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Title: M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 25 Oct 2002, 10:04:59
I have just started to make an M4 SPR.  :gunman:
it is a mix of an M16 and som M4 model I found. but because I can't texture yet I was woundring If its posibel to just ghange the texturs on a model distination, whit out having texture it again I have seen that on the new C7 model they have the C-mag from FilipR M4 pack but did they have to texture it again ???.
And do anybody have som tecknical information about The M4 SPR or do someone know where there there som god pictures of it.
I have only seen this page.
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/album18
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 26 Oct 2002, 06:51:22
ok this is important to me so ill find u sum pics if it takes me all year.... hopefully ill find sum by the end of 2day
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 26 Oct 2002, 13:34:19
well i couldnt find much (man is it hard to find sumthing on 1 gun) but i found 1 that should work its from an action figure but it should be ok

http://www.dragonmodelsltd.com/html/70199%20m4.htm
as for specs its most probably a semi-auto 7.62mm
thats all i know anyone else
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 27 Oct 2002, 04:05:28
ok i found sum more un-military ones but the look pretty good
http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=140323
maybe able find sum more pics and maybe specs if u search long enough
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 28 Oct 2002, 10:51:30
thanks I am sure that this will help me and you will get the firstmodel when Hotmail stops buging me
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 28 Oct 2002, 10:51:51
thanks I am sure that this will help me and you will get the firstmodel when Hotmail stops buging me
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 28 Oct 2002, 11:48:09
excellent...
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 29 Oct 2002, 13:00:31
Hope you got it and that it workes  pleas e-mail me when you are done and say what you mean.

An to all you other guys I stil want Iformation about this weapon if it is just the same as the M4 or the M16 or what.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 30 Oct 2002, 01:57:07
well yea i sent u the e-mail if u need any more screen shots from different angles and stuff just ask....
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 01 Nov 2002, 13:54:08
registered_fugitiv do you have 1.85 patch?
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 01 Nov 2002, 21:58:54
yep....why?
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 04 Nov 2002, 09:00:10
because I sa that you had the Muzzel Flash Bug and i don't think that the gun had that in 1.75.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 04 Nov 2002, 10:15:44
hmmmm i see
well anyway have u made much process on the gun?
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 04 Nov 2002, 12:57:15
Yes I have, new scope so now it has texture, it has more texture every where. it has Bipod and front sight. but the scope dossen't worke at all now. i will send you a copy soon.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 04 Nov 2002, 15:49:06
Hey every one this is a open topic you are well come to add somthing to it, If enybody have some information abouht this weapon or enything then say so it is getting kind a lonely whit only me and registered_fugitiv.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 05 Nov 2002, 07:30:12
well here they are people
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 05 Nov 2002, 07:31:18
and another
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 05 Nov 2002, 07:47:58
anyway this gun still needs a bit of texturing done and theres a few things that need fixing but overall i think it cool and would be awesome to use on an afganistan mission as the special forces are using them over there now. also this would look cool with some camo.

o yea and STGN theres just a few more scope nobs then needed towords the back of it and on the left side ;)
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 05 Nov 2002, 09:35:16
It's beautiful STGN, great work mate. I look forward to using it in game.
BTW: I'm really looking for a USAS-12, a CAWS, and/or the SR-47 SPR, ( Not to be confused with the M-4 SPR that you've made. ) can you assist with any of these models?
I'd be happy to find you any info and pic's of these you might need.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 05 Nov 2002, 12:50:24
I am oprity sure that the scope has four scope nobs
look at this picture
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/album18/m4a1spr
Ferret Fangs you is welcome to suply info of thoes other weapons. Now i am not sure what thoes other weapons look like but I would prefere if they are in the AR15/M16 family. then maby I could make them afterwards.
I know that It would be cool whit a camo version of the gun but in the start it will be in normal gunmetal. because of my lack of texturing skils and that I have only been working whit O2 in 1 month.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 05 Nov 2002, 21:17:39
ahhhhhhhh i see o well my mistake sorry
the SR-47 SPR is pretty much in the M16 family in the ways of looks ferret fangs knows more bout them then me
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 05 Nov 2002, 23:08:19
Well I can't help with the editing (I've got some of my own questions as a matter of fact), but I do wish you luck (I'd like to try it out).

