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Addons & Mods Depot => OFP - Addons & Mods Beta Testing => Topic started by: Skaven on 25 Nov 2002, 14:55:56
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I'm happy to anounce that after spending some weeks working with Frandsen, we finnaly finneshed the Delta Team, there are only some small issues regarding details still needing to be adjusted.
Here are some pics for you though crytics to analyse ;D
Any sugestion, reclamation, critic will be as always more than welcome ;)
We're thinking on releasing them very soon, I'm just waiting to finnish the BAS Weapons Pack that I'm working at the moment, it will have an M14 with an ACOG as seen in BHD, and also 6 or 7 new SOPMODs which represents FlipeR's M4s base weapons, in conjunction with Curtis (unbeliavable scopes) and Frandsen's work, I already have two of them in game, I'll post some screen shots soon.
Also any information about how the ACOG sights should look like would be more than welcome,I'm currentely searching for pics of the SOPMODS to include in the game editor and also for sight pictures to make them as real as possible, the more pics the better, also there is something that as making me wonder, I never fired such a weapon, and I already got all sorts of opinions, still, does the ACOG sight as Zoom in and Out or just a static one? If it does have a moveble zoom, you guys know the +/- degrees or meters?
Here are some pics ;)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/DeltaForce/newdeltas.jpg)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/Delta1.jpg)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/Delta2.jpg)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/Delta3.jpg)
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they look great :D :D
but the NV I think looks like they are bloking fore there line of sight :-\
STGN
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Yes the NVG is being reviwed, STT gave us a great help, but that is somthing we're still sorting (one of the mention small issues ;D )
It does fully work, it as an animation that raises and lowers them automaticaly, but, we're still finding a way to make them better ;D
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that very cool ;D there is a reason why you gyes from BAS is considered some of the best.
STGN
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Just one small thing;
The M14 in BHD had an aimpoint mounted on top, not an ACOG.
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link for pics of sights and optics:
http://www.specwargear.com/optics&lens.html (http://www.specwargear.com/optics&lens.html)
pic of ACOG reticle:
(http://www.tmcarms.com/images/AcogBR.jpg)
ACOG specs:
http://www.omegamanenterprises.com/liteimages/ACOGspecs.gif (http://www.omegamanenterprises.com/liteimages/ACOGspecs.gif)
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Correct me if im wrong,
is that camo pattern kind of old?
i liked the Lost brothers New Woodland camo pattern
ive seen pics of all those MARPATÂ's and all. They donÂ't look the same as the original OFP US camopattern...
Though im not familiar with US army or anythinÂ'
Nice job! ;)
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First off, beautiful work to BAS, and their constituents! I eagerly look foward to using these troopers... they've been a long time coming.
Secondly, that's actually an excellent representation of US woodland BDU camo pattern. The only branch yet to receive the MARPAT ( MARine PATtern ) camoflage BDU's is, of course, the Marines. I don't know whether the other branches of the US military will update their camo before the Land Warrior system is fully fielded, but If I'm not mistaken- new and innovative techniques are being studied as a replacement.
Eventually, as the Objective Force Warrior system of systems is fielded, one of the planned components will include an advanced mimetic camoflage that would function like the "Predator's cloaking device". It would monitor the background coloration and lighting and adjust the camo pattern ( And perhaps even texture/shape! ) to achieve maximum stealth. There have already been prototypes tested that allowed the wearer to routinely approach to within 20 meters of an unsuspecting subject- in full daylight.
I think the limiting factor right now is weight, new portable battery capacity and fuel-cell power generation technologies, and the soldiers ability to remain unplugged from an extension cord for more than 12 hours...
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max is right it is an aimpoint and i might be finishing 1 of these aswell as a few weapons as soon as i can get some 1 to write me a config seing i suck at them
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So what exactly are the mag pouches attached to? It's nice to finally see some current issue style pouches though, with the citek buckles.
And where are the leg straps for the thigh holster on the WD cammie guys? Without 'em, that holster would be flapping around... ;)
OD colored helmet would be more accurate to what's currently in use (CGF Gallet TC-2000/1 helmets). Black is not a naturally occuring color!
Will there be a radio modelled somewhere on the characters? AN/PRC-148 MBITR, maybe?
How about hydration? CamelBak?
As for the SOPMODs, every single one I've seen has had a AN/PEQ-2 attached somewhere on the rail system. General consensus on placement seems to be on the upper rail. Aimpoint Comp M2's are issued, although some operators privately purchase a EOTech 551/2 HDS. Some guys swear by it, but I prefer my Aimpoint or CMore over the EOTech. As for the ACOG it depends on the model. The one popularized by SEALS is a static 4x magnification (which is why it has integrated iron sights).
You cannot zoom in with Aimpoints either. The best you can do is buy a magnification lens and attach it to the Aimpoint, but it is static.
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To clarify, does the NVG model go down automatically when the player activates NVGs? Is the orginal box-like NVG model still visible?
For the BAS weapons pack, are there any other weapons planned, like a SAW or a more modern sniper rifle?
As a request, could one of the model variants have the "safety goggles" (I know that is certainly not what they are called, but I do not know the actual name) on? Or, even better, could the variants without the NVG have an animation that raises and lowers the safety goggles. That may just be silly, though, if they can serve no ingame purpose and just use up an action slot.
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1 The leg straps for the pistol holster on the woodland were placed (the pics were old) ;D
2 The Radio is on the back of the Radio Man you can't see form here ;D
3 They all have CamelBaks on the back also, you can't see from here ;D
4 The helmet I'm thinking about it ;D
Any more sugestions? ;)
As for the SOPMOD Tips and Pics, thanks guys ;)
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2 The Radio is on the back of the Radio Man you can't see form here ;D
I think when he says radio, its a personal radio for in squad communication. Those would normally be placed on the back of the vest either behind one of the shoulders or in the middle.
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the radio is the headset they are wearing
for the "red dot" as Aimpoint is a Trademark ive seen som1 making one on his guns for ofp he also explained how it can be done, maybe it will also be placed on the Ballistic guns with "red dot" i dunno but we go for realistic so might be posible if we can make it work properly
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DKRaven's got it right -- my fault for not clarifying. The AN/PRC-148 MBITR is the latest issued radio to SF-types for intra-squad comms:
http://www.thales-defence.co.uk/business/commsys/comms/tactical/mbitr/default.htm
The current issue (that I'm aware of, although I have seen/heard of other CamelBak systems in use) CamelBak system is the Storm, which is also a part of the MOLLE system (although the Storm itself is in OD).
http://www.camelbak.com/mil/cb_prod.cfm?Product_ID=63&CATID=6
As for goggles, the popular brand that I've seen guys wearing are Bolle. The T-800 goggles are really nice and compact (I own a pair myself).
http://www.lightfighter.com/item.html?PRID=760228
Have you guys thought about modelling RAID-style BDU jackets? They wouldn't serve any purpose game-wise, but this is how SF-types modify their BDU tops. Either the lower or breast pockets are moved to the shoulders; usually at an angle, with the buttons replaced with velcro. Velcro is also stitched to the side of the pockets for flag, glint tape, insignia, blood type, etc. It'd just be a nice detail, nothing important. Kneepads are also recommended for the WD guys, if they haven't been slapped on them yet.
I also take it those NVG are supposed to be AN/PVS-15's? Very expensive. ;)
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the radio is the headset they are wearing
A headset still needs something to plug into. :P
The Telex Stinger is issued, although from all accounts it is a POS that breaks rather easily.
http://www.telexlmr.com/milswatcovert.htm
Handmikes are still in use as well as headsets...
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Is there any plans on including a M68 CCO (Close Combat Optics) on any of the M4's? (I believe they were the scopes used on the M4's by Delta Operators in the film Black Hawk Down.)
I believe this would be excellent for CQB situations.
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Is there any plans on including a M68 CCO (Close Combat Optics) on any of the M4's? (I believe they were the scopes used on the M4's by Delta Operators in the film Black Hawk Down.)
I believe this would be excellent for CQB situations.
M68 is the military designation for the Aimpoint scopes we've been talking about. :)
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Awesome troops! good job
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i dont think they had M68s in 1993
thats wat i herd anyway....
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It's the Most Beautiful Thing I ever Saw :'( for the Medics you should add a Big Pack, or a Strecher, or Both :D Great Textures, Gimmie! Gimmie! :D :D :D :D
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for the radio i got a handmike and headset it works great just fits in my pocket hehe
for the aimpoint scope there are 2 types of aimpoint scopes
http://www.aimpoint.com/video/AVI7.avi (http://www.aimpoint.com/video/AVI7.avi)
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Registered-
Aimpoint has been manufacturing scopes for quite sometime now. They may not have been issued, but that doesn't mean that they were not group purchased or even privately purchased (with approval). They were, after all, CAG.
Punker-
Any old big pack isn't what medics wear these days. They wear packs *designed* for medics, since they have very specific needs for very specific tools (IV bags, scissors, tubes, stands, etc).
An example would be the excellent Eagle Industries A-III medic pack: http://www.eagleindustries.com/ProdDisp.asp?PartNoID=5
I own a regular (non medic) A-III pack and I love it.
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Your radio may fit in your pocket, but the military's radios won't. ;)
As for the Aimpoints, the one commonly seen and used (especially by the military) are the Comp M2 series. These particular reddots have NV capabilities (ie you turn them to the 2 lowest settings and they are invisible to the naked eye -- unless you are wearing NVG). They're also a bit pricier than the Comp ML2 series, which are not NV capable.
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Thanks for the pics and info guys, as usual your help is more that apreciated and helpfull ;)
I'll post some more pics soon, for now I've been finnishing the details that I felt that needed to be improoved, the pistol holster the vest,the mag pounches the helmet have all been improoved, I don't believe that it's possible to make them much better from what I know and from the way they are mapped.
I've studied every milimeter of them, every shadow,every colour, BAS is known for quality and for realism, well I've spent 26 hours working on this guys, and I do believe that it won't be possible to make them much better, I've even textured things that won't be seen because the vest is covering it, even the dust below the boots, have been thought compared to the way real persons step in dust, trust me this guys have quality and have been thought to the smallest detail.
Ofcourse there are always things that could be discussed, like the coulour of the boots, brown? black? the colour of the vest,brown?black?green? the type of helmet, the type of radio and so on. I've gathered all the pics I have from them, I've seen BHD 3 times in slow motion ;D and I made them like 75% of the photos show, black boots,black mag pouches and black vest for desert, the same was done for the woodland.
The only problem that still needs to be worked is th NVG, when you use the action menu it does drop and raise, and it doesn't use the old ones, but the degrees it covers doesn't satisfy me but I'm still figuring a way to fix that. And ofcourse you still have to use N to light them on, so far I didn't figure a way to make them work better, but I'll ask STT, if it's possible, he knows how to it ;D
Now the weapons ;D
Using FlipeR's M4s as base with full permission, Frandsen and Curtis made a new set of SOPMODs, I've been making a new cpp file for them and so far I have 6 new weapons in game, the M4SOPMOD ACOG,M4SOPMOD ACOG SD,M4SOPMOD Reflex,M4SOPMOD Reflex SD,M4SOPMOD ACOG M203 and M4SOPMOD ACOG M203 SD.
Next I will finnish one M14 with an ACOG and maybe one with a REFLEX, it depends on the size of the pbo file and also on the need for more weapons. We've been making the weapons as we need them, we could make 20 weapons, but it doesn't make much sense we're making the weapons as we need them, we ain't making weapons for featuring soldiers neither soldiers for feature weapons, we're making DELTA TEAMS to feature BAS's quality standarts which so far I can say we've done the best we can which I hope it satisfys you guys ;D
More Pics soon ;D
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Which reticule are you going to be using for the Reflex? Dot or triangle? Amber colored, I hope? :)
I've used a Reflex before... I didn't think too highly of it. It's nice not having to worry about battery drain (which isn't an issue with Aimpoints), but the one I used did seem a little dark in low-light conditions, regardless of the tritium.
I also wasn't sure if you were making current Delta or BHD Delta, seems to be the latter; which is fine, I suppose. In that case you may want to visit: http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_catalog.asp?cat_id=67&d= (if you haven't already)
They were one of the major gear suppliers for the film. I'd also like to point out that what they wore in BHD is vastly different to what's being worn today...
Regardless, www.militaryphotos.net is a good site for reference, as well as www.specwargear.com
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http://www.onesixthwarriors.com/photos/bhd_gallery/index.htm
Alot of nice close shots from filming BHD that might help, it will give you some good shots of LBE suspenders, vest, chest pouches etc...
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thnx matt, we got photos from the site of the company that delivered the gear for BHD, delta soldier photos from almost all sides
about the headset and radio
(http://www.specwargear.com/images/headset-soldier%20intercom%20headset%208.jpg)
(http://www.specwargear.com/images/headset-soldier%20intercom%20headset%207.jpg)
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Hmm, this is interesting...
So what we have here is a matter of trying to be accurate to a particular time period. Is BAS going to release two Delta addon packs for two seperate time periods?
I think that would be the ideal solution- As many people here were BIG BHD fans, ( Including myself, of course! ) the models you are making would be perfect for BHD scenarios. ( Though they never seem to get made... )
But for those of us who consider themselves to be real SOF afficianados, and have seen what the opeators are wearing these days over in the sandbox, are going to want what is the most realistic, current kit. Which means two different packs... maybe?
Now, I may be talking out the wrong end of my torso here...
but why not do something like this:
try to make the models shape, ( Vest, pouches, packs, helmets, holsters, etc. ) the same for both .pbo's, and simply retexture with OD and three-color desert "pinkies", for modern-day operations?
BTW: The most accurate representation for the most up-to-date kit would be Dockers khaki trousers, Jersey knit polo shirts, and Northface fleece pullovers... with the normal one-man arsenal of HK or M-4 based weapon systems. I guess our security detail operatives should look professionally casual.
This is kind of meant to be a bit tounge-in-cheek, as I'm sure that D-boys would probably dress-out much differently, if they were breaching a door of a large, tango-filled compound. Still- it might be neat for some "protect the Afghan President" missions?
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Well for a first version, we'll use the game woodland cammo and the desert one like seen in the picture.
Also we'll use 6 to 10 custom made weapons by BAS, and some made by other addon makers (with full permission), we'll than keep on updating them, releasing new versions, which hopefully will end only with weapons made by BAS, one of the things that is being discussed is the inclusion of desert versions for the weapons.
My idea, and I quote MY is to make a first version for the DELTA and for the Weapons, and than keep updating them as we get feedback from people, the best way of making things well is letting you guys play and then put the shields and start getting your feedback fire ;D
The Delta are now totally made, I'm currentely finnishing the weapons with Curtis and Frandsen than we'll go into Beta Testing Phase and after sorting all the bugs they will be released, don't ask me for ETA but I can say pretty soon.
Still and as I said, this is my opinion we're still discussing the best way.
Vixer is also working on a tottally new kind of Sights, which is a secret, let's see if he gets it, if he does, than I think you guys are gonna be surprised ;D
The final product will be made paying attention to all possible details,still all we know that it's impossible to have something totally free of bugs, but as normal we want to give you quality and for that we do take some time with details and with tests, I hope to keep on getting your feedback cause you guys do help us much more than what you can think of, and all the pics,links you've given me and opinions have been extremely useful, and I do thank you all for that, I will post more pics very soon, I just wanned to finnish some more weapons to include them in the pics.
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That's Game Cammo? It looks a little different, but still perfect, shouldn't mess with the Cammo, also, in the Pack Make a Civi armed with an M1911a1, (Twaiwan Workshop has a Great one) and set on the West Side, add the CPP to the Pack, because Most Delta Work is under Cover Body Guard work, you should Read Inside Delta Force by Command Sergent Major Eric L. Haney (Ret.) he was one of teh Original Delta Members he was in B Squadron (the Team in Task force Ranger was C Squadron) it talks about his work in Beruit, El Salvador, Iran (operation Desert one) and even some Top Secret Stuff he and his Commrades did, very good book! worth the Read! and it would prove Useful in makeing this Great Addon Gooder Great! ;D any way just a Thought
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Vixer, are those pics from a URL ? I would be interesting in seeing them.
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the pic are taken from here http://www.specwargear.com
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Looks great, finally something to go with LBs.
