Retrieving items can be done if one has the scripts to pick up and take things and the script that enables a trigger to detect the presence of an object at a certain trigger.  I've seen both tutorials on this site before.

How about in classic ww2 movie plot fashion, the enemy plans on sending a plane that looks american to an american base and has it full of explosives for one suicidal pilot.  That plane is disguised as a U.S. Space Shuttle and headed for the space station.  The conspiracy is found out and the launchpad is located.  The mission is to blow up the aircraft before takeoff.      
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« Reply #9 on: 28 Oct 2003, 17:28:27 »
Band of Brothers, all time favourite. Brilliant. And the ideas would be great for an OFP mission too, like the siege of Baston.

Superb acting, visual (as in blood and bones sticking out), slick presentation, and inspiring, would make for some really tense moments on OFP, if converted well enugh.

BronzeEagle

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« Reply #10 on: 28 Oct 2003, 17:56:44 »
you guys don't even mention the scenarios.  

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« Reply #11 on: 06 Nov 2003, 23:08:09 »
Southern Comfort..

Maybe someone with some script knowledge can do this..

Imagine the thrills in that creepy athmosphere!

Johan

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« Reply #12 on: 07 Nov 2003, 12:35:47 »
Sorry guys i thing Band of Brothers suck bigtime hueee its sooo bad gives me the creeps. Rambo americans running into ss like they are no match at all, in reality it was the other way around. Beaten germans with no hope attacking, Yankees outnumberd.

Now here is something to base a mission on
The German drive into Stalingrad(Movie: Stalingrad)
The finnish squad getting through the russion defense line(Movie: Ambush)

//Just Albin oppinion




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« Reply #13 on: 08 Nov 2003, 17:31:38 »
Quote from:  Rambo americans running into ss like they are no match at all, in reality it was the other way around. Beaten germans with no hope attacking, Yankees outnumberd.
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Band of Brothers are a very close recreation of what really happend , if you dig deeper into the facts you will find out that the real soldiers infact did tell the instructors of the movie what happent, you can c this at each episode begining where the soldiers tell the storie among other still living Capt Winters , Guarnee , Popye , and the rest of the Easy company .

The things you c in the movie is not fiction its avery close autentic portrait .

No matter how you turn it , the us did win the war and they did run straight into the enemy with very high cassultie rates ( infact the highest in the intire war for one company !) . exsample in the episode where Liutenant Spiers cross the dutch town twice passing the german ss troops are real and did take place its not fiction at all .

The Germans did fight brave but for a non justice curse and for an insane leadership they where bound to loose the SS cut not make a diffrence they jst exstende the war a few months because they where fanatics who refused to c that the war was lost at Stalingrad and certainly after D-day .

Therfor is BOB a real good movie and also a waste ideas for many good missions .

Never forget the scarifices the US did 2 times in last century to save Europe from phykopatic leaders ,never forget that they fought for the democracy we have today ,and they still defend it this very minute against people who want to remove it !

The Germans where war criminals , the SS  was the worst -  they lost , remmber ?


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« Reply #14 on: 09 Nov 2003, 11:10:23 »
Yes the US fighting for your Personal freedom and free speech....unless you arab or muslim >:(

No doubt the German propaganda machine was busy saying what the monster US soldiers would do when they got hold of German women and children, no wonder the Germans fought on.

And please dont generalise Germans with Nazis; Nazis were war criminals, Germans werent.

And i dont think the war was lost at D-Day, i think if things had gone differently (ie, say at pegasus bridge), D-day could have collapsed a few days after.

Oh and BOB may be a good movie, but thats just what it is, a movie. IE not real.

Oh btw, the 1st world war wasnt about fighting against a psychopathic leader, and the US hardly had any combat involvement compared to the other sides. It probably couldnt have been won without US financial aid, but....

Im not supporting either Albin (hes too extreme in favour of Germans), or Ryan (hes naive to think 1)BOB is a real portrait of war and 2) The US freed Europe from "phykopatic " (its spelled psychopathic) leaders 2 times, and is fighting to keep the world free of evil. The US only fights when its interests and security are threatend, but always under the guise of fighting evil....if thats not true, then why did the US stand by during the Hungarian Uprising of 1954 , why did the US not help stop the taliban in Afganistan before sept 11th?) in this, they are both abit one sided. At least albin admits its only his opinion. As is the above
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« Reply #15 on: 09 Nov 2003, 13:38:58 »
I'm afraid things are going a bit haywire here !

This thread is about ww2 movies which we could use in OFP missions, and that's it ! >:(
Mind you, personal and manichean interpretations of one of the darkest and most complicated periods of history sound dubious to me. Thank whoever you want, the Nazis lost, and that's what matters most.

Back to the topic, what I find interesting in "Private Ryan" and "Band o' Brothers" is once again the CHAOTIC and DIRTY aspect of combat. The thing I like least in OFP and missions made is the clean, orderly, aseptised way the plots are handled.
Go there, activate such trigger, such thing happens, it's all so unlikely ! Think about it, triggers activating when east or west is no longer present in the area are totally surrealistic ! On the field, how are you even supposed to know that the enemy has actually retreated ? Why shouldn't there be anyone hiding left, just as snipers did in ww2 ?
Things are always out of control to some extent, and I think the biggest challenge for a mission-maker is to inject chaos in their projects.  That's why I would like to see BOB or PR reenacted in ww2 missions.

