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Addons & Mods Depot => OFP - Addons & Mods Beta Testing => Topic started by: Tigershark on 28 Oct 2002, 06:25:11
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With a huge effort last week from SelectThis we have managed to get this puppy ready. Release date is most likely tomorrow (I'm going through last minute testing tonight).
A word on the release. ST, myself and ofpeditor have tested this extensively. We think we have caught everything. But there will be a few bugs and other things we may improve upon and refine which means there will be a version 2 release.
In particular we have created one helo that might be technically known as a MELB. But it lacks a 6 bladed rotor and 4 bladed tail rotor. However we will continue to refine these over time.
Another discussion point may be the mounted Mp5 we incorporated. We discussed this and during playtesting we found the MH6 a little vulnerable. So we added a Mp5 mounted variant to simulate the copilot being able to fire out the window.
This is not strictly realistic or standard procedure (my highly credible sources tell me this was a unique situation that occured during Somalia and not standard practice) but for gameplay purposes this may work?@due to the helo being so vulnerable. We are looking for peoples opinions on it after they playtest it for themselves.
However, this is a great foundation for us to build upon and we want to share our efforts with the community. This will be our first release ever....so we really wanted to get it right. I think the wait will be worth it and this will be the Littlebird that sets the standard in the community. It's the little things that count.
From the readme:
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This addon should work with both OFP and OFP:Resistance.
ADDED UNITS:
Name - classname -weapon/magazine name
MH6 - bas_mh6-unarmed
MH6 Armed - bas_mh6a-wpn:bashkmounted/mag: bashkmounted
AH6 Gunship - bas_ah6j-wpn: basM134MiniGun, baszuni14/mag: basM134MiniGun, baszuni14
AH6 Multi Purpose - bas_ah6mp-wpn:basM134MiniGun, baszuni7, basah6helllauncher/mag: basM134MiniGun, baszuni7, basah6helllauncher
MD500D TOW - bas_md500dtow-wpn: basah6towlauncher/mag: basah6towlauncher
SOAR Pilot - bassoarpilot-Wpn: HK, NVGoggles/Mags: HK, handgrenades
NOTE: SOAR Pilot is ALL NEW MODEL. It is not the SOAR pilot included with the TJP DAP and MH-47E. This PBO will also be used by future 160th SOAR helos like the MH-60L and MH-47E
Package will be aroun 5mg-6mg zipped.
Get ready to go Ballistic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Forgot to mention
The new units will be available under a custom vehicle class called BAS Special Ops - Vehicles
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tiger,
sent you an IM concerning the new pilot model, please check it out.
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is the pilot in a desert colour uniform this time???
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Why not make a pilot in Desert and Woodland? ;)
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I am sure when they create their US Special Forces units, they will make different camos for all the men. Correct me if I am wrong.
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why is the mp5 silenced?
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probably because its the HK model from the game
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imo it shouldnt be silenced.
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well, the SOAR pilots have silenced MP5's so it looks like they are using their personal guns...
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The Mp5 version will indeed use a supressed gun. I have recoded it so it is the old tjp mp5 from our previous addons. Why didn't I do a non-silenced version?
couple of reasons....
1) as Evis said the Mp5 "mounted" on the MH6 is meant to simulate the co-pilot grabbing his personal weapon and shooting out the door.
2) The pilots are using the suppressed Mp3 with single, burst and auto mode. The MH6 "mounted" only has auto as the AI has problems deciding what fire mode to use- ie it works better just having the auto mode.
3) I don't have the time to remodel a non-supressed HK model to use on the LBs and pilots.. plus add muzzle flashes etc to everything (the nam pack needs to be finished sometime this century)
anyway, there is a unarmed version of the MH6 if you think the MP5 is unrealistic. :)
SelectThis
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I am sure when they create their US Special Forces units, they will make different camos for all the men. Correct me if I am wrong.
yes there will be different camos on the (seal based) Delta Force for BAS that im gonna make
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I didn't think the mp5 was unrealistic I just had questions about it being silenced, thanks for answering those. I await the release :D
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it doesn't work with 1.75? argh
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it doesn't work with 1.75? argh
Really? ???
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has it been released yet? Because on www.ofp-zone.de, they have a link for download and say its been released. However the download doesn't work? Where else can I get it?
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its not meant to be out for download yet, gunship was not supposed to release them, they wont work for 1.75 and under yet as all the beta testers have 1.85, its a simple fix to make them in West>Air instead of West>BAS helo's(etc), the download link has been removed from ofp-zone.de, there was also a link to the file on the ballistics server in some places but that no longer works, youll just have to wait until we finally do release them :)
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I had dl them on the link you gave on Official BIS forums Evis but you guys say it is not mentioned to be released yet I had even not installed yet I remove it and wait for official release of BAS Team damn I thought there was some thing wrong cause I looked on BAS page and no dl link has someone hacked the file from BAS page Evis cause you sayed it was on BAS server since saturday ???
Hope it will be released Today(29-10-2002)and than not beta but full version ;)
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i dont know whats happened, i have no idea how gunship got the link...unless tigershark gave it to him to prepare for the release, but anyway as i said on the official forums, the proper versions will be up soon with support for 1.75 and under (it should work with all ofp versions), unfortunately this release was kinda sprung on stt so he has a lot of work all of a sudden :(
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LB's are released....go an' download 'em lads :) :) :) :)
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these things are cool man
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Those things ROCK :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: anyway one suggestion, i think the MP5 should only be able to fire in a 90 degree angle as it looks a little odd when your shooting the gun 180 degrees from the way the pilots facing.
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downloaded the v1.46 version, but when I fire up Flashpoint the helos wont show up in the editor.
I checked under West/Air, Empty/Air and Resistance Air but got nothin'. so what's up?
forgive me if I'm a complete moron and missed something obvious on the site/read me file
thx for taking the time
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I have the same prob with 1.75??? it says in the readme they r under BAS Special Ops - Vehicles but i dont see that anywhere
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i found it, if you open your addons folder there will be annother folder called documents and settings keep going through that folder and the pbo's will be in there. god knows why it created that folder for but nevermind
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The demo mission won't load for me, I get a message,
missing addons: bas_mh6, bas_soar
this happened to anyone else. I'm running 1.85.
Cheers.
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I saw that too Kev, but it didn't make any difference... they still wont show up
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I just now fixed the demo mission, the problem being that it was finished and pboed with the addon version from yesterday, before the final touches such as the bas_mh6185.pbo were added, so the game couldn't recognize the addon.
It is fully functional now, sorry for any trouble. Here is a temp link until its uploaded to bas site.