One thing puzzles me though, is someone making any modern Russian special forces (new models and all) ? Skaven was making some modern Spetz Nazs but is there any progress on them ???.
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I am Norsu ;D
And I'm using your Grosas with your permission ;D
They are almost done,I'm waiting for Vixer to send me some new Alpha Team models, so I can swap the textures to new models, than maybe I'll add some new weapons, I still have to see that ;)
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Is there a Chance of any Rangers or PJs to Go with the Delta Guys, ever? I think ya should, I have some Ideas on just how to go about Modeling the Rangers, I know some Rangers, and my Dad is in the U.S. Army and Knows Several Rangers, He even met a few Delta Operators, but they were retired, if they were still in he probly wouldn't know they were operators or couldn't tell me, with out killing me that is ;)
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yea some new rangers would be awesome ;D ;D
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Rangers use the same stuff everyone else uses, with specific regiments using their own gear (i.e. 75th are/were known for the RACK, although I'm not certain if it's issued to all Rangers nowadays). Frandsen's USMC guys can double for the Rangers, provided the helmets were in woodland.
I personally like to use the goggled and helmeted drivers from that pack to double as SF. :)
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Yeah I was thinking that too about the Marines, but they only have all that gear when they go on extended assignments, but most times they wont where the big huge packs if not Necessary they'd go in wearing the LBE, a Kevlar Vest, NVGs, Gas mask (depending on Mission), and depending on their Weapon other Packs for ammo, like a Grenader is going to wear a special Vest for carrying Grenades, an Ammo Bearer will cary a pack with Ammo Drums, a SAW or M60 Gunner will carry extra Ammo Space also, a Medic will have a Big med Pack (as I mentioned before) and Streacher Bearers would Have a Streacher (hints the name), so you'd need a lot of P3ds but if you got a team to work on it, it shouldn't be to difficult, I have a P3D of a Soldier with out the Bed roll, and a Flash light, that I downloaded and Edited.
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I'll take some Gnarly Screen Shots of the Models I made for Rangers, and Start a New Thread, this one is for Delta, sorry I brought it up ;)
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Thanks to Tales of War for lending us their M249 and M14 from whitch Wetwork made a great Aimpoint,we're currentely in Delta and some Weapons Beta Test Phase,we've been also talking about including a Snow Version of the Delta, there will be more weapons available, besides the already mentioned ones (some posts before),there will be 4 new MP5s with an Acog or an Aimpoint (still discussing that between us), and two more M4s this time with an Aimpoint (Silenced and no Silenced Version), also on the works will be an M24 and maybe a Remington 700 Sniper Riffle.
Also we've been discussing about making Woodland,Desert and Snow versions for the weapons, however I'm afraid the pack may become too big, what do you guys think? Too big I mean a 10 Mbytes Weapons Pack and a 12 Mbytes Delta Pack.
Also I would like to thanks Frandsen,Curt (Wetwork) and Vixer, for the incredable and Precise models they've been making as also for the help and hard work they have given to the Project, You Guys ROCK :thumbsup:
some pics for you (Thanks Tales of War)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/DELTAMG.jpg)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/DeltaSniper.jpg)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/DELTATL.jpg)
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man those look awesome
an M24 would be nice
good work fellas u guys rock
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That's Game Cammo? It looks a little different, but still perfect, shouldn't mess with the Cammo, also, in the Pack Make a Civi armed with an M1911a1, (Twaiwan Workshop has a Great one) and set on the West Side, add the CPP to the Pack, because Most Delta Work is under Cover Body Guard work, you should Read Inside Delta Force by Command Sergent Major Eric L. Haney (Ret.) he was one of teh Original Delta Members he was in B Squadron (the Team in Task force Ranger was C Squadron) it talks about his work in Beruit, El Salvador, Iran (operation Desert one) and even some Top Secret Stuff he and his Commrades did, very good book! worth the Read! and it would prove Useful in makeing this Great Addon Gooder Great! ;D any way just a Thought
I read that book to... It's GREAT!! Could barely leave it alone and when i finished it, I wanted to start it again ;D
About the Civ. clothing with an M1911A1... Good idea!
How about a Civ. Clothing with M1911A1 AND an M4 SOPMOD? Like the Delta Operators used in Afghanistan(when on protective detail, and the likes)
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Could the model for the machine-gunner be changed so that he is wearing his goggles over his eyes? I do not know if that would be very fitting, but I have seen it done elsewhere.
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Dont do TOO many weapon versions. One of the recent trends in addons that has been bugging me is addon makers release packs of 20 different weapons or units with only very minute differences in them.
A perfect example would be FlipeR's M4s. While these are obviously great guns, is it really necessary to model EVERY single different variation? I highly doubt a soldier would worry about his gun being silenced when hes firing off m203 rounds.
Please try and trim your weapons pack down to what is really necessary :)
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yea to many weapons isnt always a good thing specialy when its 10 megs worth of pevious weapons just camo u dont need all of them there nice weapons i would be glad 2 get them like in the pic
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Just to note a Remington M700 and M24 are pretty much the same thing.
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Wow It's looking Great! I have an Idea, you Could Release the Pack with Only a few guns, then add More Guns in Updates. that way It wouldn't Be a HUGE DL (maybe Initialy) then bunches of smaller ones. also Spread the Different Cammo Guys around, I for one Really only Need the Woodland Guys, and maybe Desert, but Billy Bob, might only Like Arctic Warfare Missions, and HATE Woodland Stuff, so that's something to Consider (though, I'd Probly get the Snow Cammo Guys anyway just cause ya'll are doing such good Work :))
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I highly doubt a soldier would worry about his gun being silenced when hes firing off m203 rounds.
That's not necessarily true. You don't just go firing off the M203 just because you spot a few guys...
Anyhow, Skaven:
You may want to make SAW vest/pouches for the machine gunners --
Examples:
http://www.lightfighter.com/item.html?PRID=1024401
http://www.lightfighter.com/item.html?PRID=1285189
http://www.lightfighter.com/item.html?PRID=729954
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yea u guys are know for realism other wise he would be reloading the m16 mags to often
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Actually, that brings up a question. The SAW is able to take M16 mags -- why hasn't anyone replicated this feature?
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Because, the SAW would Then Sound Like an M16, because the Weapon Sound is in the Magazine (Just a part of the Game Engine, if it Makes Sense, BIS won't do it!) ;D
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Thats true. If anyone has the HK pack, try firing the OICW with it's normal mags then try it with the ingame M16 mags.
Also why wouldn't you guys use OTWs SAW pack. It's got everythingin it, the Minimi version, the US M249 version, the PARA Version, Special Forces Version, and the M240 MG aswell. Most with scopes also attached.
But your SAW is slightly wrong, what you've done is crossed it the Minimi and M249. You've used the foregrip of the Minimi and the stock of the M249. The version which youv'e used is incorrect. The same incorrect version is in Ghost Recon.
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yea that foregrip isnt the one the M249 SAW has it should look like this
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The OTW scopes are ugly.
The reddot on the SAW is a cheap airsoft reddot:
http://www.wargameclub.com/cgi-bin/cart/shopper.cgi?itm_items_OT-RD-SQS((cat_category_Reddot%20Scopes((1
One other thing.. if it's supposed to be the US versions of the FNMINIMI and FNMAG, then why isn't the stock on the M240 black? :D
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Excellent work! Cant wait to be able to use these. My vote goes to a seperate weapon and soldier pack to allow people to get the items they want without any additions they may not need to use. Just my 2 cents.
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Cool work guys now the TOW Mod and BAS team works together we will see some kickass addons all the addons from BAS and TOW rocks man I love you guys ;)
Keep up the goodwork ;)
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How about beta-c magazines for m4s?
I liked the way how the HK Pack guys coped with them.
They didn't have to come up with a another entry in the editor, instead their G36 accepted both standard and beta-c magazines, and the change of the mags affected the weapon model!
Second thing, do plan to put all the stuff into a single pbo?
IMHO the best solution would be the old STT style, something like:
desertdeltas.pbo
woodlanddeltas.pbo
deltasweapons.pbo
So much from me.
Keep up the good work, guys!!!
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I have to agree with .357 SIG.
And I'd have to take it a step further, Lost Bro's HK Mod's 1/2, are without a doubt among the most comprehensive and detailed mod's yet. Of course, I'm a bit biased, as I love all things HK...
But it was soooo cool to be able to switch mgazines and weapon models with a press of a button. It just makes sense to do the same thing with the M4 pack.
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Just Hurry Up and Release Some thing! :D I'm Getting Impatient!
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im gorwing impatient to i really want these delta operators
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News than ;D
We're at beta testing already and sorting all the bugs we find.
One of the things that is giving us headaches is the NVG model soldier, making it work properly is being a though cookie.
Also we'be been improovong the weapons as we test them, we heave a lot of surprises as well as a lot of new weapons.
We have 13 new weapons, besides the M4s pack, Reflex,Aimpoint,ACOG,NV all Silenced and non Silenced versions, we now also have an MP5 Aimpoint TOW's M14 with an Aimpoint mabe by Wetwork,TOW's M249 and a brand new M24 which in my opinion is one of the best Sniper Rifles I ever saw, Wetwork just doesn't stop surprising me. This weapons will be our Weapons Pack.
I'll post some pics soon, I think you guys will like them ;)
If everything runs well, as soon as we sort all the bugs out, they will be available, probably very soon ;D
Just hang in there and thanks for all your help and precious feedback, you guys Rock :thumbsup:
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sound good please when u post pics post some of the M24 please its my favorite weapon in the whole world
im defintly looking foward to u guys realesing
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Now i reckon there will be a separate weaponpack, but how about splitting soldier pack into woodland and desert ones?
As we all know, having to many unoff. addons may couse in "cannot memmorymap..." thingie. So separating the soldiers would allow us to make use of eg. Addon Menager or Mod directories when we'd want to play either desert addons or "green" ones.
Oh, one more thing, ehm, how does your M4's magazine cpp entry look like?
Well, i'm hoping that it is "flpm4a1mag". It deasn't have to require Fliper's M4s, but at least make it compatibile (i'm pretty sure that he same entries wouldn't couse in OFP dropping to desktop).
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I'm sure it's Possible, but May require FlipeR's M4s, but I got thoes any way ;D
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As PunkerSXDX said, we can't include those mags as part of the possible mags to use in our weapons, since all users will need to have FlipeR's pack for using our Delta, or the game won't let you use our Delta saying missing *****mag class addon.
However the M4 Mag from the game will probably be included.
I didn't take any pics yesterday forgive me for that,but yesterday I had a lot of work to make, I will probably take today.
More News ;D
Wetwok is modeling a new kind of NVGs the PVS-14 essentially because we were informed that the late ones we used are a little out of date, expect a nice modification do that model ;)
registered_fugitiv: The M24 is also one of my favourite Sniper Rifles, and I hope to see you so much happy as I am, Wetwork made a really great M24 ;)
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Is it possible to clean up and improve the night vision image then, or is it still hardcoded as is?
I've played with gen 3 NODs and it MUCH superior in clarity to the PVS-5's (US Gen. 2) that are in OPFP.
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We've been talking about that, as also about a new kind of Binoculars, but so far I don't think anyone was able to find a way to do it :-\
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ill have to take ur word for it ;D
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Is it possible to clean up and improve the night vision image then, or is it still hardcoded as is?
I've played with gen 3 NODs and it MUCH superior in clarity to the PVS-5's (US Gen. 2) that are in OPFP.
My Dad is in the U.S. Army and he say the NVGs in the game once and said that they looked Just like all the NVGs he's ever used. But he used the old ones, today there is a Thermo Sensor in it as well whatch BHD and in the Sceen when the Delta Guys Sneek up on that big Gun and Put it out of Commision, you'll see the Explosions turn White like a Heat Sensor. But that's Probly one of thoes Engine things ::) Just Keep On Keepin' on!
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could u maybe post some screen shots
and with that m4 with grenade launcher from the mh47e movie shouldnt the greanade sight be down seeing that it would get infront of the acog sight witch u would use more often???
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pix :D
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I'm back, computers been buggered for a week but now I'm back.
The Edge, I know that the red dot scope on the OTW MG pack is a holograhic type used in airsoft. But that's one mistake, and about the M240 stock being black, again just one little mistake.
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Sorry for the delay on the pics you guys requested, finnaly my ftp is back online, here they are ;D
Thanks to FlipeR for the base M4s.
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/DeltaMP5.jpg)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/DeltaM24.jpg)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/DeltaM4M203.jpg)
(http://pwp.netcabo.pt/0143440901/DeltaM24SWS.jpg)
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Holy Moses how fekkin' sweet! ;D
Can't wait! Keep it up! ;)
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Wow! Thoes Look Great! I'm Diggin the MP5 that looks awsome. but I've Noticed all Your Screenies are of the Dessert Guys, are you still doing Woodland? ???
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sweet that M24 is so nice
and the M4
and the MP5
and the M24 with night vision scope
nice touch with the laser dot
cant wait u guys rule ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Yes the Woodland is finneshed, the Desert still needs some improovements. ;D
registered_fugitiv I can presume you trusted my word than ;D
Wetwork did both the MP5 and the M24, and he still as a lot of other surprises ;)
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I think He Likes it, I know I do! ;D
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yep i guess i trusted ur word i didnt think it would be bad seeing some of ur guys other work its twice as good with the night vision attachment :thumbsup:
its just so beutiful :'(
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It is so sweeeeeeeeeeet from what I see from the pictures keep tha damn good work up guys ;)
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holy shit wow good job!
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Does the nightvision rifle scope actually work? :)
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The new video is pretty kickass.
One thing that bugged me though is the sound for the M4s. You should use FlipeR's sounds so that the two packs are compatible. FlipeR's M4 sounds are already very realistic and they fit in well with the sounds from BIS guns.
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good j0b BAS, I'm proud of you.
WOW, It's been 4 months since I've played FA
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The movie was made by NAGUAL, whait until you see his missions ;)
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The Nightvision scope on the gun works haven't you seen the movie cooooooool ;D
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Mr. Thundermaker -
I'll comment on the fact that the sound of the SOPMODs are quite accurate for the BAS Delta team. As far as I've found, and independently agreed upon by others, the sound for the current ingame SOPMODs are good to go.
Cheers mate, and thank you for your concern
Any other questions, comments, concerns...drop me a line!
ofpeditor
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Yes the sounds ;D
I think the sounds next to the NVGs were the worst thing to make ;D
First, it depends where you fire the weapon, in a Hall, in free countryside, inside a house... To get everybody like a sound is a little bit difficult,it's a little bit like music I supose, for some it sounds too high, for some it sounds too low, for some it sounds too distorted, others prefer some more reverb, cleaner, less cleaner this can be higly discussed here.
Since we made the sounds (after changing sounds between each others more than 20 times ;D ) this is how we've done them.
First we discussed between each others which sounds to use, we had original sounds with/without reverb, with/without distortion some with a little delay... After a long discussion ;D we finnaly chose some.
After getting the final sounds from Frandsen,I've given the fire sound a little bit more punch (something a lot of the weapons from our game miss) how? I've given a little bit distortion to the beggining as well as I've unbalanced the sound making the start a litle bit high and the finnish a progressevely low sound.
Also I've added a little bit reverb, so that when you fire a single shot, the sound stays in the air kind of giving a feeling of an echo (reverb/chorus effect), (ofcourse depending on where you are and also not too exagerated).
For example the reload sound, was a small mix of sounds I've made, I've used for example the sound of an empty mag falling on the ground on the middle, so... as you guys can see we had a lot of attention to sounds also, I'm sorry if we can't please evrybody, but trust me, this is something that really is impossible to get a total agreement, if we could we would. :-\
However and since the Delta are in beta testing and finalizing some small details, if you guys have some better sounds, than please drop them here, we'll sure try them, and if they are better they will be used instead ;)
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Your choppers and sodliers and stuff, ownz! I have seen two of your movies and they are fantastic. :D
Hope to see more fine work from you.
And I noticed one thing with the Nam pack's chinook is that you can run around inside it like in the first movie that featured your chinnok... :P
Is it because some of your staff work togheter with them or you people helped them out? Anyways nice work and keep upthe good work. And quality is better than quantity.