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« Reply #16 on: 09 Nov 2003, 19:07:17 »
<quote>
"Okay so the part about having to kill all the generals at a mansion seems easy enough to do.  It could be done with BAS rangers with a helicopter insertion and everything."

and

"That plane is disguised as a U.S. Space Shuttle and headed for the space station.  The conspiracy is found out and the launchpad is located.  The mission is to blow up the aircraft before takeoff."
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please tell me you're kidding
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« Reply #17 on: 10 Nov 2003, 11:44:49 »
Oh, I dunno... I reckon a helicopter disguised as a space shuttle, carrying a full company of SAS Stormtroopers seems like a pretty neat idea... ;D


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« Reply #18 on: 13 Nov 2003, 22:31:41 »

You all seem to agree that the plot of "Dirty Dozen" (with Charles Bronson and Yul Brunner, right ?) was to retrieve some work-of-art in some German mansion. Well, I've seen it lately, and as far as I could understand, the cons had been recruited to kill all major German officers having dinner in the said mansion.
Of course, the mission goes FUBAR (as Yul plays the role of a pervert), and the posse wind up inflaming officers and



not that it matters but i believe that was telly savalas that screwed it up(the pervert)

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« Reply #19 on: 17 Nov 2003, 19:37:17 »
okay so scrap the idea about the mcdonalds truck turning into a space shuttle.  

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« Reply #20 on: 21 Nov 2003, 01:05:00 »
how bout some of the attacks in "Band of Brothers" I really like the sneaky river crossing one where the guy tripps over his own grenade, 1 problem ofp doesnt have rivers.......DOES ANYONE FIND THIS ODD?
I liked BoB... It was good/clever/scarey....
It was a while a go, I can't remeber much that happened, I remeber that river crossing, where one guy throws a greande though a windows, waits and the greande seems like a dud.. So he runs in, but it goes of, he starts screaming (Under standably, though), and is worked on my a mdeic for most of the time after.. I can't remeber if he survived...
It would be not to hard (There are a lot of islands already made...) and theres boats etc made.. Just put them together..

Sorry if this has been discused in this thread.. I don't really haev the time to read all the pages....

Another idea..  Kelly Heros... With the gold being stored in a bank... DOn't know if it would translate in to the game that well, though...?

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« Reply #21 on: 25 Nov 2003, 11:29:44 »
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The US only fights when its interests and security are threatend

Give me one example of a nation ever doing otherwise.

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then why did the US stand by during the Hungarian Uprising of 1954 , why did the US not help stop the taliban in Afganistan before sept 11th

The US (and the UK, and the rest of the Western world) stood by during the Hungarian Uprising because if they had intervened, the USSR would have nuked Paris, London, and other major cities. At the time, the USSR had missles with longer ranges than the rest of us had. Basically, we had no choice but to stand by, or else witness the slaughter of millions of innocents.

The US didn't stop the Taliban during the 1980's Afgan war because the Taliban were fighting the Soviets. In fact, we helped the Taliban, by supplying them weapons (some of which were used against us in 2002) and training (that's when we trained Bin Laden, I believe). This may seem horrible, but remember the saying: "my enemy's enemy is my best friend". At the time, the USSR was the greater evil. Now after that, why didn't we take out the Taliban? Good question; if we had, we might have prevented 9/11. Bush the 1st didn't do much, and all Clinton ever did was blow up some tents and an asprin factory. I'm not sure if Bush II would have done much if 9/11 hadn't occured, but at least he DID do something after that.


Sorry for the diversion, but I do have a WWII suggestion: anybody remember that episode of "The Simpsons" with the "Hellfish Bonanza"? How about a mission based on that? I'm actually only half joking, because it isn't a half bad plot, really  8)
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« Reply #22 on: 04 Dec 2003, 19:56:37 »
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Good question; if we had, we might have prevented 9/11.

Actually, no, the Taliban didn't orchestrate that attack, it was Al Qaeda. Or so we think. Just thought I'd keep you right.

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No matter how you turn it , the us did win the war and they did run straight into the enemy with very high cassultie rates ( infact the highest in the intire war for one company !) .

The Russians won the war more than the Americans. D-Day only really accelerated things. And methinks the Russians had far higher casualty rates. Yet nobody seems to acknowledge their massive sacrifices... tens of millions dead and everyone says the US won the war for us all? Did you know that at the time of the D-Day landings (bearing in mind the Germans knew an invasion was imminent) there were something like 10x the amount of German troops in the East compared to the West? Not that the Americans didn't help, of course, but just remember that there was a war in the East as well.

I think doing a Stalingrad based mission would be impossible - at least, if you were aiming for realism. You can't replicate that sort of non-stop close fighting between tens of thousands of troops. And Flashpoint isn't optimized for close range battles.

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« Reply #23 on: 04 Dec 2003, 21:04:38 »
*cough* ...

Keep the politics for IM/email, guys.

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