Music Version - http://216.169.106.21/yb3-33/flash/bas/bas_cayuse_music.zip (http://216.169.106.21/yb3-33/flash/bas/bas_cayuse_music.zip)
No Music Version - http://216.169.106.21/yb3-33/flash/bas/bas_cayuse_nomusic.zip (http://216.169.106.21/yb3-33/flash/bas/bas_cayuse_nomusic.zip)
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The mission might not work because of the changes I made to the addon just before release. In order to make it compatable with 1.46 and 1.75 I split the pbos up, moving the config.cpps into a seperate addon.
So the mission would be looking for a vehicle defined in bas_soar when in fact it is now in bas_soar185.
--edit--
see above post for the fixed versions.. fast work Nagual!
SelectThis
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Yep, works now. And I gotta say, really nice mission. Great work.
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You guy's did a really great job with the LBs and the pilot.
The only problems I have are:
1)You can't kill the passengers on the MH6
2)The GatlingGun Needs to be louder, so when you fire it, you jump out of your seat and say OH S@#T! :o
Other than that you BAS did a Great Job
Can't wait for your other Choppers.
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Here's a little mission for using the armed variants of the littlebirds. This was not developed as a full demo mission, it's just a basic scenario to do some MP flying and gunning (8 player coop).
http://216.169.106.21/yb3-33/flash/bas/ArmedLB.zip (http://216.169.106.21/yb3-33/flash/bas/ArmedLB.zip)
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has anyone else got my problem (the choppers wont show up in the editor)? I'm running 1.46...
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Setzer...re: sideboard passengers not being hit.. damnit, I don't know how this happened, in all beta models I made they were definitely targetable...now I check my models in o2 and the proxies for them have disappeared from the fire geo...I have no idea how that happened :(
This will be fixed in a future update.
SelectThis
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tnlvsn try reading the whole post b4 asking as its mentiond and solved
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a) I read the whole thread
b) It didn't solve my problem (I mentioned that in an earlier post)
so I'm just asking if anyone got any other ideas that could help ascertain what's causing the problem
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I had that problem in 1.85, but after a few minuts meessing with some other addons in the editor BAS spec ops choopers menu suddenly appeared , but hey great choppers.
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SelectThis: You did a great job anyway :) I'm sure you can fix it. In the mean time I'll be having fun with those choppers.
Setzer
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I noticed the SOAR pilots carried the US Special Forces patch (The sword with three lightning bolts through). Anyway, aren't they supposed to carry a "Special Forces" tab in addition to the "Airborne" tab if they carry this patch?
Correct me if wrong...
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Great Job on the LB's
Just one question. Aren't the TOW's supposed to be guided?? Just like on the bradley. Now its only like a bigger FFAR.
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I had that problem in 1.85, but after a few minuts meessing with some other addons in the editor BAS spec ops choopers menu suddenly appeared , but hey great choppers.
Can you explain what you exactly did there?
Got the same problem with 1.46
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GREAT models! others can go home if you have this :) Im really anxious to see all the other planned choppers from you guys!
but I have a few comments to make:
1. the minigun sound is not that great... sounds like a spraycan to me, no?
2. if you stand behind the choppers and look at the tail rotor, its like they have 4 blades, because objects behind the 2 not-visible rotors vanish.
3. why not make the exhaust black/dirty? it should be black inside the pipe from all those exhaust gases.
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RE: To pilots patches...and uniforms.
The patches on the pilots uniforms is the SOCOM patch(Special Operations Command). The patch is modeled after the 1st Special Service Force patch of WW2. TF 160 is not part of Special Forces (Green Berets). Special Forces is its own command and have there own patch (dagger with 3 lighting bolts). If you are special forces qualified (completed the Q course, then you can wear the special forces tab). TF 160 pilots do not wear patches when they are on ops, im sure you guys know why or can at least figure it out. BAS put the patches on the uniforms for the "coolness" effect.
BAS, great job and keep up the good work.
RLTW
Remington
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I have version 1.46 without Red Hammer or Resistence will it work
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Great birds!! i ve tried playing the mission form ure website except i dont know where to get the "sebremington" addon from?
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Also, when i load up the mission it says cannot find bas_mh6 and bas_soar addons. ive already put the helos in my res/addons folder.
;D ;D
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I'm having the same problem as tnlvsn. Any suggestions?
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1. the minigun sound is not that great... sounds like a spraycan to me, no?
a couple of people have said this but the actual M134 isnt that loud, its hard to recreate the actual sound in ofp but it isnt that loud, i cant describe the sound exactly but fromtv documentry's etc it sounds like a very quiet extremely fast whirring, if youve ever played DF:BHD the m134 on there shows that it should be 'around' this type of sound, theirs doesnt seem too accurate to me but its close enough, its definately not a scarily loud gun
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Great Job on the LB's
Just one question. Aren't the TOW's supposed to be guided?? Just like on the bradley. Now its only like a bigger FFAR.
Just found out that theres a simalar problem with the hellfire's. they cant be locked to a target so they are also just like a big FFAR rocket
Are these two things something you forgot or is it the way you want???
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Great Job on the LB's
Just one question. Aren't the TOW's supposed to be guided?? Just like on the bradley. Now its only like a bigger FFAR.
Just found out that theres a simalar problem with the hellfire's. they cant be locked to a target so they are also just like a big FFAR rocket
Are these two things something you forgot or is it the way you want???
they both work well for me...
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er...they are guided in the earlier versions...i havent got the release versions yet (downloading now) anyone else have the release version and find the tows/hellfires to be non-guided?
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For info i have the 1.85 version download
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Both hellfire and tow version guide fine for me..I've been playin with em since I got back from class today..GREAT WORK BAS!!!
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re: a couple of people have said this but the actual M134 isnt that loud, its hard to recreate the actual sound in ofp but it isnt that loud, i cant describe the sound exactly but fromtv documentry's etc it sounds like a very quiet extremely fast whirring, if youve ever played DF:BHD the m134 on there shows that it should be 'around' this type of sound, theirs doesnt seem too accurate to me but its close enough, its definately not a scarily loud gun.
Ummm, the littlebirds guns are extreamly loud, the ones in DFBHD are not even close to the sound they make. Miniguns (M134s sound like a pager on vibraition mode going off on a wood table. But 100x louder.) I hope the BAS team will fix this in the future, but I know it will be hard to do.
BAS Keep up the good work
RLTW
Remingtion
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from all the times ive seen an M134/GAU-2B in video clips they are not that loud, i wouldnt think a major game like DF:BHD would be too far off the real thing its definately closer to what ive heard, and im sure ofpeditor would hasve told us if it was too wrong
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excellent work guys. the TOW works fine with my ver 1.85. and everything shows up in the editor. the minigun sound i'm gonna have to change out based on my own personal perference. i think i have something in my files that would fit it nicely. i attached the sound i'll be using (35 kb). 2 questions
1. i didn't know the miniguns had tracking ability, is this true? i thought they where a fixed mount.