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Sorry to disappoint you but the pro tec helmets are being replaced by the CGF Gallet TC - 2000 Combat Helmet.
Here's a link to a shop that sells them. http://www.lightfighter.com/item.html?PRID=1109960
If you still don't belive me take a look at this gallery, which has pics of US Special Forces in training.
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/USSOCOM_Training
Here's one of the Pics
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Just watched the video, they're looking pretty damn good, nice choice of music BTW :D
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where can I get this video?
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http://www.opflash.org/wolf/bas_deltaforce.zip (http://www.opflash.org/wolf/bas_deltaforce.zip)
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Sorry to disappoint you but the pro tec helmets are being replaced by the CGF Gallet TC - 2000 Combat Helmet.
There are newer versions of that helmet out. And it is not the ONLY helmet being used by SF-types.
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I've seen the movie.
No. 1 the sound of the M4 is wrong as said before
No. 2 sound from the M4 is also delayed, you see the flash but there's a delay in sound, there shouldn't be in that close a distance.
No. 3 the M24 cocking is too quick, if you did it that quick the empty round would'nt be ejected properly before the new round is loaded. (I'm not sure on whether or not this may happen but the cocking is too fast)
But the video is very good, other then those probs' very nice models, also like the camlebak.
The Edge, I've bothered to post up some info on that helmet
maybe you could do the same for these "newer types".
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No. 2 sound from the M4 is also delayed, you see the flash but there's a delay in sound, there shouldn't be in that close a distance.
this would be the video not ingame do u really think a team like BAS would have sounds that come after that come that long after the flash
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Yes I think that registered_fugitiv awnsered your question.
Regarding the sounds, I've already talked about it in my previews thread, however if anyone as better sounds please adress them to me, they will be used if they are better ;)
Let me just mention also, that we have guys like Damocles and ofpEditor (which I can never thank enough) that are in the army now, some of them being highly ranked, some of them being in the SF, they don't let anything slip, if it's bad or unreal they will mention it alright, trust me it's their job at BAS and they do it incredably well, for example Damocles until he as the Acog sight like he wants he already wrote 4 times in our forum what must be changed ;D
You guys won't believe the amount of times we've redone things to meet their instructions, from sounds, to sights, to texture details... you name it.
Also the Delta from the movie are not the last Delta, we've already made two updates to them, like adding shadows to the weapons, something that was missing, like making improoved sights, improoved textures...
I think you guys will like them so much as we do, also I have to thank SelectThis which with his vast experienced is taking them beyond what we think was possible (you'll see what I mean),he's doing that "thing" only he knows how to do ;) Wetwork is a Factory not a modeler, he makes things unbeliavably fast and precise,Frandsen is always ready to help,the base was made from him and all updates have his hand too.
My main preocupation now is, what more can I do between my knowledge to make them better ???
Am I too bad for them, or are they already too good for me ;D
That's why STT is working on them now, they already go away beyond my knowledge and expectations ;D
and Tigershark... well a good team needs great leader, well that's him ;D I think I mentioned everyone this time ???
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well that took awhile to read
muhahahahhaaha realism kicks ass
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Als olove the detail to the M4 and the ACOG.
You've also put the screws on the top of the reciever, something which alot of M4 makers miss,
the carrying handle on the M4 is detachable to fit scopes.
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Why not use the game m16 sound on the m4?? it really isnt that far away from the real thing. M16/M4 doesnt make that much noise when being fired. Also it will keep the same kind of weapons with the same sound, instead of having 5 different versions of same weapons line with 5 different sounds (example)
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The Edge, I've bothered to post up some info on that helmet
maybe you could do the same for these "newer types".
I don't need to, as the newer versions of the TC-2000 are listed right on Lightfighter.
Maybe you oughta email Brad himself to find out what else is being used.
Anyhow, BAS have hinted that they're basing these models on BHD rather than current issue, so arguing about the helmet is a moot point with them. I've already argued about the black nylon to no avail... We all know how effective black gear in a desert environment is. ;)
Understand that as far as gear goes, it honestly doesn't seem like anyone wants to go "authentic". Which is fine, I suppose... it's just not 100% realistic. Artistic license and all.
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Fine then go with the sissy skateboarders helmet, just don't blame me for the one shot head kill, guess you can't cause you'll be already dead.
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Also the Delta from the movie are not the last Delta, we've already made two updates to them, like adding shadows to the weapons, something that was missing, like making improoved sights, improoved textures...
From what I can see from films and pictures of your guns they have a prity high face count, and it would be a pity that down to about 300 faces on the model other see, so the shadow apears. if you havent done it that way plase tell me how you did it cause i have made some very high face count guns and they dosen have shadow because ot that.
STGN
you can see fore you self on my page
www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/
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what helmet we choose does not matter on hit points every helmet is 1 shot 1 kill because the head hit point is one shape on the soldier model
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I do know that, I was reffering to the "real world", not "OFP world", not "the Matrix". You want to make the addon as real to Delta as possible, the real Delta may had ditched protecs and gone for something else with a little more protection.
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the K pot, or any other Helmet in the U.S. Aresenal, couldn't stop an AK bullet at Point Blank besides Delta Dont Care about Being Shot if they do things Right, the Enemy wont have time to Shoot, they're More worried about Hitting their Heads
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Delta Dont Care about Being Shot if they do things Right, the Enemy wont have time to Shoot, they're More worried about Hitting their Heads
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Well, I'm sure there are quite a few guys out there that would disagree with you on that.
The teenage armchair comments are a bit over the top these days. I suggest some of you kids calm down some and stop quoting BHD so much.
::)
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While I would disagree that they, ( Delta operatives ) are not afraid of being shot in the head; I would venture that that the choice of a smaller, less-armored helmet is about their need for speed and less encumberance. The Protechs probably obscure vision much less than a full-sized PASGT style helmet, but provides the protection needed for parachuting, moving in small, cramped spaces like the interior of aircraft and armored vehicles and moving in dark confined areas like alleys and hallways.
There are no real pro's that aren't afraid of being badly injured and/or killed during a mission, they just deal with the odds better. Training and talent help make up for inadequacies in weapons and equipment, but they DO die, and leave pieces of themselves on the battlefield from time to time.
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For fuck sake.....enoguh already!!! I'm sick of this constant bickering everytime we announce a project and try and share our progress.
Everyone is a friggin armchair expert......
It's not enough that we put so much dedication into these addons...we have to put up with this crap as well.
If this continues....we will just cease posting any news.
How about showing some appreciation for the efforts of those who FREELY make NEW units for you to play with and stop the "addon maker X...you have no idea what you are modelling because my dad is in the army and he says blah,blah,crap,crap"
We are doing the best we can and "simulating" Delta's of the BHD time frame the best we can. Why BHD....mainly because Deltas haven't been involved in much (that we know about) since Somalia....nothing that requires military clothing anyway (they have been wearing civvies in Afghanistan)
Please.....I'm sick of reading all the negativity around here. It really begins to create an impression of an ungrateful whining community and makes addon makers wonder why the hell they even pour so much of themselves into this.
Please think before you post....is this constructive? or is it simply a?@post showing everyone how much I know about military subjects at the expense of chipping away at the morale of the addon maker?
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amen to that
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Hey just saw the Mk23 SOCOM on BAS website.
Very cool. Looks alot better then HK pack's SOCOM.
Are you guys gonna make a non-Silenced SOCOM aswell?
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Tigershark,
Don't let them get you down, there are more that apprectiate, respect, and are in giddy awe of the work coming from BAS then those that quibble about things they no nothing about and contribute even less then the sound of their own high-pitched voices.
Your news is not wasted, though it may seem so by the responses of plebians on the boards- know that.
We who use your Pavehawks, Chinook, Littlebirds everyday and eagerly await everything else that you so freely and excellently design and distribute are behind you.
So please, nolite te bastardes coborumdorum- don't let the bastards get you down.
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For Tigershark: I'm not sure who that rant was aimed at, but as it was made just after mine, I hope it wasn't directed at me. I'd be happy to discuss it with you in PM...
I agree with everything you said, I've seen so many mod teams and forums crippled due to the cruelty of people who have no vested interest in the mod's creativity, but expect the team to satisfy their every whim.
That having been said, I was wondering if Nagual was going to update his Littlebird mission, with the new units and aircraft, as BAS releases them? Also, I remember someone releasing a very cool, and quite comprehensive campaign/mission pack for Delta. I was wondering if Nagual was going to do something similar?
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I haven't posted on this subject but i've been following it closely.
Like the man said, don't let em get you down..There are hundreds of us who don't post much but read the posts and download the addons and appreciate them immensly!
When it boils down to it, who really cares what type of helmet the guys wear? I know realism is everything but it doesn't matter that much, its like saying that the "Warning:Rotor blades" sign on the blackhawk is 3 inches to the left of where it should be....nobody notices in the ehat of combat. Just glancing it as you jump from the chopper and you realise detail, not wrong placing.
its the same as this. You'll see the differences and 'faults' in the screenshots but when you get the addon you wont care or notice them! Small asthetic issues don't matter!
Looking foward to this one BAS...as always your excelling and pionering a new level of detail in this fine game of ours!
Vyper
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There are larger issues to contend with if pointing out details makes such a big impact on morale and is publicly expressed as "whining"...
Feel free to peruse www.socnetcentral.com, www.assaultweb.net, or www.ar15.com
Lots of guys in service (white and black, especially. And I don't mean the color of their skin) right now you could talk to. Especially at SOCNET.
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Lay off already, noone cares about your continuous, pointless "whining" but you Edge:(
Vyper is right, there is a lot of people who love your addons but who dont post their comments often enough. Then there are the people who go over every inch of an addon looking for a minor detail that they can come complain about it on the forums, trying to make themselves look "cool" by claiming they are ex-military people and are "experts on the subject". The only thing that they dont realize is noone believes there crapastic stories and noone cares.
BTW, I am still playing around with youre Littlebirds which I love. I started making a cool mission for the MH-6 but got bored with it when I ran into problems with OFPs mission editor(im still a begginner lol). Maybe Ill finish it over xmas break. As for this thread it should probably be closed too and just open a new one when they are released.
What is it less than 6 days til Xmas now, you BAS guys better be working hard ;D
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@Edge...the point is, this type of thread appears in every single forum I visit....everyone trying to push their own agenda with relation to our addons. Everything is about compromise....and we also have lives we have to lead as well. If we were to implement everyone's input (which in many cases can conflict from post to post with everyone claiming to be an expert on the topic) we would never get them done.
Morale of the team is fine but I must say my morale has been affected by this when the achievement of the addon is belittled by someone pointing out such a minor thing as "the helmet is all wrong". Sure we could make a 2 helmet version and then you guys could enjoy downloading the 200mb file with every possible Delta configuration ever known to man. Is this realistic?
Look...I wasn't specifically targetting this at anybody...I just feel these comments are not CONSTRUCTIVE anymore...just a forum for everyone to mouth of about their knowledge.
It's a game...and at BAS we strive for realism...but we also have to make compromises and design decisions...as all computing professionals must do when they work on a project.
I'm humbly asking that people think a little bit more before they post. Ask yourself is it THAT important that it would detract from the realism of the addon. In my mind I feel it would be more important to get weapons correctly modelled than a helmet. Don't you all agree? Seeing as 1) you see them from 1st person perspective 2) you actually use them in game....they are the core of what you do....shoot the enemy.
I am just getting frustrated at seeing post after post, email after email of people implying that we are doing it all wrong and that if we implement their suggestion our addons would be perfect.
Don't get me wrong...we are always open to CONSTRUCTIVE criticism.....but some of the suggestions being made are so frivilous I can't believe they have launched entire barrages of posting.
Please....just a little balance here peeps......if you have a genuine issue with the way a rifle fires, a Littlebird flies, and Blackhawk handles....these are all great things we can take on board and improve upon. But keep in mind we cannot make every known configuration of Deltas or the filesize would be so rediculous I bet we'd cop flak for it. Already the weapon pack is much larger than we'd like....and potentially getting bigger.
I know this seems like a rant....but I'm only human like the rest of you....and I'm getting a little tired of all the bickering.
The BAS team and I just wanna make good quality addons cause we love this game so much and would like to share the fruits of our labour with you, the community. We have a UNREAL team of extremely talented modders and real world operators from various branches of the US Military who "consult" to us. We do notn wanna be "gods" of the OFP community....we just wanna see our projects come to frution. Please remember that we do this hard work to satisfy are own desire to see these units in OFP. We are not a company like BIS from which you can demand to have certain things included or changed. In some cases it's just the language that offends me. "You should..." instead of "One suggestion might be...". I think it just shows a general lack of appreciation and consideration when interacting with someone that wants to do something that you can benefit from FOR FREE and with NO EFFORT on your part.
We do the best we can to please you guys.....but we can't please everyone. We realised this a long time ago....and as such, make design decisions for very carefully thought out reasons (like the MP5 on the LB....yeah it's silenced which it shouldn't be....but at least it's a standard OFP model and doesn't require a new addon to be shipped with the LB).
Is this all unreasonable??? Tell me if I'm all alone here or if I've been able to convince at least a couple of people to tone it down a little.
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Great words Tigershark m8 ;)
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A lot of us already get all that Tigershark ;) just the few military 'experts' like to stroke their egos whenever possible. BAS addons are absolutely top notch and none can dispute that, you guys do great work. I just hope people learn what constructive criticism is and keep their selfserving oppinions to themselves. As always keep up the great work BAS :thumbsup:
And to all you ignorant arm-chair addon makers :moon: don't like an addon - Make one yourself!
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Sorry,
Seeing how I was the moron who started the whole helmet thing. But I want to make a few things clear to some of you guys.
1. I'm not a demanding person. When I posted up the reply about the helmets, I did not say "make these or'll never look at this addon" (I know no one has said that about me, but it's to those who are maybe thinking it)
2. I'm not a part of the Military, I'm a member of the Army Cadet Force and will soon be joining the Army. I am not an expert in that field of Military, I never said I was.
3. I'm looking for to this Addon alot. I've seen the Delta Force done by HK pack and was very disappointed with it. So I'm very looking for to these 'D-Boys' and their 'toys' (weapons).
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tiger,
do you and BAS a favor....don't give updates to the community through the forums (your webpage is good enough). you guys already have your experts and have pretty much decided on what you are going to do in respect to your addons. i'm getting a bit tired of all these little "teaser" pics that are constantly being posted on the forums (when the product is not really due for release for another month or two), all it does is get gamers excited and then they try to critique it themselves, which is something that you guys don't need and don't want. i understand how you want to keep the public informed, but the only info we need (and want) is when the final product is being released. i would recommend for you not to release pics or videos until the finished product is DEFINITELY getting released within 3-5 days. i've been patiently waiting on your addons, but it truly sucks to see all this work (through pics and video) and then wait a month or two (mh-60 for example) for the addon to be released. a simple heads up or notification of what you are working on is enough (one pic) and when you KNOW it is ready for release, then bombard us with the photos and video. man, you already know that i'm a big fan of your work and i hate to see you let loose like you did in your previous posts, but i think there is something to learn from this.
1.don't give your public too much info, unless you need help.
2.don't give teasers for work that won't be done for a long
time.
you know how the public is and now you and your team must adjust accordingly. just my 2 cents worth.
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I'd Have to Agree with Bug Kill, I'm a little disgusted with this whole argument, why post things on forums if you don't want Imput? just put that Info on your site, and leave us out, unless you want help (I know that's a little Redundant), and to thoes of you who said, "why don't you learn how to make addons," well that's kind of what I'm doing ::) but it's hard work so I understand, I'm not Griping Complaning or any thing, I was trying to help, but I guess you don't want that, so I'm done with this Thread, I'll check your Site for Updates. Peace!
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Tiger,
The rants from these people are as silly as they are numerous. I think your team has some of the best addons that i have used. As i do suck with making addons I rely on addon makers to both create great addons and have them work great as well. Your team has made the some of the greatest addons i have ever used. To these wannabe whinning addon Users that come out and rant at a good group of addon makers, I would like to repeat something that was said before, If you dont like an addon Make it your self!
As to the last statement I like to know how the addon is coming along so i can think about how to use them :)
Keep up The GREAT WORK!!!!!
HOOOOOOAAAAH!!!
