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Addons & Mods Depot => OFP - Addons & Mods Beta Testing => Topic started by: lawrie5 on 11 Mar 2003, 01:29:10
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Right well as ull know from me ambitious plane (great typo for the forum) i.e. plan, this is the early war pack the first of my 6 packs (i will release a unit beta probably if thats cool) so u can get a taste.
So far i think will include.
3x K98 Privates (differing P3d models)
1x Mp40 Private
1x Sergeant
1x Corporal
1x MG34 Private
This list will be set to grow and i will use this thread to show pictures of the pack till it heads into completion, this version of the pack will be coded to use upminders pack (any extra weapons will be supplied in the pack but upminders will be needed)
Give me ideas and suggestions/requests for what u think should be in the pack for 1939/40 Wermarcht Pack (excluding Wss/ss and tank or air crews these will be in distinct packs of their own)
In particularly interested in any famous regiments or special characters u would like to see included in the pack (those german commanders famous for their campaigns in France/Poland etc)
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Sorry forgot, also...
1x Motorcycle Troop
1x Lieutenant
1x Captain
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are there ny pics yet of these men...............i cant wait
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Aushilfe made a MG34 (without textures), look in the old Nam Pack Tread.
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Lawrie, i hope you will re-consider using upminder's weapons. All credit to upminder, i dont mean to be unduly cruel to his creation, but i thought that the WW2EC had their own custom weapon pack coming soon? Also, the lack of custom sights does take away from the weapons more than a little bit :(
Otherwise, sounds fantastic, I personally cant wait for this addon, those screens that were released look really good!
Astatine
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In the early war they noone were using machine guns like mp40 much. They used rifles mostly but they started to use machine guns later on.
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In the early war they noone were using machine guns like mp40 much. They used rifles mostly but they started to use machine guns later on.
even the paratroopers?
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Yes Xer i know what u mean, hence why the early war pack will have a variety of K98 troops, um in a perfect world id have an mp38 and mp40 (mp40 entering service as it did in 1940) but the reason the packs will use upminders weapons is for present because everyone should have it or probably has, so compatibility will be less of an issue.
As for u Astatine no need to be sad because a second version will use ww2ecs weapons (and should have some further bonuses in the pack for that version) for example ill try to convince fatjoe to include an mp38 and mp28 so they can be used in this pack too.
Um cos i love yas the basic K98 trooper will be released when hes done, then the rest of that pack will be done, (course u can arm him with all kinds anyway) but at least its something for us to play with till the rest of the early pack is done. Few changes to be done to him yet tho but not much, for example eyelids are too low, and i want to tilt the helmet a tiny bit, but thats it heres a pic!
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Also i am making a basic french infantry unit (he wont be wearing the classic great coat but will be dressed in the M1938 coat instead.
Im not launching into a french pack too tho, (i will after the germans do some other nationalities eventually) see editing ofps a hobby i dont see ending lol annnyway...
Heres a pic of some equipment, the models done and he will be a single download (for u to use against the early pack hehe)
Sorry pic isnt much but more to come!
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Hmmm..... Its looking Awsome Lawrie. Good skills my son. Any chance of some collaberation with Motho38. Currently, hes working on regular British infantry. Could you steal his Tommie model and 1940-ise it for use as a British Expeditionary Force trooper? It would give them twice as much to shoot at.
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Well interestingly enough gavin already did a tommy model a while ago (he's done an 8th army version too) which i was going to make but have him send a pic of his model over id love to check it out, maybe if its suitable and if he liked, then i could use that and texture it *shrugs*
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Very welcome addon...
I hope you can reassure us that there will be :
wound textures
handgun slots
weapon icons in equipment screen
a proper AT weapon (the panzerfaust with the WW2EC german infantry is useless against tanks).
Oh, yeah, any chance of a bandaged soldier like in the Nam Pack, too?
Our thanks for all your efforts! :D
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One other point... I keep seeing references to there being some WW2 tank crew around. But can I find them? Can I f#uck.
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I suspect Vibes has made a Panzershreck for any future packs and the SS update when it happens.
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(Don't know if they had them in 1940)
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Surely there must have been some vaguely effective AT weapon... this really is essential... you can't have infantry running around with no means of dealing with a tank. The bazooka in the allied pack is great (are those MOH sound files ;)?).
One other point... plz include weapon and ammo names in a readme... these were absent from some of WW2EC stuff... so I'm gonna have to de-pbo the files if I want to do any custom loadouts.