2. when i'm the gunner in the mh-6 and point the mp5 at the ground to a 45 deg. angle or greater, the chopper takes damage. (this was done with the chopper not airborne) is there a way to fix this. i think it maybe an OFP engine flaw.
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I have a question about the A/h-6 Littlebird gunship, but I don't know if it has already been asked and replied to yet. Anyways, I wanted to ask whether the BAS team has implemented a rotating minigun for the A/h-6? Don't know if that would be possible to do or not, just thought it might add more of a realistic performance of the aircraft during close air-support.
-BA
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Nevermind the misile lock thing. Fixed the problem. Bought a new mouse about a week ago and it apparently change the key settings and i didnt notice before i installed the LB's. ;D
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Your right guys, I have no idea what I am talking about. I mean of course you guys know, you have seen movies, and MPEGs, and a big game like BHD cant possibly be wrong.
I mean who am I kidding I never rode in them, called CAS, and there brass has never fallen on top of my head during gun runs...I must have been dreaming.
Remington
RLTW
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seems like they don't work for v1.46
the same talk is going on over att opflashpoint.org
hope they fix it soon, I would really like to get going with these things.
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Ummm, yea, they dont work for 1.46, I understand you guys were kinda pressed into releasing them soon. Anyways, hope you guys can fix this minor problem, Im looking foward to playing with them, there one of my fav choppers!
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In regards to the m134 minigun sound:
This weapon's sound is extremely hard to duplicate. No game that I know how has so far perfectly depicted the sound that the weapon makes. I mentioned the sound to Tigershark in the first beta I tested with the miniguns and I made comments that I hope helped get it to it's current state, which is closer to the actual sound. Most people expect this to sound like the personal chaingun you see in 'Predator' per se, but you have to realize that producers want an action movie to have incredible mind-blowing sound, where as weapon developers of a chain gun like this care not about how it sounds, but just that the people on the recieving end will never hear it again once it comes by. A lot of the sound depends on your position relative to the weapon. Facing the front of the bird, you'd hear a definitive staccato sound, which is so incredibly fast that it's nearly impossible to mentally separate the individual shots being fired as though you were in a .50 cal. At a distance, the staccato disappears into a continuous "hhhummmmmmmmmmmmmmuhhh" with a metallic whine.
The sound, for simpliscity, is much like sticking your ear right next to the beating wings of a dragonfly, with the volume much higher. Add in a "pphhhhhhhhhhhh" sound, and a metallic ring, and you're getting the idea. Hard to explain, hard to duplicate, I'd have to say our LB minigun sound is good to go.
Tiger - I'll email you with information regarding sound, as well.
cheers mates, any other questions, comments, criticisms, feel free to ask as always...
ofpeditor
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Your right guys, I have no idea what I am talking about. I mean of course you guys know, you have seen movies, and MPEGs, and a big game like BHD cant possibly be wrong.
I mean who am I kidding I never rode in them, called CAS, and there brass has never fallen on top of my head during gun runs...I must have been dreaming.
Remington
RLTW
ballistics do have some contacts with people who have been close to M134's, ofpeditor works in ASAR and i think there are some other people only tigershark talks with, but the main problem is ofp's sound, it may sound really loud from outside/underneath but from behind/next to the guns this is as close as we could get it, we cant define sounds for when people switch to outside/far away, i cant find any links for a M134/GAU-2B atm, the best ive got is a vulcan to show how it wouldnt be 'that' loud http://www.valkyriearms.com/sounds/vulcan.au
also the people with the non appearing problem, are you sure you installed it right? and has anyone with 1.46/1.75 got this working?
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If you have 1.75 or UNDER you only supposed to put 2 of the pbos in the addon folder
i think its because in 1.85 it creates a new sub group thingy which cant be done under 1.85
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no, i think theres been a mistake made in the PBO's all 1.75 and under users will have to bear with us until STT can fix the problem :)
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Hey,
I'd like to try the demo mission for the LBs but where can I get sebremington from SebDeltaWeapons addon? I've looked around and could not find it....
thanks,
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man that mission is so cool even gots the music from BHD which was cool
theres one problum i do have with the mission tho the ai just stand there half the time even when they getin shot at
ur LBs are the best ones yet and no doubt ur black hawks will be to
realese them or u will die :gunman:
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If you cant find sebremington/sebdeltaweapons i just put it here:
http://216.169.106.21/yb3-33/flash/bas/SebDeltaWeapons.zip (http://216.169.106.21/yb3-33/flash/bas/SebDeltaWeapons.zip)
It is from Seb Delta Force v2, and i think it comes with some pavehawk downloads.
The remington was not actually used in the mission, it is built into the pavehawks that are used for CSAR, so it is technically needed to avoid the chance of addon errors.
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Can i just say what a complete cock up this has been, as far as im concerned you should have never of rushed the release just because somone posted a download for the lb's, and you should have double checked everything worked hunky dorey b4 the official release ,not only can the ppl with 1.75 or lower not use them but the demo mission is missing a file aswell, come on guys you are all well respected guys but this isnt good, take your time to get it sorted ie no stupid doc and set folders with all the downloads including the mission and getting the 1.75 and lower working.
Kevbaz
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Ive got 1.85 and put the addons in Res/addons folder. However, when i come to load the mission it says cannot open addons bas_mh6 and bas_soar.
??? ??? ???
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The littlebirds are great, I cannot wait for the improved version.
Two small bugs with the demo mission:
In the intro, the Gunship Littlebird is halfway off the roof for some reason, and sometimes, it just falls over and explodes.
In the actual mission, the choppers transporting the other Delta teams crash sometimes.
Anyway, this may not have been the smoothest release, but then again, we are setting the bar pretty high here. Also, there will be improved versions, so I am a happy duckling.
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wheeeee, those birds rock!
great job, BAS team! :thumbsup:
but there was one thing getting me mad:
whenever i flew pretty fast, descending at the same time, the nose of the chopper went straight down and crashed...
i couldnÂ't believe itÂ's a bug in your BAS addon, coz i experienced the same on the LB from drakkhen.
finally i tried a bit around: the original blackhawk worked fine, nothing would happen... then i did the same maneuver with the original oh58 and it was pretty close to the BAS- LB- crash.
i think thereÂ's gotta be kinda bug in 1.85 depending on the mass/ the weight of a chopper. :(
just wanted to let you guys know... if anyone experienced the same problem.
gonna write it in the official forum too, to let BIS know.
keep the nice work up, canÂ't wait to get more BAS stuff
-greetings pang
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I -REALLY- hate haviing to say this, because I never seem to have this problem with gettion an addon to run, but I'm unfortunately having the same problem... the addons are simply not there.