(paitently awaiting the Delta Force and Blackhawks) :D
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Guys this is a little bit a silly conversation, we show our work for you guys to know how things are going if you don't want to see than we won't show them , really not much to discuss in here ;D
We don't release teasers or anyting, we just show how our work is going along, if you guys can't control yourselfes, it's ok for me no more pics nor news than, only at the end ;)
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skaven,
just the release dates will do me just fine. a simple post to let everyone know that the project is still continuing is all that is needed. no more discussions or pics (until the end), just give us the real deal when it is done. keep up the great work.
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sure mate, no more pics, ETA don't know yet, we're talking about it excately at this moment.
However this is strange, as a user I like to see how the other addon makers are going with their work :-\
But you guys asked to don't know things than you won't know them, only at the final ;)
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Hey skaven, and bas, first off i would like to say you guys are doing an excellent job. I really enjoy your addons and i am anxiously awaiting your delta and blackhawks, like i imagine most of the community is. I myself enjoy your pics and keeping us updated on the progress of your work, and if its not to much trouble i hope you guys keep on updating us, despite the advice from certain users i.e. bugkill. As for all the crap thats been posted lately dont take it to heart its like a lot of people have already said, its just a bunch of armchair experts talking s@!t. Dont let a few bad apples spoil the whole tree ;) .
Thanks again
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i never had a problem with updates until all this crap that is being talked about on some of these threads (which stem from the pics) and the fact that you guys don't have a definite release date. i've had enough updates, pics, teasers, etc. right now, i just want a download link and nothing else. you guys at BAS have given more than enough "progress" pics and there are just some things that addon makers just need to keep to themselves. hell, i've seen so many in-game pics that i'm saying to myself "why isn't it released now? looks done to me", each time i see them. i'm not on the team, so i don't know what works needs to be done, but just looking at your pics makes me wonder why there is no release date even set. i know you guys got high standards and that is why it's taking so long to release, but that is the main reason why i say just continue with the work until it's done and the only update that i'm concerned with is your release date info. it's a bit of "overkill" when it comes to these addons and i feel that it just needs to tone down until there is a definite release date. i've gasped enough at the work you guys have done so far, right now i'm ready to just get my hands on it. i always believe in keeping your work private and not give the public too much info. just give very little during the process of creating, so then i can appreciate it more when the final product comes.
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I understand your position bugkill, but I also think you should respect the persons that like to see the updates, however, there is something I can't understand, if you can't whait for our work to be ready seing the pics than just don't look at the BAS****** threads, take a look only at our main website, where we post the most important news :-\
If we are taking some time to make them is only to suit your interests and the community ones, if you can't accept that, than please don't make our hard work worth :-\
We are only working for you, at the exchange for nothing, maybe respecting that and the way we work including pics ;)could be a better option :-\
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first, this is not about respecting other people who like updates. i'm not on your team at BAS and that means that i have no "say so" on how you guys go about promoting your addons, so in the end...my opinion means "nada". all i'm saying is that it is getting a bit overboard with all these "updates" and now people are flaming each other or questioning the way you guys are doing the addon on these forums. the updates you do at your website is fine, but to bring it into the ofpec forums is a bit of a mistake. that is why you are getting the type of posts that piss alot of people off. i just think that the updates belong on your website and not in forum threads. finally, i find it regrettable that you feel that i don't respect the work you guys are doing. i have not made not one bad comment about you and the team at BAS. yet, you feel that you could try and tell me "We are only working for you, at the exchange for nothing, maybe respecting that and the way we work including pics could be a better option" as if i don't have a clue of what you guys are doing. you need to go back and read my previous posts and then you will see that i totally understand and respect the work you guys do. i'm not flaming you, but your comment was not warranted and i'm intitled to my own opinion. i'm just one of those people that feel that there has been enough talk about this addon and now it time to wait for the finished product. all your pics and videos feel like "teasers" at this moment, given the long wait it has been for these addons. now, i'm not trying to put pressure on you or demand changes, i'm just giving my opinion on the issue......nothing more, nothing less.
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Ok I think we all understood your position now, thanks for droping it to us. ;)
Unfortunately, you'll have to whait as everybody else, so please, this comments are perfectely unecessary, so don't make me Lock my own thread ;D
I really don't which to keep this conversation, it's a little bit pointless, it's Bas's thread, so we can update pics always we want, it's in your choice to look or not to look ;)
The Delta are very close to be finneshed, very very close indeed, but I ain't gonna tell you when, this weekend? 4 days ? 7 days? 10 days? ???
Really , really soon ;) A lof of surprises have been added, a lot of new weapons, I think you guys are gonna like them so much as we do,a lot of new things a lot of surprises I'm not gonna reveal anything more ;)
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I just noticed you removed the CH-53 and MH-53 from the project list on your site, PLEASE say you didnt cancel those :o
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With the new weapons you are making for the Delta team, do you plan on updating the configs of the SOAR pilots to use the new MP5s? (On a side note, if you do plan on revisiting the SOAR pilots, there is this teensy weensy texture error that shows up on certain LODs, where the bottom of the front of the pilots vest goes white.)
Further, do you plan on replacing the onboard silenced MP5 on the Littlebird with a new MP5, since you have made the model for it? This really is not necessary, just wondering.
By the way, if the answer is simply "no" to both, I'm fine with that, I am trying to tiptoe around the issue of suggestions with all the recent debate. Keep up the good work. ;D
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About the MP5SD3's, considering that the M4 SOPMOD is replacing many of the older silienced MP5's, it's perfectly logical to issue the silenced models to pilots and other crew members. I think BAS should keep the current weapons, it's less work for them, and the silenced version looks better in my opinion.
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screamingeagle_101, it's enough, there is no perssonel issues here and no perssonel nothing, we talked and we settled things, it's over, I'm also sorry if I hurt any of you guys ;)
Chomps, we have two new pilots with different cammos ;)
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*sigh of relief*
thanks Skaven
Will the Mk23 SOCOM be released with the Delta weapons?
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not at the first version, maybe later ;)
We plain to make some new weapons later to come with the Seals ;)
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I just noticed you removed the CH-53 and MH-53 from the project list on your site, PLEASE say you didnt cancel those :o
Scorpio is no longer on the Ballistics team, the H-53 projects have been indefinately postponed.
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Chomps, we have two new pilots with different cammos ;)
Sweet, my next question would have been if you were going to release a desert camo version, which I guess you just answered there. ;D
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Scorpio is no longer on the Ballistics team, the H-53 projects have been indefinately postponed.
Well that really sucks, Im sure im not the only one who was really looking forward to these two choppers :'(
And it seems kind of stupid but I guess you guys had a reason, or something like that...
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screamingeagle_101, you said,
"Hate to be a square but, the M4 wouldn't be compact enough to be carried by pilots OK.
*waiting for the angry response from users who are trying to kill me*
I think you totally misunderstood my post. I said,
"About the MP5SD3's, considering that the M4 SOPMOD is replacing many of the older silienced MP5's, it's perfectly logical to issue the silenced models to pilots and other crew members. I think BAS should keep the current weapons, it's less work for them, and the silenced version looks better in my opinion."
That meant that the M4 SOPMOD is replacing many older MP5SD3's in combat units, so it's logical that Army helo pilots could be issued some of the older silenced MP5's, rather than the un-silenced models.
I didn't say anything about chopper pilots using M-4's, though the SOAR's might have more use for it.
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the SOAR pilots use the MP5K variant (in slang "Skinny-popper")
;) just wanted to you to know that
http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/somalia/glos16.asp
MP-5K - A German submachine gun that fires 9mm rounds. The pilots called them "skinny-poppers."
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Scorpio is no longer on the Ballistics team, the H-53 projects have been indefinately postponed.
Well that really sucks, Im sure im not the only one who was really looking forward to these two choppers :'(
And it seems kind of stupid but I guess you guys had a reason, or something like that...
I'm on freelance now...i'm still working on it. No matter
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Ok I've deleted that reply. Just forget what I said.
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Happy to hear you work on the H-53's scorpio m8 ;)
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looking good, dunno if its been asked but will u be planning on redoing the Rangers?
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Cool pics of the Delta guy and his gear on your site. Where did you get them from?
I suppose that he IS a member of Delta, although he's wearing a balaclava, the eyes are blotched out behind the goggles.
They look quite recent so I guess you did a good thing by ignoring me about changing the helmet.
Anyway I'm glad your going to do some Rangers and SEALs to go with them, but are you also gonna make some US Special Forces like those from the SF Groups?
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yea some Green barrets would be cool seeing no one seems to make them and there an awesome special operations group
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we did mention the SFOD-A in a meeting we had, but we are pretty blocked up as far as projects go
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Is BAS still expecting to release something before Christmas,
I.E. BH's & Delta's??? ;)
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Here goes the anwsers than ;)
First we are finnishing the Delta, we're trying hard to release them on time, but it will be hard. :-\
We're finishing the desert weapons as well as STT is making the radio like in the Nam Pack to be used like a weapon not being part of the model.
Also I'm afraid we ain't gonna use the NVG model, specially because so far we couldn't make it work properly and automatic, so until we figure that out it won't be released, maybe in a second version :-\
Next we'll be working on the Seals and some armoured vehicles, FAVs and so on. and than maybe the Rangers,we'll see ;D
Also thanks for evrybody who as been emailing me and sending me PMs to be our beta testers, but unfortunately we already have a lot of beta testers so we really don't need more, we even have beta testers playing only MP missions to see if our boys are distinguished in battle ;D
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EXCELLENT!
On behalf on OFPer's everywhere I'd like to thank eveyone on the BAS team for all their Hard work & dedication to bringing all these Addon's to fruition.
May Santa and his International Dwarf-throwing team rain gifts upon you all ;D
MERRY CHRISTMAS BAS TEAM!!!
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the OH-58D's and the MH-47E are finished so theres a chance of a christmas release there, as far as the air guys are concerned (skaven just explained what the ground guys are doing) we have the MH-60L's to finish off (just one or two textures left) then we move (finally) onto the AH-1W and UH-1N, this is the main group of modellers/skinners, but there will still be people like Bishop carrying on with the RAH-66
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So are you gonna make your Xmas deadline or not?
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I never said I was gonna release them for Christmas, someone said, I didn't, altrough I liked the idea so I let the idea flow without dening it (big mistake I think :P), you guys have been with us for a long time now, some for more than a year, even longer than me ;D
As a BAS menber I would like to give you guys that and much more so I would like to make it on time, but it will be hard,really hard :-\ for example Frandsen sent me yesterday a Delta Headguear to put on the models, so it means there is another thing to do besides the above mentioned ones, I have to ask STT for his opinion about it.
I'm in that kind of situation, should I work on them more or delay things to make them even better between my possibilities :-\
What I do want is to send the Delta with the less bugs as possible, for that, we have to test them a lot, we do have a lot of beta testers, but there are things that only us the ones who make them know that may fail, or may need to be changed, for example STT already changed the vest twice to meet his requirements...
I know this guys are taking more than they should, and I know how hard it is to wait for something that we really want to, I know how it feels I started in ofpec asking what where the values in the cpp file ;D it was more than a year from now,at that time Tigershark sent me a complete cpp list to study, that's how I started ;D So I do know what is to have to wait, but as one of the addon makers of the Delta and I think I'm talking for all of them, I prefer you guys to tell us well it took long but hey this guys are absolutely amazing, than to send them earlier, and hear, well they are ok you guys sent them fast, but they have this bug, this should be changed...
I just hope to hear from you guys, what I wrote first, it was a long whait, but hey keep making things like this and take your time, as you guys know quality takes time to achieve. ;)
I will than open a feedback thread to know your opinions (time to put the shields and protect from the arrows) ;D
What ever happens, please let me which you guys in my name and in the name of BAS a Merry Christmas and our deepest thanks for your interest, your help and your dedication to us and to ofpec, it's you guys that make us keep going ;)
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Merry Christmas :cheers:
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bit early there EVIS, ok for you, u got the units :D
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HO HO HO HO :D
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well it's the 24th overthere but here it's still the 23rd of december well since i don't know if i'm gonna be able to read you guys tomorow and christmas day, merry christmas everyone and to bas team,best wishes and keep up the good work ;)
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wat time should i look around for a possible release?
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;) Oh, I know the answer, pick me, pick me!
When they're done!!! ;D
Don't you just HATE hearing that??? :P
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yep, FF i thought i'd hear that, hope santa brings me re-enforcements for my war effort! 8) If you know wat I mean,
US SOCOM, 160 SOAR, by the way i have an online friend who was a crewchief on blackhawks and is stationed in FT. CAMPBELL, SOAR HQ, drop me a line if u wish to meet him. ;D
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@bugkill....you have a point..I think this will become BAS policy.
@others
Xmas deadline was missed...we had final release candidates but I found bugs in all of them (except Deltas which were not even close to release...we are putting all the bells and whistles on these guys)
Merry Xmas...sorry for the wait and the dissapointment
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Disapointment? That your not releasing your completely free professional quality addons at a time we request? Please! ;)
I can wait for years for these babies (ok i can't, RELEASE THEM NOW!)! take as much time, like Skaven said, the more time it takes, the more bug free and amazing they will be! Santa may not have brought the MH-47E fleet to me...but you guys will!! albeit a lil later than crimbo
Merry Christmas everybody at OFPEC
Vyper
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Disapointment? That your not releasing your completely free professional quality addons at a time we request? Please! ;)
Here Here
I've been watching and d/loading your stuff in silence and without any complaints for some time.
Keep the good work up.
Merry Christmas
[edit] can't spell [/edit]
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Any chance of a new year's release? You guys probley have better things to do :)
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This thread really should be the general Ballistic Addon Studio thread.
So I see the new pictures on the site, very nice. Are those custom animations, if so, do you plan on making some for the Littlebirds sometime in the future? (I know, I ask that way too often.)
I figure you could make one animation that can be used both for soldiers sitting with their legs hanging out of the black hawk and for soldiers sitting on the planks of a Littlebird. Or at least they would be very similar and require minor changes between.
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Yes we have the capability to make new animations, we will address the need for new animations as and when, for example the gunner on the MH-60.
So keep an eye out for the next releases ;)
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Can't wait for the MH60, Dead keeps winding me up telling me that it'll be next week.
BASTARD!
;D
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Ok quick question regarding the delta units:
Did you assimilate bibmi's delta units and rangers and such?
Im asking because i havent been able to use this sight for awhile, and the last time i was on (July...ish) bibmi was working on some incredible delta, green beret, and ranger units......
So im just asking if these are those, or if anyone knows what happened to em...
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So im just asking if these are those, or if anyone knows what happened to em...
I know that Bibmi posted that he turned over his Special Ops units to BAS. I do not know whether or not they are being used.
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Ok quick question regarding the delta units:
Did you assimilate bibmi's delta units and rangers and such?
Im asking because i havent been able to use this sight for awhile, and the last time i was on (July...ish) bibmi was working on some incredible delta, green beret, and ranger units......
So im just asking if these are those, or if anyone knows what happened to em...
I think Bibmi had in that period a PC crash lot's of his work was lost he started again and that has caused some delay in his project's but now he is back on work again and every 1 month a addon pack from Bibmi will come now it is a Beta teaser UK SAS but after new year there comes lot's of cool work from Bibmi ;)
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so if u guys are making new cargo animations does that mean u will be able to fit more guys into the MH-60?
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yes we will ;)
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Now that you are working with new cargo animations, would you consider doing new ones for the outside seats on the littlebirds?? something like where the guns are in a ready to fire position or aiming??
PS: I know that this is the Delta team thread but discusion about cargo animations are here.
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sweet!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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:D Hey, ballistic_boys & happy NY. :-*
as 12 pages + the older threads blow my humble top I'll just go ahead & ask:
"MH-53j Pave Low III",
will you believe me if I said that I WANT to create missions w/ this monster ??? 8)
as I said, it might have been asked a 100 times before, but anyho' ... I had'a ask! :-*
who else would be able to create such a badass if not you d00ds!
söuh, would that be asking too much? :D
PS. I don't care if we're talking next summer - it doesn't have top be NOW,
as long as it won't be a "never" :)
greets,
tombster
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Tomb as far as I know scorpio was working on the MH-53 and the CH-53 addons but he is out of BAS team and told that he was contiouning on the 2 choppers now but not under BAS I think single or under another MOD ???