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Actually... I take back what I said about the existing SS panzerfaust, it's fine... my confusion stemmed from the fact that tanks were showing no damage after one hit (if I got in the commander's seat). But I've just destroyed a Sherman with two hits, one to the rear, one to the side as it turned. So this is fine. No icon in the equipment screen, mind ;)
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I should imagine blood textures will be incorporated, im already done most the blood textures already for me german basic trooper (its just coding etc i need to sort) if ur interested in helpin me (in or outside ww2ec) give me an email...
As for weapons they will be 2 versions 1st with upminders weapons and an alternative with ww2ec, im not getting fixated by the weapons issue, but i can say that the units will be armed with relatively authentic to close equivelant weapons. Incidentally if someone was willing we could have a nice anti-tank rifle for the early pack?
Um im sure all the units will have handgun slots (if u mean in oxy) again as far as weapon icons etc, they will be coded to use other peoples packs (as in the unit cpps will require u to have the upminder or ww2ec pack depending on the version u want.
Um yes there will be a bandaged soldier, (wounded, there will also be a prisoner version) i like to give some character to the pack, not just a kind of clone army etc.
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Sounds really good... not heard of upminder's pack, will have to investigate that one.
Can't help with oxygen, I'm afraid, but I'll do you a few missions if you like. Just started to do WW2 stuff, and loving it. :D
Forgot to ask if you are including any advance sounds (e.g. custom footfall/equipment noise, german cries, warnings, exclamations etc.), as has been done with some of the other infantry.
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hmm well if i had my own way that would be an idea worth implementing, um the general plan is for these packs basically to be accessible, so first of all so long u have another download like say upminders (moah conversion) or the ww2weapon pack (when thats eventually released) then all ull need is to pop one of my zips pbos in ur addon and then shabang ur away!
Compatibility is important for the addons, and so is balance, in particular among all the different tanks etc, (im going to recommend a new level of armor standardisation since i know something of tank armour and penetration values *ahem* for the ww2ec tanks.
Annnywwaaaaay... the pack wont take absolutely ages to do cos it wont be enormous, (i can go pack to expand it later) but its just so i dont spend my life on 1 project. The first pack i suspect will include 10 player models/variants, making in the editor about 15 units types. Due to the high level of unit customisation u wont get units looking the same as much as in other games/mods.
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Groovy...
I tried out Upminder's pack BTW and it's generally good (well, it's MOH... but these great sounds deserve to be in a decent game rather than that linear 10 minuter ;) ), although I note there is strangely no bazooka (which I seem to recal is in MOH... or was that Hidden & Dangerous... it all blurs into one).
I REALLY agree with you about armour standardisation... I've been rigorously testing all the available tanks and AT launchers all afternoon so my missions are balanced and I've found some of the independent WW2 addons to be way off scale.
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hi
if you check out varios sites you will realise that up has released a updated version with panzershreck bazooka and pistol!
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What version are we talking about? I just got this :
http://www.flashpoint.ru/data/addons/pehota-weapon/WW-2%20WeaponsPack.rar
from the other thread. 1.3 is latest, yes?
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http://www.planetrainbowsix.com/atwar/OFP/addons.asp (http://www.planetrainbowsix.com/atwar/OFP/addons.asp) <- they have the latest and final version of Upminders MOHAA weap pack.... But i warn you.. FILEPLANET ;P. urfgh.
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In the early war they noone were using machine guns like mp40 much. They used rifles mostly but they started to use machine guns later on.
Wrong worng wrong wrong WRONG. The entire german infantry squad was based around the Machine Gun with rifles and other small arms in support of said MG. Even the brits had the Bren as their centerpiece.
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Carefull!!! He said Machine guns, but he meant SUB-Machine guns..... (Like the MP40, Thompson, and Sten.) They DID have MG34's and MG42's in abundance, yes.... but that isn't what he said!
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Yepp I ment sub-machine guns. Im swedish you know. Not an expert on english.
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Heres a very early pic of this french soldier im working on, as u will see theres a lot of work still to be done on him (like some equipment textures etc) should have him done relatively soon and then we'll release as a wee test beta this frenchey and germanishiwishy guy!
(then i can continue on other stuff etc)
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Hey... looking good. Has he got any weapons?
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I believe me french unit will be armed with one of these fellows!
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Howdy-ho Lawrie,
Any chance you could do some allied tank crew, as we ain't got none...
Yours Double-Negatively,
Strangelove.