I extracted to my C:/Games/Operation Flashpoint/addons folder, located the folder-in-a-folder thing, and manually cut and pasted all four files ( 1.85 ) into the addons directory.
Started up OFP-Res; no Littlebirds?
'Kay... So maybe it should go in the "*"res/addons folder then... Run OFP-Res... and again no dice???
As I've said, I NEVER have problems getting addons to run, and I'm adding new ones everyday...
-sigh- Someone throw me a bone here... I'm clueless.
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I have version 1.46 so I haven't been able to use the choppers or play the demo mission but in their defense I've attempted missions with precision chopper landings and it is very difficult. The choppers never hit the same place twice so they're constantly missing their mark. That leads to a lot of crashes and mid air collisions.
Please fix the v 1.46 little birds.
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Can i just say what a complete cock up this has been, as far as im concerned you should have never of rushed the release just because somone posted a download for the lb's, and you should have double checked everything worked hunky dorey b4 the official release ,not only can the ppl with 1.75 or lower not use them but the demo mission is missing a file aswell, come on guys you are all well respected guys but this isnt good, take your time to get it sorted ie no stupid doc and set folders with all the downloads including the mission and getting the 1.75 and lower working.
Kevbaz
I found no problems apart from a disapearing act (Prolly to do with 1.85) but the release has been smoother than alot i have gone thru with addons/mods, what file is the demo mission missing? i got it to work 1st time, also i think they did not rush it cause someone posted a leaked version, it was that someone rleased it a little earlier than they where supposed to.
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I -REALLY- hate haviing to say this, because I never seem to have this problem with gettion an addon to run, but I'm unfortunately having the same problem... the addons are simply not there.
I extracted to my C:/Games/Operation Flashpoint/addons folder, located the folder-in-a-folder thing, and manually cut and pasted all four files ( 1.85 ) into the addons directory.
Started up OFP-Res; no Littlebirds?
'Kay... So maybe it should go in the "*"res/addons folder then... Run OFP-Res... and again no dice???
As I've said, I NEVER have problems getting addons to run, and I'm adding new ones everyday...
-sigh- Someone throw me a bone here... I'm clueless.
It should go in your res addon folder and its under
west>bas
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How do u beat the demo mission? Every time my squads little bird pilot and co-pilot get shot up and then the blackhawk comes and flys around for a little bit and stays in 1 spot instead of taking me to the start point. And every time the hostages Little Bird just stays on the ground for awhile, While its pilot and co-pilot are shot up. Any solution Nagul?
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i run 1.85 and have never put anything in my RES/addon folder. the only thing that's in my RES/addon folder is the PBOs that the game originaly put there. i always put stuff in my normal addon folder. i've never had and addon act up. my addon folder is 708MB big with no problems.
P.S. i'm still curious about awnsers to my 2 questions on page 4, when you have time, of course. after all, my stuff works, so my thirst is quenched.
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Any one see that new .rtm addon with the jeep with a custom cargo animation?
I am guessing once the tools are released, we can expect to see some nicely modified littlebirds. Just imagine seeing the troops sit on the planks with their guns ready, not to mention what can be done with the co-pilot for the littlebird armed with MP5.
Would I be wrong to expect this? ;D
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Ugh. I have 1.46 and it doesnt work. And is it true that the demo mission is Resistance only? If it is then that would suck. Its not clearly marked Resistance. Been waiting for this thing for two weeks. Hope you guys get the fix out soon. But elsewise good job on the mh-6 its the first ive seen non-resistance.
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Ive d/led the 1.46/1.75 version. Problem is, the chopper is invisible and the choppers dont show up in the mission editor unit list! I had Drakken's MH-6 model in from his earlier thread. Should I delete this?
:help:
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maldon, the readme for the demo mission says it is for Resistance only. I would say there is no simple fix, as the entire mission is set on Nogovo and is very reliant on buildings and terrain.
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Dude i was talking about a fix for the CHOPPERS not the mission.
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Problem with 1.46 version found.
Sorry about this all you 1.46 users. the problem with the 1.46 pbos has been found. Basically the pbo compiler I used to make the final pbo's is not compatiable with 1.46 :(
I used stuffpbo for testing which worked fine, but when I packed the finals I used makepbo to make the pbo's smaller. It seems files made with makepbo do not work with 1.46 (probably public knowledge already... I should really get out more).
The shortterm fix (until we upload the corrected files) is as follows:
Use pbodecrypter 1.5 to decompile the bas_lbs, bas_lbs146, bas_soar and bas_soar146 files.
Then use stuffpbo or pbotool to repack the folders into the same named pbos. Place these pbos into the ofp addon folder. The units should now appear in mission editor.
SelectThis
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Another question : Ive noticed when landing with the littlebird, when you pull the nose into the air to further slow your speed just before u touch down, the back end tail section will hit the ground, although it doesn't appear to show it that way, and the helicopters nose comes down. Will this be a future fix possibly? If you don't know what im talking about, try it for yourself. Fly at about 10-15 knts 2 feet off the ground, then pull back and put the nose into the air as your touching down and your tail section will hit the ground at a lower point from the bottom of the tail section than it shows. The only other time I saw this was on a huey model that was retextured from an original blackhawk (this was before o2 was out). The whole landing look and feel of this LB seems like it was made from another OFP model. I couldn't think of any reason why it would act and look this way on landings. Anyways, hope this can be fixed in a future upgrade to further add more realistic performance to the aircraft. Other than that, this LB is the best! GJ BAS team!
-BA
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How do u beat the demo mission? Every time my squads little bird pilot and co-pilot get shot up and then the blackhawk comes and flys around for a little bit and stays in 1 spot instead of taking me to the start point. And every time the hostages Little Bird just stays on the ground for awhile, While its pilot and co-pilot are shot up. Any solution Nagul?
That mission is so buggy I cant even begin to list the problems. Its close to impossible to finish. Id say out of 20 tries there was 1 try where there wasnt a mission halting bug such as the choppers landing in the wrong places, getting stuck on buildings, crashing into eachother etc. etc. etc, not to mention the horrible lag i get. This is the laggiest mission ive ever played, and my system can run the Battlefields mission that BIS released fairly well.
The choppers though are excellent, just gonna have to make my own demo mission :)
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OK two things:
.1) I've got it to work after following Monkey Lib Front's advice, ( Thanks!!! ) and,
.2) Everyone else who cant seem to find the LB's in the West/Air section of the editor... Stop Looking! It's not going to be there!!!