But I DO know a bit about M16 series rifles and AR15s so here Goes:

The M4 is a different beast completely from the SPR.

The M4 is a carbine weapon orginally intended for more special operations and replacement of submachine guns and many handguns.  Now its an issue rifle for many units in the Army.

The SPR (Special Purpose Rifle) is a fairly rare beast.  Its a custom built rifle made by Crane (a Navy Lab in Indiana), orginally made for the SOCOM Seal Units - now used by some of the Army units that make up SOCOM.

Its a 5.56mm rifle.  Uses an 18" long Douglas Stainless Steel Match barrel (standard M16A2's have a 20" barrel , M4s have a 14.5" barrel - add 1" if the flash hider is on).  The SPR uses an Armalite (brand) flattop upper receiver (A4 style) and a carbon fiber free float tube instead of handguards.  The combination of the match barrel and free float tube make for an exceptionall accurate rifle.  The Free Float tube also has rails attached (the one along the top runs all the way to the receiver and helps with the structural integrity).  These rails are used to attached various optics, lights, and bipods.

The rifle is build on M16A1 lower receivers and as such have the semi/full auto capability (no burst).  This was done as the burst mechanism really screws up the trigger pull even when firing in semi.  The trigger group are custom match parts and not 'reworked' military parts.

The rifle is intended as a 'medium' range sniper rifle (or a 'light' sniper rifle) and often use with the 75gr Tap rounds or 77gr SMK Match rounds.  They are also working with 80gr and 100gr rounds (to help improve terminal performance at longer ranges - and help with bucking the wind at longer ranges).

Both the front and rear sight can be flipped down when not in use (on most weapons in the M16/Ar15 series the front sight is always up).  While you can use a variety of scopes - the one Crane has requested purchasing is 2.5x to 8x variable power scope with a mil-dot reticle (think of cross hairs made up of small dots).

There is also a sound suppressor which can be attached to the rifle.

Hope this helps!
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 06 Nov 2002, 01:49:27
OK, I'll start with pic's of the Daewoo USAS-12 combat 12-guage automatic shotgun:
http://www.gunsite.narod.ru/daewoo_usas12.htm
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh16-e.htm
http://www.republika.pl/giwerlandia/STRZELBY%20htm/daewoo.HTM
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/1000/1005.htm

These are the best that I've found online, the information is fairly detailed.
This is a totally badass weapon that would be perfect in the SOCOM inventory, and a must for OFP!
I only request a couple capabilities, to go along with that awesome model...
1. Multi-mode fire... semi auto, full-auto ( 360rnds. per min. )
2. Multiple ammo types... buckshot, flechette, saboted AP slug, HEI slug...?
3. 10 round mags and/or 20 round drum

So tell me what you think?
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 06 Nov 2002, 10:20:36
man those are so cool....
i remember using them in syphon filter 3 i think and SOF2 man those are the best shotguns ever

maybe put 2gether a U.S SOCOM weapons pack although u would need alot more weapons
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 06 Nov 2002, 17:45:09
Rifle looks great - but one nit-pick if I might.  Real SPRs typically use the fixed stock (like the M16A2 & M16A1) not the telestock.  This is a sniper rifle and the fixed stock is much more stabil than the telestocks.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 06 Nov 2002, 18:09:30
Yeah, I thought it was supposed to be a fixed stock as well, might even have an ajustable cheek-piece and or shoulder pad...
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 07 Nov 2002, 00:00:34
Wont have a shoulder pad (heck its only a 5.56) they would use the standard A2 buttstock.  I doubt it would have a cheekpiece.  SInce the rifle is a flattop the scope will mount at the proper height (with a Line-Of-Sight 2.6" over the center of the bore).  A cheek piece would raise your head too high to use the scope.  The only time I've seen cheek pieces used on ARs are when people mount optics on top of the carry handle (which is usually a very bad idea).  Between the optic and the mount the Height over bore get up to 3.5" to 4" and a cheek rest is need to get a good consistant cheek weld.