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MH47E coming today or tomorrow? ;D
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@BoneCollector : No, i'm working on it under my own name.
@everybody else asking about it...for the love of God, don't spam the BAS thread for it. Don't be lazy. just read.
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Due to technical problems the MH-47E WILL NOT BE released today, we aim to have it ready for the weekend.
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Cool. 8)
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@BoneCollector : No, i'm working on it under my own name.
@everybody else asking about it...for the love of God, don't spam the BAS thread for it. Don't be lazy. just read.
....12 pages & all those other bas-threads ??? we can't, man!!! ...or at least I can't due to
my conn. (speed) :P ::) I would have to sit around for 3 days to do that & its imposs.
:D why not just say a simple yes or no?! .... or a "dunno" :)
The '53 pave low III is prolly the most difficult bird to create, I know that. But man, it would be worth the effort & it sure would suit the program of the bas team 8) as the '53 is part of the Air Force Spec Ops. insects swarm.
:) I just thought it would be nice to hear if anyone else than me
had the same 'feelings' for this particular chopper. It's a bloody devil. :o 8)
So easy uppie, no reason to get all peed up.
Gettin' a 1000 requests a day is part of being a good modeller/skinner. ;D live with it. ;) ;D
sweet kisses,
Tombs :-*
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BAS will still make the CH-53E with then probably a MH-53J, but not for a while, the main projects coming up are the AH-1W and UH-1N, now that the MH-47E and MH-60L's are pretty much finished near enough the whole team is going on to the marines choppers, the AH-1W and UH-1N will be first and then the CH-46 and CH-53 will come after, although no timeframe has been set out for this....
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I know I said I was Done with this Thread But, I lied :-[, sorry ;D It's good to hear BAS is still gonna do the H53 (some day... take your time, but hurry up ;))
@Tomb I also think the H53 is a Gnarly assed bird :D
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:-* thx for the update, evi. ;) slow-connection d00ds like me really
need a "shortcut" from time 2 time. sorry for being so annoying :P ;D
(send me a big fat check & I'll never do it again! It's a prom. :) ( ::) ) ).
Right, I guess Im all calmed again. And it doesn't matter if it won't get released
before next chrimbozo, as long as there is hope :) ;D
P.S. @punker: "take your time, but hurry up" LMAO ;D
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Hi,
In a texture way, shouldn't we have something to hold the revolver holster on position on the guy's leg ?
Otherwise keep the good job. Is delta desert in the works ?
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- the pictures show the desert deltas - woodland deltas are also being made.
- pictures were taken before leg strap textures were added - sshould be sorted now
thats how i remember it :P
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I have a question about the Deltas...
Here it goes, will they have the Hide Body action, like the Black Ops ingame, I use this to "drag" my fallen comrades to "saftey" when I do delta type missions using the Black Ops guys, I just think it would be cool if you added that. ;D
If we're still talking about Delta, I donno, looks like it's abouth the PaveLow ::) ;)
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bah! ::)
( ;D )
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How is the progress on the delta's and the blackhawks going?
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The deltas look and play amazingly well, and Nagual has some fantastic missions lined up to test them out in (i may be slightly biased, but i get to play with them, so call me what you want :P ), AFAIK the guys are just wrapping up that project but i dont think any release date has been decided upon as there are a couple of additions going in there...
The blackhawks are nearly finished, just waiting on the engine/rotor/cockpit textures which Tigershark himself is working on :)
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Well, that's... wow... GOOOOooOOD news !!
I guess many many people wait for those addons, and so am I.
BTW, 1 thing : Could it be possible to have demo missions of the LB where we can actually fly the LB ?
Does anybody know where I could find various tactics used for SOF deployment using choppers (covert and un-covert insertion/extraction) ?
Thx
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what about the Hide Body action? ???
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there are lots of referance manuals online, as well as some "official" manuals. Just take your time and search for them (in google) and you will get some hits...
btw, "un-covert" is offically called "overt"
And yes the Deltas are equipped with the "Hide Body" action.
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ooooh
*cracks nuckles in front of deadmeat - very scary*
now, so, how long left? ;D
and any more pics? some woodland cammo maybe?
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Hi,
I'm agree with the guy just above me.
The "Hide body" is still the only way to "leave noone behind".
And that's very important as Rangers nor Delta nor SOAR never leave somebody behind ;)
Thx
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hmmmm...
the only person around here to do ANY knuckle cracking will be me...
/me note to self: get a microphone to record knuckles with *
/me cracks knuckles *
as for release dates.... none yet
WAIT AND SEE
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Thanx DeadMeatXM2 ;D
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aaaaw.... no pics for ickle me? :'(
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@Messiah
WAIT AND SEE
;)
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Your gonna make a M249 to go with the Delta Force (or ranger/Navy seals) pack?
And how about M16A2/3/4 with different accessories (Aimpoint, ACOG, M203), also goes for M4A1
And what about woodland camo? Hell even snow camo...
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Why m16's........... rangers don't use m16's anymore they use m4a1's...........somalia was like one of the last places rangers used the m16..
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Your gonna make a M249 to go with the Delta Force (or ranger/Navy seals) pack?
And how about M16A2/3/4 with different accessories (Aimpoint, ACOG, M203), also goes for M4A1
And what about woodland camo? Hell even snow camo...
1: Yes im in the middle of modelling a new one to replace the TOW one seen in screenshots
2: there are a lot of M4A1 versions in the pack, theres aimpoint/reflex/acog sights, and Standard/M203/MK variants theres also desert weapons, and versions with a silencer, so anyone fond of M4 SOPMOD's wont need to go out of their house for a long time :)
3: there is woodland camo already made, Deltas dont wear arctic camo, or at least havent yet, they are CQB/Bodyguard specialists, there isnt a ranger winter camo made, i suppose there wasnt too much demand for it.
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Why m16's........... rangers don't use m16's anymore they use m4a1's...........somalia was like one of the last places rangers used the m16..
the M16a2 is still the "Official" assault Rifle of teh U.S. Army, so the Rangers Probly do still use M16s from time to time. But I think the M16 is on it's way out, I visited Ft. Cambell Ky. a few Weeks ago and the guards all were carrying M4a1 a few even had SOPs but there are a lot of Special Forces there (5th Special Forces Group, 160th SOAR) and the 101st Air Assault Div. but I'm sure the M16 is still used quite a bit, I know the 82nd Uses them.
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(http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/albums/82nd_Airborne_Division/e_8201.jpg)
Im pretty sure the 82nd is using the M4 These days as well
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im not sure it really matters?
the Delta are gonna come with the weapons BAS choose - and then you can use your own loadout...
and as for Delta weapons, ounker does have a valid point - like the SAS the Delta have a personal choice on what weapon they require... it all depends on the situation - hell, i saw a pic a while back of a Delta using a M14, and this was a modern day pic, not modified or anything...
but, yes, the M4 is kinda the prefered weapon i guess... although, u never know. But dont start some flame war on it - like the SAS threads of long ago when people claimed to know what weapon load outs they had - no1 knows, cos they choose what weapons THEY think are best - simple.
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i know that pic that was in the newspaper back here when special forces were saying that the 82nd were treating the afgans rough but i dont think the M16 are used much these days by any of the listed above groups
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As messiah said, you dont know, there is no way of knowing specifically what they are using
Also as messiah said, we will give them what we want, if you dont like it, we will supply you with handy functions to give them any weapon or state of the art water pistol you saw one using, so sit tight, and they will be out soon-ish :)
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This is kinda off topic but then again not. Last few post got me thinking about it any way.
Just saw a news spot today about some US soldiers getting ready to go to middle east. And a thing i notice was that all the M16's had RIS (Rail interface system) Front handguard's. And these where regular troops. Does anyone know if this is new standard??
PS. As said this is kinda off topic but matched a bit with the weapon talk :) :)
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Im pretty sure the 82nd is using the M4 These days as well
Well Yeah, but they do use the M16 as well, I garuntee if you look inside ANY US Army Weapons Depot or Armory you will find M16s but not all US units use M4s many do, I can't give numbers cause I don't know, the M16 is the Official Rifle of the U.S. Army, Navy (including Marines), and Air Force.
@Dkraver, that probly depends on the Unit and Mission.
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@ Dkraver, the M4 with the RIS is the standard issued weapon with regular infantry units, rangers, SF, and LRSD units. The M16A2 is the standard issued weapon of combat service and support units and I don't see that changing anytime soon.
TC
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Isin't the offical rifle of the Navy still the M-14?
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Now its time for a little fact from someone who is in the army :-) almost all airborne divisions have been using nothing but hte m4 now so you know because it is more accurate that the m16... or shall i say was now since the m16a3 is now the standing issue for all us army personel it is just as accurate as the m4 while it has single/burst and auto fire modes :-) anyways oh and hte navy quit using the m14 ages ago......strange.....
-BlackDeath
US Army Soldier
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As messiah said, you dont know, there is no way of knowing specifically what they are using
Also as messiah said, we will give them what we want, if you dont like it, we will supply you with handy functions to give them any weapon or state of the art water pistol you saw one using, so sit tight, and they will be out soon-ish :)
*bows*
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The M4A1 is more accurate than the M16A2? Hmmm...
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It is indeed true, however, that is just based on the shot grouping when fired from a fixed test stand (often a large concrete block with clamp like mounts). In the field its all down to the person pulling the trigger....
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DeadMeat is Dead-On. The M4A1 is more accurate than the M16A2 in shot groupingsproven through the benchmarking of each weapon.
What it actually means is the M4A1 is a more precise weapon, as the shots are consistently repeatable. Accuracy lies in the sights and the shooter.
As mentioned, it's all about the person pulling the trigger once your in the field. An associate of mine came back from Afghanistan and noted that, for examples sake, while the AK is not known for being the most accurate of weapons, it is deadly in the right hands of a trained soldier; he referenced that you'd often find the weapon coming from behind cover with the 'pray and spray' method.
Cheers mates; hope this makes a bit of sense...slightly delerious at the moment :noo:
ofpeditor
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Call me the king of silly requests, but could you include a version of the different variants of sniper rifles with the bipod folded up? It would not have to have an extra soldier armed with it, but it would be nice to manually arm the units with the variant based on the mission maker's preference. I suppose this all has to do on how much it would increase the file size, how much trouble it would be to make, and if any one else actually wants it. If no one else wants it, I will shut up. ;D
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i was hoping for an animated bipod that extends downward into place when in the prone position and it folds back when crouching or standing. if this isnt possible maybe an extend/retract command on the action menu. if this isnt possible no big deal they still look cool...and i still want them...
still waiting patiently...................................
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Are the grenades for the 203 going to take up one slot? Or are you going to use BIS's 203...
Just after using the nam pack im a big fan of GL ammo only taking one slot, makes things easier
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We have our custom grenades, which means that you can carry until 6 grenades if needed. ;)
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I'm sorry Skaven, I didn't understand your meaning... Do you mean your M203 carries six grenades per slot? I hope that's correct as that would be much more accurate in my opinion.
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Yes Ferret...thats what he meant.
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Thanks for the clarification, Mr. T-Shark. That'll be great!
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ooooh, TS, been a while
*jumps up and down like a puppy dawg*
cant wait for this addon.
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I just noticed you removed the CH-53 and MH-53 from the project list on your site, PLEASE say you didnt cancel those :o
As someone will probably point out soon, the CH-53E and MH-53J projects have been put back up, we have someone new to work on them (which if you check the website its not hard to find out who), so you should be seeing some high quality H-53 helos from BAS :)
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Cool but may I ask 1 thing to BAS ???
1-How many people are in the BAS Team ???
2-I think the H-53's will be ready over 6 months :P
I think Bas has 15 people in the team but 1 addon takes 3 months I doubt that you finish all the projects you told.
Remember you said long time ago that you make russian choppers vehicles but if everything takes this long and you wont quit everthing will be ready in the next 4/5 years you told so many projects and 1 project in 2 months and you have 20 projects 20X2=40:12=3 year and 4 months than we are in 2005 ;D
Dont get me wrong but you can finish I think 3/4 projects and than the team will fall apart less interest in OFP.
Well good luck I really looking forward to the addons ;)
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well, yes we have a lot of projects, but the team is split in two (one for soldiers one for vehicles) so we can do maybe 3-4 projects at once and not see any loss in productivity, like at the minute, we have 4 projects pretty much done and just waiting for release, 5 if you count the MH-47E update, (Deltas/Rangers/OH-58D/MH-60), so out of our projects at the minute:
(Youll have to bear with me, this may get confusing)
SPECIAL OPS PROJECT
HH/MH-60G PAVEHAWK
MH-60L/K BLACKHAWK
MH-53J PAVELOW III
DELTA FORCE
U.S. NAVY SEALS
U.S. RANGERS
MARINES PROJECT
AH-1W SUPERCOBRA
UH-1N HUEY
CH-46 SEA KNIGHT
CH-53E SUPER SEA STALLION
US ARMY PROJECT
OH-58D KIOWA WARRIOR
AH-64D APACHE
RAH-66 COMANCHE
Strikeout = Finished/nearly finished projects
Glow = Projects being made by one team member with a small bit of help from other guys
Italic = Projects that are not planned to be worked on any time soon
Bold = Next major projects
So if you look, the major portion of the team only has 3 projects to work on, and the people that work on the men dont really do much on the helicopter side of things and vice versa (for the most part)
AH-1W SUPERCOBRA
UH-1N HUEY
U.S. NAVY SEALS
So if one addon takes 3 months, in 3 months time youll have 5 addons (not to mention the various loadouts/colourschemes), as well as all the addons about to be released in the near future.
I'd say 5 addons every 3 months isnt too bad...
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Wow, looks like you've got things all figured out :)
But it says the Rangers are done, do ya'll have any pics, I just want to see I won't give you any Imput, Promise :-X
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i think those addon makers guys put a lot of time and dedication for us to play and not even seeing their hard work put into user made missions also one thing we tend to forget is that they are human beings and they do have a life
to live and that they find time to work on great quality addons for us to enjoy THEY DESERVE RESPECT FROM US ALL
don't forget that they do it for FREE don't forget that.
So what it takes time to have an addon that's their choice.
If they whant to release a top quality addon you all know that it takes time.
so guys be patient and you will see it will be worth the wait
im sure about it.
sorry if i got a little carried away ;)
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But it says the Rangers are done, do ya'll have any pics, I just want to see I won't give you any Imput, Promise :-X
i think we're keeping them under wraps till the release, they look fantastic though :P
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HOOOAAH! Can you at least give us a pic of the AH-64D :P I cant wait to deploy them to Malden to fight :D
HOOOAAH!
keep up the good work :D
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Due to the problems they create, the team have undertaken a policy of not posting any information or pictures of the addons until the are ready for release. This is because 3-4 pictures and a few lines of text can, and have generated 100's of emails asking:
"when is this ready?"
"where can i download this" and
"why does the link to the download for xxx unit not work?",
as you can appreciate having 100's of emails like this flooding your inbox is not fun, and we do try to reply to all emails, so it does consume a vast amount of time which could be directed to addon making.
so i'm sorry, but no pics of anything for the time being...
And you also have to appreciate that we ARE all human, contrary to common conception, and we do all have lives outside of OFP, and these include Jobs, School/College, Wives/Girlfriends (which take a lot of time).
We also have the problems of location, as there are BAS team members in all 4 corners of the globe, so as you can appreciate that causes some communication problems....
So if you can cut us some slack, we are trying our best, and for nothing other than enjoyment, to get these addons out to you...
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HOOOAAH! Can you at least give us a pic of the AH-64D :P I cant wait to deploy them to Malden to fight :D
HOOOAAH!
keep up the good work :D
er, check again, i forgot to close the code for the OH-58, one wrong out of 13 isnt bad :)
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Just a simple question: Are you releasing all the addons at once, or one at a time (since you have several of them ready :D) Well, just wanted to know that!
Good luck Bas!
Arch.
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i dont think we have a set plan, they arent completely finished yet, but nearly there, i think it will be as soon as they are finished they get released, some may get released together, but i guess that will just be a coincedence :)
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Oh yeah, i have another question. That new blackhawk model, has it been cancelled or is it still in the works? Sure hope so, would be so sweet 8) (But you got to have those black-tinted windows though :-\ )
Arch.