In the pulldown menu that allows you to select an air, armor, man type unit, you will ( You should if you put the files in the Res/addons folder, which DOES work, OMFG!!! ) find a new option: BAS Special Forces, or something to that effect. Select it and you will now be able to select the specific unit you want ( IE. the Littlebirds ) in the unit's pulldown menu.
Anyway, I hope that helps some of you monkeyspankers.
Simple right? Sheesh... Man I get so upset about stupid SHIZNIT sometimes...
Bravo Zulu to my mates at BAS for an ( as always ) excellent addon!
Now about that mission... Fargin' Beautiful!
I love everything about it- Except the part when my friggen ride invariably smacks into the side of the tall building in Maldron, you know- in the AO, er whatever.
I think I'm supposed to land on it... But in the intel briefing photo's the target building looks like a two story?
Is this bad intel, or just a lack thereof? Is my pilot on crack and trying to bugger his buddy in the front seat? Equiring minds ( Like mine ) want to know.
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excellent work guys. the TOW works fine with my ver 1.85. and everything shows up in the editor. the minigun sound i'm gonna have to change out based on my own personal perference. i think i have something in my files that would fit it nicely. i attached the sound i'll be using (35 kb). 2 questions
1. i didn't know the miniguns had tracking ability, is this true? i thought they where a fixed mount.
2. when i'm the gunner in the mh-6 and point the mp5 at the ground to a 45 deg. angle or greater, the chopper takes damage. (this was done with the chopper not airborne) is there a way to fix this. i think it maybe an OFP engine flaw.
They are fixed mount...the pilots use a grease pencil on the canopy to aim. I was gonna mention this to ST but we ran outta time...next release.
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i dont think it matters whether you put it in ofp>addons or ofp>res>addons, the res addons is there to load all the new addons and for people that dont install any upgrades to install addons, as if you just go from 1.00 and install res and 1.85 you have no ofp>addons
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How do u beat the demo mission? Every time my squads little bird pilot and co-pilot get shot up and then the blackhawk comes and flys around for a little bit and stays in 1 spot instead of taking me to the start point. And every time the hostages Little Bird just stays on the ground for awhile, While its pilot and co-pilot are shot up. Any solution Nagul?
That mission is so buggy I cant even begin to list the problems. Its close to impossible to finish. Id say out of 20 tries there was 1 try where there wasnt a mission halting bug such as the choppers landing in the wrong places, getting stuck on buildings, crashing into eachother etc. etc. etc, not to mention the horrible lag i get. This is the laggiest mission ive ever played, and my system can run the Battlefields mission that BIS released fairly well.
The choppers though are excellent, just gonna have to make my own demo mission :)
Thundermaker and others.....please bear in mind...mission making aint our thing.....Addons are.
Yes the mission needs some work...but it was just for people to hit the ground running for when the LB came out.
Nagual is a good mission maker but he was also under a lot of strain to get the mission working under trying circumstances (ever changing versions and features of the LB, etc.) so IT COULD use some more refinement.
The decision we faced was....delay the addon release to fully test the mission.....or release the addon.
I put it to you guys...for our next release (the MH-60L) what would you rather us do?
So Thunder....thanks for posting your opinion...but next time...please bear in mind we are not a mission house.
Having said that....Nagual and I will make sure the next addon missions are much simpler, less laggy and better tested.
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Sorry if I sounded a little harsh :(
Like an idiot I spent about 3 hrs playing the mission thinking id find a way to beat it lol. I know your specialty is addons and this one shows it :)
Anyways, I think you should just wait to release the mission til its finished, but dont delay the release of the addon. They dont really need to be released together, althought it is nice. But if the mission is not finished and is gonna delay the addons release just release them separate. Im sure we can all find something to do with these great addons til the missions are released :)
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Fair enough
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Yea! I finaly beat that mission! I love the scripting that Nagul put into this mission, I expecialy love the Intro and Outro! Keep it up BAS just next time a little less lag please. And about delaying release of an addon for the mission to be redy, just let it come out peice by peice when its done. Like instead of haveing the mission and the addon delayed release the addon first, then the mission. Well there's my two cents!
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will there be that nose thing like the MH-60L chopper in BHD?
and release on sunday?
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Yes.....
Release next week but not sunday
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/mh60l/160th.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/mh60l/160th2.jpg)
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I LOVE THEM SO MUCH!!!111 thank you so much BAS for a wonderful addon!
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Problem with 1.46 version found....
...the pbo compiler I used to make the final pbo's
is not compatiable with 1.46 :(
SelectThis
Just a detail here - :)
when packing addons into the final pbo's, it's always a good thing
to simply use the default "BIS-stuffer", that is :
- add an island name to your addon folder
- put an empty mission.sqm file inside the folder
- put the folder in your user missions folder
- export the file as a single mission
- Then re-name the pbo
Sounds boring and all ::) I know, but this way you're secured for evermore
since the game itself won't change its mission exporter :D
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I use the INTRO island, put an empty sqm next to the config in the addon folder,
re-name the addon folder from "TMB_Addon" to "TMB_Addon.intro"
then add this folder to my OFP/"UserNameMissions-Folder" and export the crap.
Then I just need to delete the ".intro" part of the final PBO filename, and all is fine 8)
PS. by "empty" mission sqm I mean :
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version=11;class Mission{addOns[]={};addOnsAuto[]={};randomSeed=0;class Intel{};};
class Intro
{
addOns[]={};
addOnsAuto[]={};
randomSeed=0;
class Intel
{
};
};
class OutroWin
{
addOns[]={};
addOnsAuto[]={};
randomSeed=0;
class Intel
{
};
};
class OutroLoose
{
addOns[]={};
addOnsAuto[]={};
randomSeed=0;
class Intel
{
};
};
--------------------------------------------------
zatz-it :-*
PPS.
the pbo file is also encrypted by default this way.
Tombs
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Any plans on creating custom .rtm files for the soldiers in your choppers when the tool is made available?
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Nice looking MH-60L tiger m8 1 question are you gonna add the fastrope script too in the addon ???
If no please add the script in the pbo file for easy use
If yes I love you Tiger :-*
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Not at this stage
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looking good as always.
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hey,
I have followed the steps for 1.46 to make them appear in the editor...
and they do... and i can use them... but when i get in to external view it comes up with a
cannot load (or something) mipmap bas_lbs\m\tjpcutcon.paa
argh :(
i have prolly fucked up the .pbos so when will the fixed 1.46 .pbos be on the site? (since i have given up)
thanks
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Hello i'm Col. Steve Robson Retired from the 101st Airbon Rangers....I need ask you is this the real handling from the Real LittleBrids becuase i was flying them on ofp an the handling was not Stable at all moves like u tuch the stick like a tuch an u go 210 knots thats not right u need to fix that i want the real thing plz......