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Carefull!!! He said Machine guns, but he meant SUB-Machine guns..... (Like the MP40, Thompson, and Sten.) They DID have MG34's and MG42's in abundance, yes.... but that isn't what he said!
early war they did not have mg42's in abundance ;)
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This is info for all the german stuff the ww2ec are making now (in a really cool organised way that isnt horrible like i44)
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Stop bashing other mod teams plz... >:(
We and i44 are NOT enemy's... so plz stop it alright??
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Im not bashing im only talking about the reference of work method and how addons are released.... (so please dont whine at me like that fw) I have friends in i44, but i dont like their work method ? doesnt mean i said they were an enemy lol, there a mod team! Anyway this is outwith the thread... (which is cos moderators the early war pack is now merged means this thread has run its course)
Oh and Fw200 if u dont think i44 treat us like enemies hehe u should try reading their private members board...
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Well, thats fine. But I respect them and the quality of their work......
A little "friendly" competition is fine though, I think, so long as too much addon overlap is avoided....
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Ditto.
Please refrain from bashing like that, it is not neccesary and we at WW2EC respect the quality and the team of I44, as we hope they do back ;)
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well u can hope! hehe anyway do moderators not check these anymore this post is way off topic
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So get it back on topic and tell us about the pack, man ;)
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Im not bashing im only talking about the reference of work method and how addons are released.... (so please dont whine at me like that fw) I have friends in i44, but i dont like their work method ? doesnt mean i said they were an enemy lol, there a mod team! Anyway this is outwith the thread... (which is cos moderators the early war pack is now merged means this thread has run its course)
Oh and Fw200 if u dont think i44 treat us like enemies hehe u should try reading their private members board...
Lawrie you dont know how we work!
You never been in that team so how can you know our work method? A well nevermind that. And its not trought that we dislike WW2ec! thats 200 % sure
So please tell me where you read that. So i/we can see it our selves.
But letss stay ontopic now :D
Hope we will see some mayor improvents on the German pack.
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Now I'm not even gonna bother taking that one further, so jumping back to the discussion roots - I hear ya on that one Strangelove. We need an Allied Tank crew. I'll look into it and see what I can do. 8)
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Groovy :D
WW2EC has a shed load of tanks in the works but I haven't seen any talk of crew yet. ???
Sorry if this is a slight tangent but... I think I read somewhere the other day that Tiger tanks had FIVE crew (commander, driver, gunner, loader and radio operator). It would be amazing if this could be implemented in OFP. As far as the config is concerned I'm aware that the loader and radio operator would have to be classed as cargo positions, but could it perhaps be rigged that the tank fired at half speed if there was no one in the loader position?
This would also improve gameplay... as if, for instance, your gunner bought it, you could simply shift another crewman into that position. Does anyone else thing this would be good, coz I do!
BTW plz forget/cease any rivalry talk. Both your mods look amazing :o
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ARgh let this post be... theres only one way to get this one locked!!!
SADDAM HUSSEIN WIN THE WAR YES GO FOR IT YIPEEE!!!!
Look this supportive war comment is completely immoral and explicity against the rules of posting withing the Addon Editing: Pre-1985 forum. Hence must be deleted immediately.
Oh and incidentally u can eagerly await nice totally improved textures of mid war germans as opposed to poorish early war german textures !
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I think it would be cool to have even if only for the ability of being able to pick up the surviving crew from a knocked out tank.
Alot WW2 tanks had a 5 man crew with the radio operator also manning the hull machine gun
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i believe that early in the war the German army was equipped with an anti-tank rifle............sry i dont have much more info
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stop replying to this god damn thread! Reply to the mid war germans it actually has decent looking pics!!!
And for u scum that do read this ... hi how u doing ? hehe
done so far
Grey helmet K98 Trooper Pvt
Grey cap K98 Trooper Pvt
Grey Side Cap K98 Trooper Pvt (so standard K98 wehrmarcht field grey covered)
Splinter helmet K98 Trooper Pvt
Splinter cap K98 Trooper Pvt
Splinter Side Cap K98 Trooper Pvt (So standard camo guys done)
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Um sorry from above i meant standard camo wehrmacht K98 done for now lol, i like realistic historical variety so expect a wide variety of fancy units, id appreciate help with lods, i also expect these packs to me small to medium but there being many of em lol.
Heres a camo pic which i know is hard to see
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Again sorry for fanatical replying but the ww2ec has most of my screens and some cool b&w ones, but one u wont see there is this happy picture!