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Its not been cancelled, we still want to do it, but at the minute we dont have the manpower to make a whole new blackhawk, we'll get round to it someday though :)
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Then i have one final question for you (since you are a BAS-member), what about those russian things. I thought you once mentiond choppers and skaven once mentiond troops, so whats the deal about those?
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Thanks for the anwers Evis! Allright, im going to bed now 8)
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again, pretty much the same thing, skaven has some excellent russian troops, but i think hes been too busy lately to finish them, i suppose a russian project is just another idea that didnt make it, im sure we'll be able to do some adversary units in the future though :)
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I can agree with all of the BAS about not Showing any new photos and i withdraw my previous statement :) You guys have done a great Job on both the MH-6 AH-6 and the MH-47E and I didnt mean anything by my statement :) I think your work is beyond the BIS models althought i wish they had made it a little easier to work models in O2. Well I wish you all the luck and Godspeed to getting these awsome models done with. People that have unfairly critized your models really have no legs to stand on :D
HOOOAAAH!
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When are you going to release the finished projects. Can't wait to see them. I would like to see some pics of the Rangers. If they're as good as the Deltas, I'll be as happy as a...... something? Lost for words. Also I'd hate to be a pain in the arse(again), But on the BAS Ranger page, you've made some mistakes on the Somalia op' synopsis. Needless to say your info on the units/vehicles your constructing/ed you've gathered is incredible. It's certianly got more info then some websites that are dedicated to spec ops info. Anyway I know this kinda goes against what you said about no pics but, could you post some of the Rangers? I swaer I won't critizise them. I promise.
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umm.. sorry but the answer is no... the addons will not be long now, so be patient...
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Are you guys going to add some ranger vehicles, some land rovers and some Ranger variant HMMWV's, iv'e seen a HMMWV thats dessigned just for Special ops, i'd like to see that ingame, :) Also, any progress on the MH-60Q?
Dustoff medevac Blackhawk? Tiger told me its being worked on, but u have any info on it? 8)
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Are you guys going to add some ranger vehicles, some land rovers and some Ranger variant HMMWV's, iv'e seen a HMMWV thats dessigned just for Special ops, i'd like to see that ingame, :) Also, any progress on the MH-60Q?
Dustoff medevac Blackhawk? Tiger told me its being worked on, but u have any info on it? 8)
there is a ranger SOV being made, but i dont think its very high priority, we dont have any hummers planned, i think the Lavos Project hummers will be all anyone needs once they are released, and i havent seen any work done on a UH-60Q for about 6 months, and that kinda stalled, i think the MH-60/MH-47's are fine for spec op medivac, or even the MH-6
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Like I said Before Looks Like ya'll got things Pretty much Figured out! ;D
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the ranger SOV, is it the land rover, or the SPECOPS HMMWV variant?
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the ranger SOV, is it the land rover, or the SPECOPS HMMWV variant?
land rover
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Uhmmm.....fricken AWESOME.
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Hey everyone.
I have a question for the BAS guys. Can u use the lasers/infrared devices on the m4's in the delta pack? Just a QUESTION, NO request.
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we have a set up that "simulates" the red laser spot, so it has allready been thought of ;)
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Just thought i would rekindle this thread and ask how the progress on the choppers and deltas are going.
Thanks for any reply
echo
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They are still going nicely thanks...
final work is being completed, and extensive beta testing follows...
no further info.
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when will the delta, ranger and HH-60L be done and released
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"When they're done."
Lol.. no one reads anymore. Read back a few pages.
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heh, which bit of
no further info.
don't you guys get?
They will be done WHEN THEY ARE DONE![/u]
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theres also no such thing as a HH-60L
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*cough (http://www.sikorsky.com/details/1,,CLI1_DIV69_ETI838,00.html)* :-X ::) (lol, a clickable cough)
:) prolly not at the bas labs though.... but thats ok.
Personally, Im just about to become familiar with the mh47E and the lb's 8)
so I can wait a few more months for sure :-*
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;D
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go have a look at bas site ;)
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well, i always knew the medivac as the UH-60Q, must be the new version or something
damn me for trusting Globalscurity.org.... (http://globalsecurity.org/military/systems/aircraft/hh-60g.htm) no listing of the HH-60L in the HH-60 section...
and as i said a few posts back, there has been no work on the medevac blackhawk for ages
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ok, these have been on a few other forums, but here they are now:
Desert Deltas
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/DeltaForce/DesDelta1.jpg)
Desert Rangers
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/rangers_d_3.jpg)
Woodland Ranger
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/rangers_w_1.jpg)
and hell.....a weapon screenie for ya. M4 SOPMOD with Aimpoint M2 Red Dot Scope, AN/PEQ2 Infrared pointer/designator, and Masterkey system
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/weapons_3.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/woodranger.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/rangers_d_2.jpg)
Release in a few days
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DRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL.
They look incredible!! The attention to detail is amazing, can't wait to get them now.
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Thanks mate, the attention to detail was indeed a lot, this boys gave us a lot of work, but I think they will wear the BAS's logo with pride and dignity ;D Now when you get them, just don't start shooting them all over the place ok ;D Try to keep them alive and kill the opponets instead, I tried to make them invincable, but the Team didn't allowed me to do it,oh well... ;D
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awesome these look so good cant wait
im going insane just looking at them u dudes kick ass
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Those weapons and units look awesome. I was wondering how is the SAW going to work? Is it going to be inaccurate and has so much recoil that you canÂ't shoot shit with? Personally i think only Kegetys managed to make one usefull machine gun so far and itÂ's the rpk 47/74. Hope you guys find a good balance to it, west forces really need one good mg.
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A few more screenshots, a lot more can be found on our website. (http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/weapons_1.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/weapons_2.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/rangers_w_3.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/ds3.jpg)
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ahhh more its to much.....wait to much isnt bad
awesome work fellaz cant wait
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One last Pic than ;D
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/rangers_d_1.jpg)
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:wow: I'm lost for words
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Well I think i have your word for you
HOOOOOOOOAAAAAH!
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WOW :o
Boy, I can hardly wait....
Argh!! This is almost torture
So close, but still so far away
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::) no wonder you've been off-line for so long, skav. ;)
guess my sparetime spent on visiting sites like the voyeurweb.com/privateShots will have to be traded for peeps at these hot shots above! 8)
*cooooooooough* :-X ;D
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If the SEALs and Rangers you fellas have planned are even half as good as these Delta boys appear to be, I'm going to wet my pants! Great work guys! Now all we need is someone to make a decent enemy to shoot at, maybe some Iraqis or Somalis, or Taliban of Filipino Guerillas or . . . well, you get the picture :)
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::) Schoeler ::) this guys are the Delta and Rangers ;D
They will be released in one pack only, the TAB says Delta only, but they are Delta and Rangers ;D
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but make separate pbo's from desert and woodland and a weapon pack please 3 pbo in the zip ;)
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We did that BoneCollector ;D
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thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you thank you ;D
Sorry for spam but I am happy ;)
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Awesome!
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im going insane this is the reason people like me go on killing sprees because thier so impatient :gunman: :help:
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OMFG (banging head on the walls
really truely greatly amazing
i think i'll be going to bed dreaming for the next nights waiting for their release like a schoolkid falling in love with the girl sitting next to him in class great work guys very good work and time dedication put to these :cheers:
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Send help, I'm drowning in a pool of my own drool!!! :o
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Certainly the next two weeks are gonna be goowd, 1st these then CnC Generals, btw Some Afghan troops would be good as i was reading the official forum, somehting along the lines off thises guys
(http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystems.com/screenshots/Avatars/vbs1_2025s.jpg)
(http://www.virtualbattlefieldsystems.com/screenshots/Avatars/vbs1_2024s.jpg)
but a tab higher quality
or Update Regular Army units would be good and some russians, but hey its up to you, what ever you create it will be of extreme high quality
8)
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It is bad for us that those taliban units are in VBS1 we will never see those :-\
Hope BIS put some cool new things in IL 8)
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So what's the big deal? I'm quite sure the various mod teams, and independent mod makers could produce some fantastic quality Mujahadeen/Taliban/Al Qaeda/Palestinian/Somali Militia
etc... we don't have to depend on BIS, with mod-teams like BAS providing their time and expertise to produce addons for us.
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Good God, those Afghan units rock! Glad to hear we are getting the Rangers too Skaven. I really hope someone makes decent Iraqis, after all, the Russians are now friends with the U.S., so fighting them is a little unrealistic. Sorry for being a bit offtopic, but: In fact, it looks as of today as if the Russians might be fighting alongside the U.S. in Iraq. Seems that Putin is changing his stance against Saddam.
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Well, I think what's being said is that Russia sees the writing onthe wall, realizes they will want to be involved in the Iraqi rebuilding process, ( BIG MONEY, OIL!!! ) sees that France and Germany are going to be on the outside looking in, and have decided to support our effort.
However, Russia would have a very difficult time getting their forces to the battlefield before we attack next month, unless we start loading them on our C-5's right now.
I'd have to agree, it almost seems strange to play a game that simulates Russians as the badguy...! We have much in common, including being the victims of secular hatred. I call all Russians my brothers and sisters, these days...
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We are all Human, all we need is to Prove it. But Back on topic, is there a release date now, I thought BAS wasn't Releasing Pics of thing untill they were done? ??? Not that I'm Complaneing ;D
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yea i bet vbs1 has some real big realistic maps to
punker i think they are done by the looks of things ;D
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One more pic....as this was the site and forum I founded ;-) this is exclusive to here.
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/ranger/rangers_d_4.JPG)
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Ahhh, saving the best for last. Looks great, Thanx Chief!
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check the first post with the pictures in:
Release in a few days
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they look awesome cant wait
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Looks awesome :o another standard OFP addon among with AKM74's and Kegetys' addons to name a few, I like that you didn't make those desert M4s too yellow.
My vote for next units is some Middle East units (something like in those VBS1 pics) and/or modern Russian infantry pack (similar to this pack), I mean only good Russian soldiers are made by UCE but those are only retextured basic models :-\. It would be nice to simulate the Chechen war; Sigma has already made the tanks, Resistance soldiers and civilians can be used as Chechen rebels/terrorists, Kegetys' Nogojev addons can be used as island, most weapons are already in game, only things missing are proper Russian soldiers. My 2€ cents.
Good work anyway, now just patience 8).
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yummy,
i agree with the above post also on th eunits would be good to see some top quality OpFor
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nothing confirmed at the moment...
we have a lot of other projects to be getting on with...
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Dosent that soldier have too many Ammo purses 720 rounds 12 kilograms in 24 magazins.
STGN
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urrr... no, that is a realistic loadout on his webbing...
we have ensured that these guys are as accurate as possible, and have consulted many experts, and current Army operators on the accuracy of the models
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I think they will be released at weekend, i mean i hope so.
cause they "look" finished, so please don't let us wait
Please, and Peace ;D
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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In reply to STGN;
THose ammo pouches are smaller then you think. they're part of the RACK system and contain 2 mags (Not 4 as the older). A good example of the rack system in a game is the gear on the demo-guys in Ghost Recon. You can see that is almost looks as if he's carring enough ammo to defeat Iraq on it's own, but really that is not true.
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a little late, but here are a few pics of specops in the Philippines (part of enduring freedom) the pics show a varaity of custom loadouts. Maybe BAS can give their seals nice gear(Not that i don't like your delta's, they look great). A few pouches on the back ,for example.
main page:
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/Special_Forces-Philippines?&page=1
nice pics:
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/Special_Forces-Philippines/sf51
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/Special_Forces-Philippines/a_sfp41
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/Special_Forces-Philippines/a_sfp41
To BAS: You may have done this allready (I couldn't see this on the latest SC's), but give your MG-guy's a MG-guy loadout => 2 pouches on the chest, each contain 200 rounds for the SAW (look at Ghost Recon). It is not realistic for a saw gunner to carry a lot of m16 ammo pouches (allthough the saw can be loaded with these).
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1 question will there be in the seals pack not in marines but seals pack a ATV vehicle for use ???
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urrr.... this is the DELTA force thread, nowt to do with SEALS...
and we are not going to disclose any information about the SEALs pack, for the simple reason it creates too much spam...
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This is the RACK
(http://www.special-warfare.net/data_base/306_vest/sds_01/ranger_rack_04.jpg)
And that soldier is carrying 8 ALICE purces whit 3 magazins each and I also saw that he has a LBV 88 on it carrys 6 magazins and 30 magazins is a bit much I think even for a special force soldier and where is the water bottles ??? hopes for his sak that he has a camelback.
STGN
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I kinda like the RACK vest, I would had got one if they made them in Brit' DPM for airsoft. I like it cause it looks like the PLCE chest rig, but can be customised easily for whatever situation you could be in.
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Yes your right STGN. But I'm very well aware what the RACK and ALICE systems are. I took a good look at the textures and I must admit it looks like the alice packs. Also the Webbing on other Screens (on the BAS site) doesn't match the RACK. I'm deeply sorry; I should have taken a better look at them :-\ But we're looking at a ranger (the Delta's made by BAS have black armor and pouches) and he SHOULD be equiped with the RACK. The thing was designed for them( that's why they name it the Ranger Assault Carry Kit), so if BAS say's they're making MODERN Rangers then their loadout is not realistic.
On the LBV 88 : he could be using it as a utility pouch.
I can't see any water bottles, indeed.
water bottles are a good idee when operating in the desert :)
To DeadMeatXM2:
sorry dude, it will not happen again :-[
(but take in consideration, please)
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lol, I was actually aiming that at Bonecollector, but now you mention it, they were seals in those pics, so consider your wrists slapped :P
We have, as stated before, consulted actual Army soldiers about the loadout, and the accuracy of the models.. and they say that they are spot on...
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As far as I am aware the RACK is fully MOLLE compatible meaning it can be tailored to suit the mission needs.
SelectThis
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They Wear Camelbaks for their water, a little Pouch under a Backpack that has a tube going out of it so you can sip frim that. That's standard Issue for the Marine Corps.
But I have a question, are you guys gonna talk to Real Navy SEALs about their gear? or just read some books? there is lots of good Info on SEALs, Rangers, Delta, SAS, Etc etc in some of the books I've read, but then again you probly know that already, so why am I even Bringing this up? ::) there goes another Punk Rock Kid Rambling on ;D
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Yes we will be talking with real Navy SEALs
All the Deltas and Rangers wearb camelbacks.
Please reserve discussions of the webbing and gear till after their release.
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If you look right next to the radio is a cantine.
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I was talking about the picture of the ranger from BAS.
Well well then I wait. but when you are done then I... :gunman: ;D no just kidding.
STGN
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He, that's fine Tigershark :hmm:
And when you're done... :gunman: :beat:
But, I think your models will be so close to perfection you won't recieve any criticism at all. Well... maybe from me, you will ;)
We're still waiting: "I will release details of the individual units in the upcoming days.". I hope you've got something to show us soon
And something I haven't said before: the camo on the custum m4's looks great. It is so easy to do this wrong and create a plastic or stupid looking weapon. But from what I can see on the screenshots, I'd say you did it just right:thumbsup:
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"It is so easy to do this wrong and create a plastic or stupid looking weapon." LOL...
But what if the gun is plastic? Still, the camo textures on the M4 do look fantastic.
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Oh sorry I thought you ment that pic lol.
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Our soon to be released pack seems to have generated a bit of excitement around the community. Thanks for all the comments, praise, feedback and constructive criticism.
The Rangers and Deltas are in the final stages of completion. We have a newly modelled M249 SAW we need to texture (previously using TOW's M249) and we are putting some finishing touches to all the units (authentic Ranger camo face textures that you place on your unit with the "setface" command). They shouldn't be too far away till release. We are aiming for Monday but THIS IS NOT A PROMISE!!!. If we find something that will compromise the quality of the addon we WILL push the release date out.
The Ranger/Delta Mission Dev Kit will contain:
-3 pbos (1 weapons pbo, 1 woodland unit pbo, 1 desert unit pbo)
-Readme File
-Several Missions (by Master mission maker Nagual) for both the Rangers and Deltas (Rangers will have a Woodland Ranger and Desert Ranger Mission
-Code Snippets text file (by Nagual) that will contain class names, and cut&paste code snippets for such things as: populating ammo crates with BAS weapons, making BAS weapons available during your briefing, how to control goggles using script, etc.