Thank you for ur time guys
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My advice...wait for us to fix the 1,46 version in the next couple of days.
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@Doger
Thanks for your post and input. It's always an honour to have current and ex military types on this board. :)
We will continue to refine the handling of Littlebird...but lets please all remember one thing. OFP is NOT a flight simulator and therefore does not have the advanced physics engine of one.
My personal pain in the but is that no helo can "jink" properly in game...the simply do a slide slip and speed drops suddenly. Not real at all.
Unforunately we can only work within the confines of the OFP physics engine...and unfortunately...that engine doesn't cater well for airborne units.
We will look at the problem you reported Doger but I'm not sure we can do much about it as my gut feeling tells me it is a limitation of the OFP physics engine.
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About the mission, I have seen all bugs while playtesting it many, many times. But like tiger said, small changes to the birds itself could make large changes to the mission, even 1.85 patch altered the way they flew and landed. And getting the ai to fly exactly the same everytime is no easy task (at one point i put a civ standing in the first coastal town the birds fly over, but when detected by the west it casued the player helo to fly into the 2 others, lol).
Things like the player lb hitting the building happened occasionaly while the mission was being made, but seems more frequent latley so i will look into it. Sometimes the ai pilots of any chopper just go nuts, and do crazy things that i cant control. Like fly straight into each other ::)
As far as lag goes, it is a concern, but other missions will not involve so much activity in such a small place.
I also dont think its worth delaying an addon for the demo, the mission will always be close behind, and ballistic does produce addons, not missions.
When i finish moving houses this week, i will look into a 1.46 conversion of the demo, though the intro will be different.
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Doger, when did you retire? What company were you in? Where did you operate in Vietnam?
Remington
RLTW
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Re: 1.46 error messages.
I suspect the errors are caused by the new model for the pilot which uses the beretta proxies for 1.75+.
Try placing a empty littlebird and using the standard BIS pilots instead.
SelectThis
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well i was in Airborn Spec Ops team in C Company an i went to vietnam in 1965 an been in the army for 32 years an reired afther the golf war ended in 1992 so if ur fixing know what my age is i'm 58 an i was born Dec. 22, 1945
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Did you attend at the Point, Dodger? My uncle graduated from there about that time. He was a LRRP team leader with CCN at Phu Bai. His name was Vince Purdy, a Lt. in '65, maybe you bumped into him? Where in the 'Nam were you stationed?
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The golf war....was that when Scotland and America went at each other with 9 irons, Topflite mortars and really bad plaid uniforms with polo shirts?
Sorry Doger.....mean no disrespect..couldn't resist a little comedy.
welcome to the forums and the community :-)
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I'm having the same problems that Funkyman is having with 1.46. I followed the steps and re-pbo'd the files. But when I try to go to an outside view, the game crashes to an error message that says "cannot load mipmap bas_lbs\m\tjpcntcon.paa" Any ideas on any way to fix this?
thanks ???
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whenever i flew pretty fast, descending at the same time, the nose of the chopper went straight down and crashed...
i couldnÂ't believe itÂ's a bug in your BAS addon, coz i experienced the same on the LB from drakkhen.
finally i tried a bit around: the original blackhawk worked fine, nothing would happen... then i did the same maneuver with the original oh58 and it was pretty close to the BAS- LB- crash.
i think thereÂ's gotta be kinda bug in 1.85 depending on the mass/ the weight of a chopper. :(
dont know if anyone mentioned this post, but itÂ's getting a quite big problem -at least for me- in version 1.85...
it sometimes makes flying the LBs almost impossible.
i wonder, if anyone experienced the same bug in ofp 1.85 with the BAS LBs?
try this, to find out: place any LB uphill "larche" on malden, fly towards the city pretty fast and try to lower your height at the same time and pushing default-key "s" simultaneously.
this doesnt appear with other choppers, neither original, nor addon- heli.
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I have a similar problem - except it is the complete reverse!
Ever since i installed 1.85 all of my helo's - even the BAS ones, have had an incredibly annoying habit of wanting to climb.... >:(
Now I normally fly anywhere between 2 and 50 meters, (right down on the deck! :p) but now im finding it very hard to stay down there.....
so i expect that there has been a small helo bug introduced (not on purpose - i hope) which decreases the stability of the helo's in ofp - further tests will have to be carried out to find the cause...
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the little bird is a bit harder to fly that i agre but whit a little pratice you find that its a fantstic chopper and it SO 'alive' in fact i enjoy the challange to fly this baby (i been flying in ofp since the demo) so all in all
The chopper is smaller
-so it tilts a bit more [coud be the wind or the smaler mass compar to a uh60]
All im saying enjoy this, its fun, its a challange, its BALISTIC! :o ;D
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Yes it is very fun and dynamic to fly !! The part that makes this addon is the awesome sounds ! This is a really good quality addon, I can tell the blackhawks will also be very very good!!! Keep is up BAS!!! ;D
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yeah guys, i managed it like this: "oh well, letÂ's just say itÂ's the winds or some turbulances" ;D
but sometimes this really doesnt satisfie me, though there is a point where the chopper becomes un- maneuverable for some seconds.
i now found out that this mainly happens if you push "y" and "s"... the basic maneuver for keeping your height or landing the chopper for a quick- insertion.
surely BAS did a fantastic job and i can look over this small "bug", but iÂ'm curious if itÂ's a 1.85 bug or if it depends on the LB.
-greetings pang
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The LBs have a smaller turning radius than the standard helis. If you oversteer it then it will lose control and go into a spin...not so unrealistic I think ;)
Takes more skill to fly it LB fast and low.
SelectThis
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Doger, WOW, I have never heard of an Airborne Spec Ops team with Cco, Cco what, what bat were you with? You said you were a Airborne Ranger with the 101st. What exactly did your, "SPEC OPs" team do?
Remington
RLTW
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select this,
the thing is, that the chopper doesnt react on any key at all, if it once get into that strange thing, so it doesnt depend on the flight skills.
i was beginning to think that it would depend on the new 1.85 code, that automatically lowers the helos if the pass a waypoint, you know what i mean.
but some people i asked, dont seem to have those problems at all... others have similar ones, like deadmeatxm2, whos choppers wont keep their height properly.
anyways, you guys did a really excellent job on those LBs, but i was only wondering why i have this strange maneuverability.
well maybe its just any addon that screwed up my ofp, so that the LBs could be in conflict with some other addon.
iÂ'll try to reinstall my ofp (yep, only for the LB, aint that a proof of how much i like it? ;)) and see if itÂ'll work afterwards.
-greetings pang
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A big bravo to SelectThis, ebud, drakken and all I shamely forgot to mention.The amount of work, and hours put in that project has surely been huge!.