The only two optics I'll use mounted on top of the charging handle is the Colt scope (a 3x crosshair scope) and the Compact Trijcon scopes  - their mounts are integrated into the optic so it stays close to the proper height.  When using red-dot (non magnified optics) the best place to mount them is over the handguards using a 'gooseneck' mount (that anchors to the carryhandle - but the optic is mounted in front of the carry handle). (BTW if anyone is interested in making a model - I would love to have a OFP model of an M4 with either the M68 (Aimpoint) or Trijicon Reflex mounted in this manner.  I can supply photos)
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 07 Nov 2002, 04:43:09
i dont really care what stock it has its a nice rifle either way...
but if STGN does end up making 1 with the M16 stock i hope he'll have this one when it comes out as well
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 07 Nov 2002, 11:49:44
The riffle is made whit a telestock but is also made whit a normal A2 fixed stock. I mad it whit a telestock because it is better in para drop because of the smaler lenth. I also think it is more cool than the other. But I have a M16 model so It will only take a minute to ad the fixed stock. Maby I will also make the bipod standing so it looks more like a sniper rifel and the one whit telestock can be more assult minded. this is just an idea but I will make this way if that will make som more happy.
By the way I have hust made so Improvments to the model: better forward assist, better load grib and so other improvments and I have added the Peq-5 laser sight form fransens marine pack I have just altered it a littel, looks much better now. somtings made smaler, I don't know if it is goging to be on when I realease cuse I haven't ask him about it. but registered_fugitiv is goging to get a model whit it on.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 07 Nov 2002, 15:53:32
Its gonna be great when you release it.  I for one would like to see the bipod on it.

BTW have you seen photos of the rifle with a telestock on it?  If so could you send me the link?  I've not seen one with a telestock and I'd be very interested in any photo (it would be a very rare varient).
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 07 Nov 2002, 16:25:09
o I diden't knew that but here it is Link
http://www4.aixgaming.com/opend/album18/c_spr01
It is on the same page as the other pictures I have.
and if you wan't to see the bipod then look at the top of the page before this under, registered_fugitiv, well here they are people. or the other picture down under ;D ;D.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 07 Nov 2002, 21:25:35
sounds like its coming along nicely
i like the sound of the laser hopefully he will let u fullly realease it with it  ;D
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 08 Nov 2002, 05:08:00
hey ferret_fangs look wat i found
http://www.opflashpoint.org/addons.php?v=367

its a USAS 12 like u wanted :D
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 09 Nov 2002, 00:55:18
Yeah I found that a couple days ago... It's a great quality addon. The model is fantastic, the textures are accurate, and it works well.
But, I was surprized to find out the author had made an East soldier for it. I suppose "East" and "West" is open for interpretation... But this is a weapon

that would typically be found in Western Forces, in my opinion.
I did modify it a bit... I made it a West weapon, increased the ROF slightly, increased the range and damage of indirect hits, ( Much more realistic now,

this is the most accurate way to model shotguns BTW ) and increased the magnification slightly.
This is a kickass weapon addon. So I'm happy!
And there is now someone interested in making an SR-47 as well. He is a moddler that has been doing a Russian SF weapons pack for Ghost Recon... He posted a