-Several screenshots of units in action
The weapons contained in the BAS Weapons pack (which will continue to be updated and refined as new weapons are developed and tested by us) are:
M4 SOPMOD ACOG
M4 SOPMOD ACOG w/ M203 Grenade Launcher
M4 SOPMOD ACOG w/ MasterKey Shotgun
M4 SOPMOD REFLEX w/ MasterKey Shotgun
M4 SOPMOD REFLEX
M4 SOPMOD AIMPOINT
M4 SOPMOD ACOG (Knights Suppressor/Silencer equipped)
M4 SOPMOD ACOG w/ M203 Grenade Launcher (Knights Suppressor/Silencer equipped)
M4 SOPMOD REFLEX (Knights Suppressor/Silencer equipped)
M4 SOPMOD AIMPOINT (Knights Suppressor/Silencer equipped)
Note: Some M4 variants are available as Camouflaged Desert Tan versions for Desert Troops.
M14 AIMPOINT
M24SWS Sniper Rifle
M24SWS Sniper Rifle w/ Night Vision
H&K MP5-SD6 AIMPOINT (Supressed)
M249 Squad Automatic Weapon
US SOCOM (unknown if this will make it for release...maybe a future BAS weapons upgrade)
AT4 Launcher
Satcom (not functional yet!!! Will simply add a comm radio to the soldier)
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sweet alot of weapons for us to play with cant wait ;D
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Also put up an exclusive video for peeps over at opflashpoint.org....should tie people over until next week when they are due for release. Keep an eye out for it.
Nagual did another fine piece of work making this video.
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in reply to Ferret Fangs:
yes, the rifles are partially plastic (that's why the m16A1 was nicknamed the "plastic rifle"), but i war referring to the metal parts. Anyway, you know what I mean.
to Tigershark:
great deal of weapons!! I like the fact that you used different scopes.
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Yes we made 5 different sights and Tiger forgot to mention that we also made a custom ammocrate for fast rearm, or to paradrop ammo to our boys ;D
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BAS (but really kept me till the others where announced) and the Nam pack where what keeps me playing opflash
(o yea and Flashpoint1982)
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the main people making the nam pack are all in BAS :) Ebuds fantastic texture work went into both of them
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i know that D:, im just saying those 3 things keep me playing OFP even if it is maybe once or twice a week.
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LOL, well there are great MOD teams in our community, you should keep DKM MOD team under your eye, they make great addons also the Tales of War Team, the Russians ain't bad, they make some quality stuff, The Taiwan Workshop is really nice too.
Than we have a lot of surprising solo artists like Keygetis,Cpt Moore and many more.
And than ofcourse we have the really promissing MOD teams, like the Falklands, the WW2 Team, MAAC&MURPHY... which have been working for a long time so what ver comes out will have lot of quality, I'm sure it will be worth the waiting.
And also we can't forgetthe great Mission Makers that give life to our addons and new life to the BIS addons also.
I thank you for your nice words, it's really nice to know when our work is apreciated, it's guys like you that also makes us going and struggling to make things the best we can, but in my opinion there a LOT of great Teams and Individuals making addons besides us ;D
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yea and shout outs go to all of them, but someone has to be the best ;) 8)
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I woudn't say someone is the best. Each team or solo addon maker has his own terrain; they make addons very different from each other. Maac&Marfy made the MTLB; A VERY high quality addon. They're also working on some great looking HMMWV's. BAS makes fantastic helicopters and make great ground units (from what I can see on the screenshots, that is). DKM-mod made the Patria and the Comanche; both high quality addons. And these are just a few out of a very large group of talented modelers.
what I want to say, is that the one you name as the best is just the one that makes the addons that YOU like. They ALL do a fantastic job by creating addons that make you keep playing the game.
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I just like all addon makers......thats my 2 cents!
Although i think when this is released i'm gonna want to have a few babies with you guys....hehehe ::)
Vyper
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Babies? I think it would be more like adopted love child.....
jk yeah this will be one hell of an addon
Not too much pressure.....
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(http://www.friserverplads.dk/CrunchyFrog/Hmm.JPG)
HMMM...
Will the M24 with NV scope have a script, so when you press the optics key, the NVG's will be equipped?
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Mmmmmm, gravy cakes.
How goes this release date? any word?
Vyper
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VERY SOON ::) oh well, at least it will be of even Higher quality
(Some what Dissapointed :'()
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So...it's delayed....but as per usual...not because we are sitting around on our asses dreaming about OFP2.....we are working at lifting the release to a new level. It all means MORE for YOU..the gamer.
Well... O'kay :)
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I cant say that i am not dissipointed a little but they are not my models. Sometimes a high degree of patience is required from to get high results. The Sistene Chapel wasnt completed in a day you know ;D I can wait until they relase them and look forward to the day when the 75th Ranger Batt Take to the skys in Operation Flashpoint and soop down on some unsuspecting Abuu Sayyaf :D
HOOOOOAAAH!!!!!
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I been Thinkin' and Maybe it's better that BAS pushes the release date back...
No seriously, TS said they we're gonna wait till the SOCOM Pistol was done, and I think that would be just a bad ass thing to are the troops with! :D
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Will you make a non-silenced SOCOM pistol? I like my pistol to go off with a bang!
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I been Thinkin' and Maybe it's better that BAS pushes the release date back...
No seriously, TS said they we're gonna wait till the SOCOM Pistol was done, and I think that would be just a bad ass thing to are the troops with! :D
you serious?
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As a heart attack
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As a heart attack
has one, :P
np mate With BAS Delays = Increase in quality
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Rangers
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/DeltaForce/rangers_mh603.jpg)
Deltas
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Infantry/DeltaForce/delta_mh63.jpg)
Getting very close boys!!!
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Argh! I always click on BAS screenshots, looking for the link to the big pictures!!! C'mon at least give me a 640x480 >:( :P
Looks badass.
Tigershark - you asked me about poly counts for my weapons - can you share some numbers for these upcoming weapons?
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Sure mate:
These values are faces as shown in O2
-ACOG M4 has 1498 faces in highest LOD, 223 in lowest
- M4 M203 has 1743 high and 233 lowest
One thing I noticed you modelled was the forward assist on the right side of the weapon. I wish we had modelled that...maybe in pack update. Priority is to release at the moment.
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Are you going to make a a MK23 SOCOM without the silencer?
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Great Screen Shots TS I bet even My Photography teacher would be Impressed!
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can't wait they look great
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They just keep gettin better! Nice work BAS...Im trying to determine performance for the Delta guys as Id like to use them on-line...any posibility of getting a face count for the player characters? I saw the weapons face count in an earlier post. Thanks in advance and keep up the great work!
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Are you going to make a a MK23 SOCOM without the silencer?
For you eagle...anything ;-)
Yes..we will be
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SWEET!
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Mmmmmmmmmm EVEN MORE GRAVY CAKES!!!!!
Vyper
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Looks GREAT! :)
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More nice HIGH RES pics on the site
www.concept-5.com/ballistic (http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic)
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And for anyone too lazy to go there, some thumbnails, click the pics to get the full size images:
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Eviscerator/WallpaperDesert1thumb.jpg) (http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Eviscerator/WallpaperDesert1.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Eviscerator/WallpaperDesert2thumb.jpg) (http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Eviscerator/WallpaperDesert2.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Eviscerator/WallpaperWoodlandthumb.jpg) (http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/Eviscerator/WallpaperWoodland.jpg)
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Who has taken this pictures with what videocard ???
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Don't know the Video Card, but Nagual took the pics, Nagual is the guy providing us missions, a great mission maker and from what I can see also a great Photographer ;D
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(http://www.friserverplads.dk/CrunchyFrog/Hmm.JPG)
Hmmmm...
could de-extend the buttstock so it doesnt go through the soldiers arm?
What is most realistic
1) A extended buttstock that almost go through the entire arm
2) A not so extended that doesnt go through the arm so much (maybe alittle, not much)
well?
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I think we can thank the almighty Game enigine for that one :P. But it looks like the Deltas are actually using the Foregrip on the M4SOP, is that just me? or did you guys change something? ;)
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(http://www.friserverplads.dk/CrunchyFrog/Hmm.JPG)
Hmmmm...
could de-extend the buttstock so it doesnt go through the soldiers arm?
What is most realistic
1) A extended buttstock that almost go through the entire arm
2) A not so extended that doesnt go through the arm so much (maybe alittle, not much)
well?
I talked about this with you earlier, the buttstock goes through the arm on the M16 a little and a lot on the AK74, and a lot on the AK47CZ, and even does on the FN FAL, so if people havent complained/been bothered about these weapons, im sure its not much of an issue this time...
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Quick Question... The Goggles on the Rangers, are they gonna be controlable via the Action Menu? and what is the Default position up or down?
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tigershark on the flashpoint 1985 forum
"you can raise and lower the goggles using the action menu "
;)
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I talked about this with you earlier, the buttstock goes through the arm on the M16 a little and a lot on the AK74, and a lot on the AK47CZ, and even does on the FN FAL, so if people havent complained/been bothered about these weapons, im sure its not much of an issue this time...
But, you hardly notice it on BIS models (M16, AK47, AK74), but on yours it goes through the entire arm Evis.
Like we discussed...
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But, you hardly notice it on BIS models (M16, AK47, AK74), but on yours it goes through the entire arm Evis.
Like we discussed...
erm....no it doesnt, only a small part of the bottom of the rear of the stock goes through the arm, about the same amount as the M16
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It's Really Not That Bad, ya'll shouldn't worry so much ;)
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*cough*
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/DeadMeat/Deltathumb.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/DeadMeat/Delta2thumb.jpg)
(http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/images/DeadMeat/Delta3thumb.jpg)
check the site for full size versions
*cough*
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Man some people are way too picky. If there was to be even more detail you would almost be in a real world. there is really nothing they could do to change that for that would take lots more time just to change all the models then go back to be sure that the textures are still okay. I think they are great. I dont mind that little itty bitty stock prob for I have seen it worse. So lets keep off there backs and let them work out of pressure. Keep up the great work BAS!!
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I never even noticed the stock going through the arm before i read the earlier posts. Besides, i'd rather have the hands in good positions than the stock not going through the arm.
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It actually Looks Fine I think, It's kind of a catch 22 if you shoten the stock the Gun isn't a realelistic, if you extend it then it goes through the arm and Doesn't look as good, personaly I'll go for more accurate Guns, I'm not really a Gun Person, but I like real looking guns ;D
@crunchy Frog, don't worry so much, you'll get tiny wrinkles in your forehead and that wouldn't be good ;)
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You know the saying "get that gun in your shoulder",
well it's in there. :D
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No problem with the position of the weapon. ???
No-one shoots exactly the same anyway anyway. My standing position is conventional in appearance, but I know people who push away from their body against a tight sling, people who have the butt near the middle of their chest, and they are national-class shots (I'm not :-\)
There is no right and wrong way because everyone's body is built differently.
Like eagle infers, if you hold the weapon tight into your shoulder the base of the butt dissappears into your clothing.
Message to BAS from a lurker - looking forward to release of these excellant models
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What no new pics?? They are usually posted bye now. OH NO! I'm having severe pic withdrawels. Lol. Well I hope this is a good sign. Cause vixer stated that there wouls be pics everyday till release!!!. Uhoh better calm myself. I may be jumping to conclusions. ::)
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Yeah, Screw the actual Addon, I want screen Shots! Wait... Never mind ;D
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how much longer until they are done and the blackhawk like in blackhawk down
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on the official forums selectthis said that they will not post any screens anymore because they wanted to keep some features as a surprise and he also said that it is in its final stage of completion but couldn't give any release date so i think it's close to completion but i don't think it will be this week though :'(
well i guess that we'll just have to wait and see ;)
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i spotted this at flashpoint.ru some new screens of the deltas and rangers i personally don't read nor speak russian
but the screens speak for themselves really great looking
there's also an interview with tigershark but it's all in russian
so i can't tell you what it's all about but if you have some free time go over and check it out it's worth a look ;)
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I took a look at flashpoint.ru and tryed to translate the message all I could figure out was the title...
Ballistic Addon Studio Interview, the first few words are many people (and then a long line of russian) I only know two or three words of russian.
EDIT: well it won't let me Import the Russian Letters but if I could... I still wouldn't know what the ment ;D
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Thanks viper172,
these pics look great. Have you noticed the delta aiming his rifle from the mh60. Also one guy with a mk23. Are these guy's just sitting in the chopper like you could walk inside the mh46?? Or are they "in cargo" and still able to fire. What I mean; will these guy's fall out when the bird starts to fly or not???
to bas:
(I'm sorry I do this in this topic), but do you have any idea if a script works to have a bird with 2 door gunners (one weapon in cargo, or someting like that) I noticed a patrolboat using this, and other people also claim to have used this on the TOW FAV, with succes. However, I've also heard that using a script to do this would limit the vehicles speed to 15m/h (the FAV). Is there any way you can make it work????(please)
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Thanks viper172,
these pics look great. Have you noticed the delta aiming his rifle from the mh60. Also one guy with a mk23. Are these guy's just sitting in the chopper like you could walk inside the mh46?? Or are they "in cargo" and still able to fire. What I mean; will these guy's fall out when the bird starts to fly or not???
to bas:
(I'm sorry I do this in this topic), but do you have any idea if a script works to have a bird with 2 door gunners (one weapon in cargo, or someting like that) I noticed a patrolboat using this, and other people also claim to have used this on the TOW FAV, with succes. However, I've also heard that using a script to do this would limit the vehicles speed to 15m/h (the FAV). Is there any way you can make it work????(please)
The gents aiming their weapons from inside the helicopter are simply different cargo positions... the CAN NOT fire their weapons, and WILL NOT be able too...
So they will not fall out, and equally they can not fire their weapons... it is simply a game engine limit...
Again with the 2 gunners... it is possible, but only if you run a 900 GHz[/u] mega supa-dupa powerful mainframe sized beast... simply because the script would take sooo much power, the game would simply stop working on a normal computer...
So I am afraid the answer is still NO[/u]...
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This has been asked several times, I know, but since then there have been new animation-editing tools released...
Do you see BAS making new animations for cargo and pilot positions for the choppers in the near future?
The soldiers sitting on the seating planks of the Littlebirds as well as the soldiers sitting on the edge of the Blackhawk (whenever it is released) could use an animation with their rifles held differently and their feet dangling more freely. The gunner in the Littlebird with MP5 could also use a different one.
Although I also understand that animation editing is not all too simple, and you have loads of other stuff to do, just asking.
Good work with the Deltas and Rangers, by the way. These will certainly be one of the "standard" addons almost every player has. ;D
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well its been a week beyond the initial release date and we are still waiting (i cant wait any longer !!!!!!!! i want them i need them i... i..... i..... I LOVE THEM !!! :P :P
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The gents aiming their weapons from inside the helicopter are simply different cargo positions... the CAN NOT fire their weapons, and WILL NOT be able too...
So they will not fall out, and equally they can not fire their weapons... it is simply a game engine limit...
Again with the 2 gunners... it is possible, but only if you run a 900 GHz[/u] mega supa-dupa powerful mainframe sized beast... simply because the script would take sooo much power, the game would simply stop working on a normal computer...
So I am afraid the answer is still NO[/u]...
I think you have confused Cpt. Frostbite with me, I was the one that asked a similar question the other day on the irc channel. :)
cheers
[WTF]onslaught
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no i dont think he did it says that up the page that cptth frostbite posted at
but i cant wait for the realease of all these units i hate waiting this long for sumthing
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Why didn't ya'll at BAS just post the pics on Flashpoint.ru on the BAS site, and said "Ey! here are dem screen shots ya'llz wanned, naw get outta 'ere!" ;) but then again flashpoint.ru couldn't say "flashpoint.ru EXCLUSIVE" could they? :-\ oh well ;D
Kinda off topic, but not really (someone else brought it up!): the MH60, howmany people will fit in one of thoes suckers?
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How long is a ballistic week?
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Shhh! Do you hear that??