To those who moans for little bugs, color of the rear engine panel rivet, or the age ogf the Capitain, well just make your own addon, I wish you FUN!.
Nagual your mission is awsome, and when we see what have be done in the past concerning the use of helos, you're the man to make a B.H.D for us 8).
>> always loved the DAP Blackhawks.
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Where i was in Vietnam all i can say is i was Fighting VC an the NVA BHEL-means Behind Enemy Lines an what i did i cannot tell you.....an no i never bumped into him an i never met him before
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Ok...if no one else will..I'll raise the bullshit flag....Doger, YOUR FULL OF SH%T!!..and for the respect of those who were actually there and loss comrades in Nam..posers make me SICK!! and they all should be drug out into the middle of some cold, filthly swamp...kneecaped...then executed....In respect of those who actually were there.... I hope you cease your BS claims....and how bout gettin back on topic?...
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NO, Ill say it too, you are so full of SH!t, I fuC*ing hate people like you DOGER. Calling yourself a Ranger, your not even good enough to be a Rangers fart. You have no right calling your self one until you have done it. You disrepected everyone who as ever worn a uniform. I hope when you get to the pearly gates that Airborne Ranger In The Sky, kicks your ass.
Remington
RLTW
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Ok why you talking about this crap u were not there neather you Cluster F***K maybe u didn't lose friends there but i have i went to X-Ray 1968 afther all that crap then i went back t sigon City to rest an went back an do it all over again....So don't tell me what happened there.....you the one makeing the Army look bad if it was up to me i'll do the same what i did to those VC's End of Chat Got It my Friend!!!
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For a retired military vet, Dodger, your wording and punctuation sure sound professional *cough*. If your going to *act* like your ret military, at least try and type like one dude. It's people like you that give a bad name to military personel when you do this type of crap. Now, for a young one like you, I don't think you should be watching so much of that "We Were Soldiers" movie, too much violence at your age, boy. And to think your parents allow you to watch it? Jeez
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Pang, i get that thing where a helo does not even wanna move when goin along, it happens to all the helo's with me, its just a bug in the OFP engine, as thye have said OFP aint no FS.
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hmmmm. Black Angel i'm not young...but an we were solders was a good moive but i cryed see those young solders to death....an when i was there even made it worse so i came here to pst new idea's in here....an here you come makeing fun of a Retired Officer an a Vet....oh well u say what you like an i don't care....i seen what it was like in wars an fighted there for freedem...so god help me an give me power to give freedem to all countrys an United States Amen....
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guys, calm down, theres no need to get so worked up, hardly any of us know what other people do here in their lives, for all you know i could be a very fat, rather jolly man in a red and black suit running around with midgets in a not too warm part of the world :)
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Where is a moderator when you need one? :P This is digusting, I have to request that we drop the phony war stories and mud slinging and get back to the LB Topic!
Vietnam was no Joke to many Soldiers were Murdered, to many innocent Civilians Sloughterd, Republicans sending other people's Sons to war and putting their kids in the National Guard (George W. Bush, former Guard Member :P) safe from the bullets, and to make things worse the Surviving American Soldiers (Drafties) were Treated like Sh*t buy the public, it was sick! >:( Vietnam was one of the Darkest Spots in United States' History, I have one word about it... FUBAR
Get Back on Topic
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my two cents on everything going on in this post:
the bugs - nagual, ive actually been unable to play the mission due to the fact that every time i go to do it, the "cannot load: missing bas_mh6, bas_soar" message comes up. can you shed any light upon this?
ive heard good things about this mission, and believe me, when i was running tests for this bird back in the beta versions, i realized how hard it is to make things work flawlessly, whether it's the LB or a blackhawk or any other helo.
doger, im actually just going to leave this issue and my thoughts and questions on your claims alone, and i request we all do the same, and stay on topic. Just please do us all a favor mate and spell/grammar check your posts before you put them up. thanks mate, it'll help us understand what you're saying.
Tiger - i've been unable to access my email for the last two days; however, tomorrow it ought to be up and running. i can send you my report once its operational.
cheers mates
like always, question, comments, criticisms, etc, feel free to ask...
ofpeditor
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guys, calm down, theres no need to get so worked up, hardly any of us know what other people do here in their lives, for all you know i could be a very fat, rather jolly man in a red and black suit running around with midgets in a not too warm part of the world :)
I knew it!!
Anyway, here are my comments about the Littlebirds, hope I do not repeat any...
The models and textures are superb, but can use a few tweaks... the "arms" holding the FFAR pods and miniguns, for example, have a rather wierd texture on top, but that is minor. The ammunition belts leading to the miniguns also seem to be clipped off by those same arms, which I guess could be modified with no trouble if you make the miniguns locked in place in the next version.
STT has already addressed the invulnerabilty of the chopper's occupants, no problem.
Also, there is a rather annoying bug where if you look through the chopper, one side to the other, all the buildings behind the chopper disappear. I see some addons, like Capt Moore's littlebirds have this, but Drak's independant littlebird release does not have this bug.
Good thing that you made the chopper targetable by machinegunners (and riflemen, too, if you go too low and too slow ;) ), but I see that tanks also open fire on them with their machineguns. I guess it makes sense that if a littlebird is landing in front of a tank, it would open fire on it, but the problem is AI tank gunners are way too accurate with the machinegun at long ranges with moving targets. If you have a tank anywhere in sight of a littlebird, it will take a lot of damage. I do not know if that is a good or bad gameplay balance, though. I guess when you are dealing with enemy tanks, you would not be inserting small teams too close, well I do not know, I will let other people make the call on that one.
The AI for the littlebirds is decent, it can fly around well and lands relatively quickly (of course, the best method would be to use a script with ejecting the team as the littlebird scrapes the ground fast). However, it seems to have trouble using the minigun very well. It actually does use it sometimes and gets close to target, but even with an entire barrage, it is not very effective. I fear that if you make the miniguns locked into place, the AI will not be able to hit anything.
On a happier note, I love the new pilot models, and I like how disembarking from the seating planks is animated so not everyone jumps from the same spot. Once again, great job!
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Okay guys, enough is enough.
Please knock it off or we'll have to start punishing people.
Regardless of whether Doger's statements are true or not, the argument contents are off-topic, pointless and detracting from a great thread and addon.
In future, if you have a greivance with someone or allegations to make, please do so in the privacy of email or the Instant Message service, or refer the issue to a moderator/global mod/admin.
Public "discussions" of this nature only result in everyone being punished.
End of argument, return to the topic.
Thank you.
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**applauds**
thank you noon
cheers mates
ofpeditor
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ur right noon....but i didn't start this vendana here...all i did was post some error notes to tiger about the New add on an i really like the those add ons good job at it BAS...an all i did was told tiger my real name an rank witch i was thats all
Great Job BAS keep it up!!