GR model of the SR-47 with an Aimpoint sight, and it looks fantastic! So I'm totally happy about that, as well.
So that leaves the HK CAWS...
Just some background on this monster... This was the absolute best choice for an automatic combat shotgun, that was ever produced. The US military actually

turned it down because it was considered to be "Too Lethal"! I guess they were looking for a NERF-Ball shotgun, or maybe a Super-Soaker watergun for it's

forces...
Anyway, this has been a favorite weapon of mine for more than ten years...
I tried to model one myself which should have been easy, because it looks so much like the the Lost Brothers HK G11, but couldn't get it to work due to

config problems I couldn't resolve.
Anyway, STGN, if you'd like to tackle this, ( Should be an easy job for you, because it has much simpler exterior and textures.
Then here is the info:
http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh18-e.htm
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0700/784.htm
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/0700/783.htm
http://www.gunaction.com/images/shotgun/HK_CAWS_Close-Assault_Weapon_System_Combat_Shotgun_Prototype.jpg
http://karim.liefdeis.com/armory_hkcaws_main.htm
http://www.hkpro.com/CAWS.htm

So give this a look for me 'kay?
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 11 Nov 2002, 13:02:21
NEWSFLASH
MY f***ing computer is down but i think i have found the problem.
And because of that I haven't don enything all weekend "that sh*t computer".
An now to the good news.
Last evening I found out that my dads 133 mhz pentium can run o2 light so maby have to youse that insted and almost everythingt was saved from my compute which have been formated atleast 10 times. registered_fugitiv you will get the newest version of the gun to day now the scope works but I still havent coured the Muzzel flash bug oh an the scope aint set right so it is difecult to hit whit it.
post later
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 11 Nov 2002, 21:35:59
heres some more screens

i think that the laser is a bit small its kinda hard to see
the magnafication needs to be increased but thats easy
and ill post more later i g2g at the moment
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 12 Nov 2002, 00:09:04
Lookin Good!  I like that you put in the PRI folding front sight - nice attention to detail!

Now this will be v1.46 compatible right!?
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 12 Nov 2002, 10:43:39
I hope It will be abbel to be played on v1.46.
And what is the PRI folding front sight. i have made almost all that I could see on the pictures.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 12 Nov 2002, 16:21:10
And what is the PRI folding front sight. i have made almost all that I could see on the pictures.

That little rectangular thing sitting on top of the barrel - just forward of the handguard.  Its made by a company called PRI.  Its the rifles front sight and it can fold down to give the scope a completely unobstructed view (else there would be a small shadow in the lower part of the scope).  The SPRs are the only military AR varient to have this feature.  The iron sights are considered a 'backup', for emergency use only (say if you damaged your scope).
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 13 Nov 2002, 09:00:50
it has that feature look at the ende of the barrel.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 13 Nov 2002, 17:47:10
it has that feature look at the ende of the barrel.

Hence my original comment - nice attention to detail.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 13 Nov 2002, 21:07:20
Oh sory I can't read :-[.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 14 Nov 2002, 08:26:20
well her is a picture of the SPR whit fixed stock.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 14 Nov 2002, 08:29:47
okay now I am getting mad why can't I post a picture >:( >:( >:(
pleas sombody tell me how to do it. :help:
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 15 Nov 2002, 11:23:05
well first off u will probably have 2 make the screenshot smaller, you can do this by what i do and email them 2 urself and it should ask if u want 2 make these pics smaller and u click ok then email them, save them then post them by clickin the box that says browse and find where u saved ur screenshot

and it will come up like so....
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 16 Nov 2002, 12:53:13
that sound difficult if I want to put a piture in a topic. :o
Her is some news, yestody I tryed the gun and now it has no muzzle flash bug in 1.75 I will send you(registered_fugitiv) the gun this weekend or on monday, and who's gun is on that picture I haven't seen that before.
Forest do you want to test if it workes in 1.46?
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 17 Nov 2002, 06:22:18
well the reason u havnt seen it is because its mine and i havnt released it yet ;D
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 17 Nov 2002, 22:52:01
looking forward to you realease it looks very nice.
Is it a M68 aimpoint sight on it.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 18 Nov 2002, 03:29:57
im pretty sure its a m68 or of some simularity
anyway i think ill release it and some more weapons by the end of the month..... its gonna be delta weapons from black hawk down ;D
some weapons ive got so far are:
M14 with aimpoint
M4 suppressed with aimpoint
M4 with aimpoint and taclight
M4 with taclight

and i think u wanted me 2 post this
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 18 Nov 2002, 15:04:13
The M4's is goging to have burst insted of full auto right :toocool:
Do the SPR have Muzzle flash in 1.85 ???
and is there enything I have misset.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 19 Nov 2002, 00:46:24
You bet I'd like to test the OFP 1.46 version!