I think the natives are getting restless ;D
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This has been asked several times, I know, but since then there have been new animation-editing tools released...
Do you see BAS making new animations for cargo and pilot positions for the choppers in the near future?
The soldiers sitting on the seating planks of the Littlebirds as well as the soldiers sitting on the edge of the Blackhawk (whenever it is released) could use an animation with their rifles held differently and their feet dangling more freely. The gunner in the Littlebird with MP5 could also use a different one.
Allready done my good man ;)
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Could we get you to change the weapon carrying position while in transport to barrel down? Barrel up is technically incorrect. :)
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for real, it has been a long week
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Since the early screens of BAS Rangers i've been wondering what happened to M16 rifles. I was just about to ask about it when i saw M4A1 Basis of Issue Plan at the fas site (http://www.fas.org).
Here's the extract:
C. EMPLOYMENT: THE M4A1 WILL BE USED BY THE SPECIAL FORCES
GROUPS, RANGERS AND SOF AVIATION UNITS.
D. BASIS OF ISSUE: A. THE M4A1 WILL REPLACE THE M4 CARBINE AND
M16A2 RIFLES IN THE RANGER REGIMENT AND SPECIAL FORCES GROUPS.
So i guess there are no plans to release modern M16 vesions?
Fortunately top quality ones are coming along soon elsewhere ;)
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Allready done my good man ;)
;D
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So are we going to be getting the entire "Black Hawk Down Mission makers kit" at once then? ::)
i.e.
MH-60's
A/MH-6's (next version)
Delta
Rangers
Query Query Query away!
Vyper
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Well, when we open the Delta/Rangers FEEDBACK thread, I think I'll lock it imediately after, you guys are really tough customers ain't you ;D
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Not Really, No... ;D We just expect the Best From the Best :-*
(okay, now I'm sucking up)
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:o Ouch :o it may be worth :o
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to 9mm;
check the M16A4's made by earl. Or check the topic "modern us weapons" (also by earl, and about the m16's)
As you've posted, SF will use the m4. So BAS makes m4's, not m16's. The marines will most likely use the M16A4. This will be included with the USMC (MARPAT) addon by Suchey. (Looks great and will be perfect to use with the Huey made by BAS, whenever they release it :))
to Skaven;
Why the F*CK (sorry) do you think they've made this site for????????????? And why the HELL (again; sorry) do you think I'm posting feedback???????
Very much people give great feedback and without a public you could just as well quit making addons (NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO, please don't!!!!). But seriously; feedback will only make your addons better(if possible). And yes, we are a demanding crowd, but that should only encourage you to make the best addons around.
I'm really looking forward to the day you release you delta/ranger pack :gunman: :beat: ;D ;D
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So are we going to be getting a simutanious release?
Vyper
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I guess we'll have a little chalenge between top addonmakers in following days.
What i mean is BAS Ranger/Delta M4s vs. Earl's ForceRecon M4s
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9mm, why does it have to be a competition? I don't appreciate that suggestion. I have no intention of challenging BAS's work. Rangers and Delta Force have weapons appropriate to them, and Suchey's Marines will have their own weapons. Neither project needs to encroach on the other. I hate the fighting that goes on between some modders and I want nothing to do with it. I have great respect for BAS and am eagerly awaiting the upcoming release, whenever it is. As a fellow addonmaker, I know what it's like to underestimate the amount of work left on a project.
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Earl...nice post...and the feeling is mutual.
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I heard about a similar situation regarding a British Forces MOD for Ghost Recon.
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What???
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I didn't mean to offend anyone, and if i did, i'm very sorry for this.
i'm perfectly aware of fightings between modders from almost every community, when people don't respect others dedication and hard work.
But I also know that neither Earl nor BAS team would never lower themselves to perform such actions.
The challenge i was talking about would take place not at any public board but in my own head and computer screen while playing both superb (which i trully believe) addons.
Onece again, I am very sorry for hurting anyone's fellings. Well, English is not my first language and not always i'm able to write (type) down what precisely I meant.
9mm
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This person started a Brit' forces MOD for Ghost Recon, he released some good work. There was also a few rival MODs aswell. But instead of them hoping to join up, it turned into a rivalry. The guy got some threating emails and forum abuse. He gave up eventually, shame. He would've released some great work if he didn't give in.
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That certenaly isn't this case, for two reasons.
1 Earl isn't making the same as us, so that case dies in the root.
2 Both BAS and Earl respect each others deeply, and we are always ready to help each others, for example I've already helped earl one time,and I'm sure he already helped some of us also.
My politic in this situations goes for, we both are trying to make each others game better,so instead of being rivals, I always try to help and learn. Even if for example we both were making the same thing,maybe this time one wil make a better job, next time the other will... so really no chance for having rivals with me.
This is how I see things, and in this particulary case,EARL, certenaly will NEVER be a rival but he would be always a good friend, since I'm a big admirer of his work ;)
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I did say it was a "similar" situation, some facts would be different.
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Sooooo.......*looks nervous* that simultanious release then!?!?!
Vyper
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I woudn't say someone is the best. Each team or solo addon maker has his own terrain; they make addons very different from each other. Maac&Marfy made the MTLB; A VERY high quality addon. They're also working on some great looking HMMWV's. BAS makes fantastic helicopters and make great ground units (from what I can see on the screenshots, that is). DKM-mod made the Patria and the Comanche; both high quality addons. And these are just a few out of a very large group of talented modelers.
what I want to say, is that the one you name as the best is just the one that makes the addons that YOU like. They ALL do a fantastic job by creating addons that make you keep playing the game.
This is what I posted earlier and I think is still true. I like the reply posted by 9mm. When english is not your first language (or mothertongue; is that the right word???) it gets difficult to write things down the way you mean it. I have the same problem so I know what I'm talking about.
End of topic
Vyper; don't hold your breath untill the release (you'll most likely kill yourself :), no offence). What you should do is keep working on your addon(s). A simultanious release would be nice, but what I would like to see are great addons; no matter when they are released. Also please keep working on the UH-1N. I remember that you allready finished the model and some textures. Your Huey, Earl's M16A4's and Suchey's MARINES! (sorry, I just love the marine corps. I'll join the RNLMC (MC in my country) two years from now) would make a great combination.
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Vyper...how do I say this in a way that won't let you down too much?
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No.
;D
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:o awesome new animations for the mh-6 guys looks a hell of alot better then the other ones
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can't wait for the units
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awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guy's just keep amazing me. I guess you'll do the same animations om the MH-60(?). I (and many other people with me) can't wait.
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awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!! You guy's just keep amazing me. I guess you'll do the same animations om the MH-60(?). I (and many other people with me) can't wait.
you'll just have to wait and see... ;)
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yeah, the waiting continues, you better make it worth the waiting(don't reply to this; I know you'll make it worth waiting for)
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Now, when you do release this, will you promise to tell us?
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Now all we need is a tutorial on animation!!(hint..hint) ;D
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its only taking them a little bit longer then planned >:( ;)
but we will still wait with patiance for as long as it will last ;)
the longer it takes the better it looks ;D
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Does anuone think that maybe the MH47's rotor is too loud?
I was playing a mission I had made, where I was supposed to be inserted into enemy territory quietly by MH47. I got dropped off and when the heli left I could still here it going.
I decided to do a little test after that. I placed myself at on end of Nogova, and the heli in flying mode at the other side. I could still hear the thing. Talk about being overt.
Does anyone else think this?
If you guys think it's okay, then I don't want to spoil it for you.
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Does anuone think that maybe the MH47's rotor is too loud?
I was playing a mission I had made, where I was supposed to be inserted into enemy territory quietly by MH47. I got dropped off and when the heli left I could still here it going.
I decided to do a little test after that. I placed myself at on end of Nogova, and the heli in flying mode at the other side. I could still hear the thing. Talk about being overt.
Does anyone else think this?
If you guys think it's okay, then I don't want to spoil it for you.
ahem... have you ever been around chinooks whilst they are flying? Both myself, Damocles and Ofpeditor have experience with these aircraft, and the sound level is about right...
If you want covert use the Littlebird... The MH-47 is too big for covert ops, and is designed for mass troop insertion, equipment delivery, and troop support operations...
For this reason we will not be changing the cpp values for the MH-47E
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chinooks make a fucking racket, even from about 3km away
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I saw on the official forums TS saying the Delta and Ranger pack will be released this weekend woooooooohoooooooo
Ooops sorry TS you said dont tell it to anyone ;D
Which day saturday or sunday please let it be saturday sunday I will go to a wedding of my cousin and I stay there a week long please let it be saturday than I can play with them and go to wedding otherwise my thoughts will be here PLEASE TS please saturday ok ??? :'( :-[
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Excellent news!
One little request though, could you make the mh-47e less cumbersome? It really handels bad , the way it is now, and I know you stated that the e-version is bigger and thus more difficult to control. However, when the AI uses it and i put a transport unload waypoint on a 'H', then the chopper overshoots the dropzone bij several 100 meters and this proces contiues for several minutes. maybe you could use the original mh-47 physics?
Don't get me wrong, i think your addons are excellent and people shouldn't complain about them, but its just that insertion are getting very hard :-\
Well thats it, keep up the good work!
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Ooops sorry for asking a question!
God, you guys are so unreasonable!
I only asked if you guys think that the MH47 was too loud, and I got two of you giving me s**t!
I know there "f**king" loud, but are they too loud?
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Ooops sorry for asking a question!
God, you guys are so unreasonable!
I only asked if you guys think that the MH47 was too loud, and I got two of you giving me s**t!
I know there "f**king" loud, but are they too loud?
Well we could allways stop making addons, then you guys would have nothing to complain about/ask questions about... that way you wont get any "S**t" in return...
As I said, several of the team members have REAL LIFE[/u] experience with the H-47, in one of its many guises, and we feel that the sound level it is set at atm is the most realistic...
And for that reason, we will not be changing it...
@Jahallo: this was one of the first issues that came to light, and has been solved.. so hold on for the next version, and you will get more than you asked for ;)
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I never said that I was unhappy with the addon. I was just asking if anyone else thought it was abit too loud. Also I've found out the range from where I could still hear it, 14.5KM! Ask your mates who've had real life experiance with the heli of how far it was a MH47 goes before you can't hear it.
Your the one that started this, your the one that was saying that I was completely wrong. Okay you try it then, go into OFP right now and have a chinnok hovering at one end of Nogova and you at the opposite end, and tell me if you can hear it!
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Guys as much as I apreciate all conversations, this one is regarding the DELTA and RANGERS, so please don't make me lock my own thread ok ;)
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Ok... first off, calm down mate... I don't want to get into a flame war with you...
I never said you were wrong, I just said we have it set at what we feel to be a realistic level.
Ask your mates who've had real life experiance with the heli of how far it was a MH47 goes before you can't hear it.
I'm one of them... I have flown in RAF Chinook HC. Mk. 3 Helicopters, which are basically the MH-47E fitted with the British (and European) versions of all the sensors and electronics.
And trust me, they are seriously LOUD! 99% of the time you will hear these things coming before you see them, and, with the right wind conditions you can hear them from many many Km's away...
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Okay your right. Eviscerator said that you could hear these things from 3KM away, that's why I said I could hear it from 14KM away. But since you said that they can be heard even further then that, then you've made your point and I'm happy.
I love the look of the new cargo look on the MH6s, great work.
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well, thats from personal experience, i watched one fly by a while ago, but shut the window, i wasnt gonna watch it fly for another 10 or so KM
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@ BoNeCoLLeCToR
I don't think you were talking to the real TS, cause he said that he won't give anymore release dates, but I DO know the Real release date ;)
WHEN IT'S DONE
and till then, we're just gonna have to wait :-\
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@ BoNeCoLLeCToR
I don't think you were talking to the real TS, cause he said that he won't give anymore release dates...
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard301/ikonboard.cgi?s=3e4db1652aa9ffff;act=ST;f=54;t=26543;st=250
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MH47's are very loud.
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Nice to hear that the release won't be long now, even if they don't release this weekend. The waiting is finaly over.....I hope ;)
To all:
please no more on the Chinook. I know it's loud; I have one flying above my house once a month (and I mean flying LOW; I live close to a military airport), so I don't need you to tell me.
To BAS;
Maybe it's time to release some news about your upcomming projects. After that create a topic on this site that's about BAS-birds only. That way we can post all the shit about your birds there. I know you the forums on flashpoint1985 are allready used to post just about anything about all bas project, but I don't vistit that site very often. And you'd please Skaven ;D.
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Everyone, including me, is extremely excited about what BAS has shown us. Yet, think about what they haven't shown us.
It will be a hard wait.
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The Great Thing abour BAS is we have Suprises EVERYDAY! it's like Christmas :D
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Nice to hear that the release won't be long now, even if they don't release this weekend. The waiting is finaly over.....I hope ;)
To all:
please no more on the Chinook. I know it's loud; I have one flying above my house once a month (and I mean flying LOW; I live close to a military airport), so I don't need you to tell me.
To BAS;
Maybe it's time to release some news about your upcomming projects. After that create a topic on this site that's about BAS-birds only. That way we can post all the sh*t about your birds there. I know you the forums on flashpoint1985 are allready used to post just about anything about all bas project, but I don't vistit that site very often. And you'd please Skaven ;D.
We think its not time to release news on the upcoming project, if we do we got much more pressure on us and thats not something we want
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Sorry i'm of topic, but just a small attempt to clear up the chopper noise thing. I work offshore on an oilrig and fly there on choppers every 2 weeks, take my word for it you can hear them coming from a LONG way off, and they are Tigers, so i guess Chinooks would be VERY loud too, also i live in a flightpath for choppers and you can hear them long before you see them with the right conditions as was mentioned....
Oh and i can't wait to see the addons... ;D
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Ok ill post this here too:
Ok, we at BAS have a dilemma, we have a few releases coming up and its time to decide the format, at the minute its about a 50/50 split over zips/exe's so we are asking the people who the addons are for, what do you prefer?
Please vote and give a reason for your vote if you want. I know these types of polls have been done before, but we would like an up to date poll and specifically for BAS addons.
Please vote here:
http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard301/ikonboard.cgi?s=3e4e95bd5beaffff;act=ST;f=54;t=27193
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To Vixer;
We think its not time to release news on the upcoming project, if we do we got much more pressure on us and thats not something we want
I accept (I don't really have a choise, do I). I've read the interview with flashpoint.ru now; and after the Deltas/Rangers are released (which will be soon) you should see a whole lot of projects quickly released after them.
I was actually looking for news like this (and some screenshots to criticize). You guy's just keep working, don't stress yourself and take a 1/2-hour break let's say twice a day. Oh, and don't forget to get some sleep. The last thing I want is to put more pressure on you ;D. I trust you do the right thing and create high quality addons.
To Eviscerator;
Ok ill post this here too:
Thanks! As I said before; I don't visit Flashpoint1985's forums a lot. I'll vote as soon as I've registered :)
To HK;
so i guess Chinooks would be VERY loud too
yep, that's right.
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from deadmeatXM2
regarding the Deltas/Rangers.. not long now.. we are packing it up ready for release as I speak (type)...
so is that great news or what ;)
it's on the official forums
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I can't get to the official Forums :'( But I Don't care ZIP or EXE, just no ACE or RAR ;) or hey! why not Both? :D But That might Be hard :-\ oh well it's your choice ;) I just saw Dilliger 4 they are badass, but I donno what that has to do with OFP Peace out Fellas! ;D
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I just saw Dilliger 4 they are badass,
KUYJFGIUYR!!! LUCKY MAN!!! Im going to see the ataris on wednesday, I dont like them though :-\ Dead Kennedies/Buzzcocks + FAT tour in April, Decon in May, HITS in June. Also loads more ;D. I'll shut up now.
Like I said in another topic, BAS is one of the only reason Im still intersted in Flashpoint. This'll be awesome.
Is there going to be any regular infantry/Marines made in your Army/Marines projects? Sorry if its been asked but I havent got the time right now to look through the whole topic :-\
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Guys, the Delta and Rangers have been released, please report in this thread for feedback ;)
http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=6434
and you can download them here ;)
http://www.concept-5.com/ballistic/default.asp
it hurts me, but I gotta lock my own thread to let the feedback one opened only :-\
ow well... Topic Locked Skaven >:( ;D