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Mission problem - Ran fine, got in and located the hostage, he ran out like a bat. I'm left running around wondering where the hell is this laser tag i'm supposed to drop and finally I see a lil bird on top of the building I just rescued the hostage from and both pilots are dead yet it hovers about a meter off the roof just spinning in cirles. ???
When the mission starts and I speed time up to reach the objective usually one or two lil birds crash. :o
Finally, when I get there the lb usually lands by the two cars to the west. However if I call in CAS and tell them to diembark they land on top of the building closest to that position. Were we supposed to land there in the first place? ???
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LMAO @ the silly childesh flame war
I just wanna say cheers to BAS. these things were a long wait but worth every minute. this add-on has really brought back the excitement in playing OFP. I really hope you fellas keep releasing missions with your work ;D I downloaded the correct LB for my OFP version and read the readme, hence no instalation problems whatsoever. If it were up to me I would only release them to support the current OFP version to aviod conflicts. let the slackers of the community modify them for outdated versions of the game, BAS time is better spent working on the here and now.
as for the mission, first off coming from a fellow mission maker i wanna say excellent work to nagul (spelling?). the cutscenes are excellent and for such an ambitious mission it runs well. as for the lag i wanna tell all of the complainers that you should always expect a little lag from a mission with this much going on in a confined space. Some ppl need to tone down their detail settings or upgrade their systems. it ran smoothly on my system and it is far from high end.
also you need to improve the extraction part of the mission. i wasnt sure what to do after i completed the mission so i called in the pavehawk. it didnt wanna land, which was a little fustrating. i tried the mission again, and this time one of my other operatives survived and i was able to get the pavehawk to land by telling my guys to board it.
now im off to dePBO it, im perticularly interested in how you did that excellent bridge scene.
thank you BAS!!!
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Hey I just Finished that Mission, Wow that Was Gnarly! it was kind of hard though the AI Choppers kept Trying to Kill each other by Crashing into each other, it's funny at first but then, well it gets Frustating! ::) any who, that was Great I hope the DAPs have something just as Gnarly!
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!!!-Spoiler-!!!
Speaking of that opening bridge seen, what is the AH-6J spraying M-134 at? The gunner expends the entire 7.62 load, but doesnt' seem to be targeting the troops and vehicles on the bridge. Is the gunner shooting over the Russian's heads to keep them floored? Seems like the bird should wait for the convoy to pass, and then climb away. A couple gun passes would reduce them to slivers, since it seems as though they wanted them dead.
That poor bastard driving the UAZ obviously didn't rate the same courtesy, looks like he got a FFAR enema.
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@garritos
Thanks for the compliments.
In fact everyone...thanks for the feedback.
I have identified a list of 23 issues that ST and I will be working on. Some of these major (no shooting of platform passengers) to minor (command interface name of helo not showing correctly.)
We will work through these issues over the next couple of days.
And before you ask....no...I don't have an ETA on the fixed 1.46 version or the MH-60Ls :)
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the intro works fine but during the mission it has an error and says i need this:
* TJP PAvehawk (Euro Camo) (TJP_Pavehawk.pbo)
where can I find it, sorry if its been answered but I havent got time to read all the pages
cheers
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You can download all of the TJP 'Hawks here:
http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?sekce=unofaddons/aircrafts
You of course want the TJP MH-60G Pavehawk (Euro Camo) for the mission, it's on page 6. Incidently, all of their Black Hawk variants are also on this site, though you may want to hold off on downloading them, as they will soon be replaced by much improved BAS models.
Ciao.
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I'm likein' the LBs as they are, (but I don't dig being shot right before hitting the Drop Zone) I like the Ability tohold Passagers in the AH6 is very nice touch of Realism, you guys should make a Medevac MH6 with a Backseat with a streacher in there, but that's just an Idea, very nice work as usual ;)
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Also on the BAS site, under information for the littlebird, it said there was a variation that could hold two motorbikes on the sides to quickly deploy them.
Here is what I am thinking:
Create the model of that aircraft with missile proxies on the arms which are in the shape of a motorbike, but when they fire, they just disappear. Combine this with an in-mission script that creates a motorbike next to the chopper when a motorbike "missile" is fired. I am not very sure about this, but I read it in the information page and we do have STT's fine motorbike addon.
Other silly requests: (if these variations do not exist or are not practical, never mind)
Littlebird with only FFAR pods and no FLIR.
Unarmed MH-6 without the seating planks on the side.
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:DI really like the motorcycle idea, something similar might be done for a ATB. ( all terrain bicycle )
Now that you mention it, a zodiak ( gotta love 'em!!! ) could be done from the MH-53, MH-47, and possably from a C-130. ( The new MC-130 from G8 looks really good! ) And because the vehicle appears from a script, you wouldn't even have to make a different model of the AC.
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You can download all of the TJP 'Hawks here:
http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?sekce=unofaddons/aircrafts
You of course want the TJP MH-60G Pavehawk (Euro Camo) for the mission, it's on page 6. Incidently, all of their Black Hawk variants are also on this site, though you may want to hold off on downloading them, as they will soon be replaced by much improved BAS models.
Ciao.
i think the brand new pavehawks will take a while AFAIK the AH-1W and UH-1N are the main projects after the MH-60L gets released next week
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So... did you guys find a way to fix the littlebirds for 1.46? I know you have to use the depbo thing and pack it back up, but I suck a technology and I'm too lazy to do it myself. Honestly, what's taking so long? No offense, but does it take that long to use stuffpbo and then publish the darn helo?! I WANT IT I WANT IT I WANT IT! Please don't torture me like this! :'(
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i have just downloaded the 1.46 version of the littlebird addon... (very excited still)
however i cannot get it to work...
i do have flashpoint 1.46, and i did download version 1.46 of the addon..
i moved the 4 .pbo files into the addons directory... but they do not show up when i try to add them in the editor in the game...
help please
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hi everybody
again about the littlebirds v.1.46 problems, the answers are in Balistic's homepage and also posted previously...
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when do we expect the new 1.46 version?
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changes in version 1.1
- all 1.46 pbos repacked with stuffpbo
- handling adjusted to make the LBs less twitchy, better conrnering
- lower elevation of miniguns reduced from -40degrees to -25 degrees
-passengers on the MH6 and MH6a can now be targetted and hit in flight - make sure to use the AH6 to clear the area before an insertion!
-pilot armpatches corrected
-1.46 version changes
   -remade two problem textures
   -beretta proxy removed from pilot
just putting the files together now, should be up at BAS site tomorrow.
The pic was taken on my computer running 1.46.
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