To be 'true to life' it should have 'full auto' and not 'burst'.  If you want AI's to use it properly - I'd suggest making it a 'semi' only ('ve done that).

BTW I saw that screen shot of the M14 with 'scout' mounted Aimpoint, VERY NICE! On a Historical note: Durring the events of BHD there was no such thing as an M68 CCO (which is an Aimpoint Comp M-XD).  Those used in Somalia were commercial Aimpoint units (an earlier model than the ones eventually selected by the military).
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 19 Nov 2002, 00:58:25
ok ill think about wat ill use when i put it all together propaly

i didnt think it was an m68 because it has different features
ill post some more pics later

stgn your SPR dont have no musle flash ;D but i think teh actual barrel needs to be a bit longer and the bipod sticks through teh hand and as u can see in the pic some textures are missing
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 19 Nov 2002, 01:08:33
I think the barrel looks perfect.  The SPR has an 18" barrel (which is very unusual for AR type rifles).  
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 19 Nov 2002, 02:23:41
yea ok it just looks small when its in first person

well about my guns ive got sum more pics but im having a hard time texturing the taclights on them  :-\
its becoming very annoying

i will be doing them in desert camo also once i get a better texturing program
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 19 Nov 2002, 02:26:30
hmmmmmmmmm
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 19 Nov 2002, 02:28:14
.............
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 19 Nov 2002, 10:45:39
Try modifying the taclight from the MP5, it has texture.
I will make the Bipod standing then, It will be fittet whit the textures from the XMS not the XM as it is now they look much nicer. it will not have shadow at first because I heard that guns whit over 700-800 polys don't have shadow and this gu has over 2000 polys.
Forest you will get the model that registered_fugitiv has tomorow i just need your e-mail if you don't minde, you can give to me as a message.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 19 Nov 2002, 16:46:13
STGN:  You've got mail! <G>.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Eviscerator on 19 Nov 2002, 21:05:53
the gun has more than 2000 polys? jesus thats more than the blackhawk!!!
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 19 Nov 2002, 21:23:09
that is alot of polys u sure?
well ive got my taclights textured ill start my own topic on them later 2day or 2morrow
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 20 Nov 2002, 10:57:05
it is beacause it has a very realistisk MIL-STE 1913 rail interface and somthings have been rounded so it looks better and it has shell deflekter, forward assist and some other thins that makes it more realistik to look ad.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 20 Nov 2002, 14:10:49
oh wheit a secound poly is the same as faces right, caus if thats not true it only haves over 2000 faces.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Marsuitor on 21 Nov 2002, 11:04:20
Aimpoints don't have a red glare when looking into it from behind. They do from the front, but a glare reducer is most often put in place to counter this. ;)
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 21 Nov 2002, 11:14:11
ok im havin big probs with my pc so my weapons wont be out for a while :'(

stupid pc
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 22 Nov 2002, 15:36:20
Thats too bad but the M4A1 SPR will bee out in the next week i hope ;D it now has texture everywhere and you can make head hits whit it on longe ranges. registered_fugitiv when will you be abel to try the new one ???. And Forest dose it workes in 1.46 ???
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 23 Nov 2002, 09:13:57
I'm eagerly awaiting its release.

BTW did you know that Crane labs has come out with a SPR II? (and it seems there is a transitional between the SPR and the SPR 2). I just found out about this week.

They changed the freefloat tube and the Front Sight (its now mounted on the tube instead of on the gas block).

If you interested let me know, and I can point you toward the info & pics.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 23 Nov 2002, 10:09:30
my pc is fixed :D :D :D
Marsuitor do u mean that when u look into the aimpoint from your view u see no red glare but if 1 was 2 be pointing at u u would. or is it the other way round?

Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 23 Nov 2002, 12:11:14
you must tell me about it.
If can make it worke I will come whit my own SOPMOD M4A1 whit a realistic looking KAC rail interface and flattop.
The SPR's Bipod has been foled out and it looks much better now i think. But ofcause this is the first 1.0 and it stil need a bit of worke.
 :)STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 25 Nov 2002, 12:56:14
hey do anybody know what the Scope is. what name and don't forget to tell me about the SPR2.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Marsuitor on 25 Nov 2002, 19:54:03
Registered,
From the shooters view there is no red glare. From the enemies view there would be a reddish glare unless you've put a glare-reducer in place (A little thing you screw in place in front of the sight)

Hope that helps ;)
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 25 Nov 2002, 21:16:59
AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STGN ur scope nobs have disapeared, and i want 2 but i cant post any pics because my screenshot program has stoped working.......

yea that should help but i dunno if i should keep doin this if BAS is doin sorta da same thin wit there delta guys :-\

Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 26 Nov 2002, 10:23:24
are you sure try Print Screen I want to see this.

yea that should help but i dunno if i should keep doin this if BAS is doin sorta da same thin wit there delta guys :-\
Iv don't know If I misunderstud this but it is okay if you don't wnat to test this enymore.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 26 Nov 2002, 11:35:34
the textures made em disapear
ill try find somethin that will work 2 show u

yea u misunderstood me but it dosnt mater i had just woken up and was to tired to kno wat i myself was on bout
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 26 Nov 2002, 18:22:30
Here is the link to the info on the newer versions of the SPR http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=143507 (http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.html?b=3&f=12&t=143507)

Marsuiter is correct about the view through the Aimpoints.  From your side it looks clear - from the business end its a reddish tint (like on the cover of the flashpoint box).

If you want to do a Reflex (from the SOPMOD kit for the M4s) its still a reddish tint from the business end - but a blue tint from the users point of view.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 27 Nov 2002, 11:53:00
i have Fixt that I was over a a frinds hous yestoday playing a littel whit it and now the problem is gorn it was the scope texture I by a mistake had put on the Scope nobs thats why you cant see them.
Maby later to day you will be abel to download it on my new webpage just have to make somthings. I have a lot of homeworke.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 27 Nov 2002, 13:02:59
Her it is http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/
my homepage.
it aint finish just yet and I am working on it.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 28 Nov 2002, 04:21:56
good work man ill have to download this later
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: CrunchyFrog on 28 Nov 2002, 16:59:40
Her it is http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/
my homepage.
it aint finish just yet and I am working on it.
STGN

One thing, dont extend the buttstock... because it will then "Go into" the arm, which looks awful.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 29 Nov 2002, 05:24:14
it dosnt look right with it collapsed its a sniper rifle its spose to be uncolapsed to get a proper shot you cant look down the scope proply with a collapsed stock on 1 of these
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 29 Nov 2002, 11:50:46
The model will have a extended stock but maby on my SOPMOD I will colapes it a littel.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: CrunchyFrog on 29 Nov 2002, 15:25:34
it dosnt look right with it collapsed its a sniper rifle its spose to be uncolapsed to get a proper shot you cant look down the scope proply with a collapsed stock on 1 of these

Which looks most realistic?

This? Or one when the buttstock doesnt go into the arm?

(http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/Sopmod2.jpg)

http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/Sopmod2.jpg

Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 30 Nov 2002, 21:41:41
okay I am gonad shortend it a littel so it will problery just hit the arm. which wil be more realistic cause you would allways press the gun at your arm or els you have dificulties controling it but you are going to wait for 1,0 I have too finde som metal colour texture fore the scope nobs.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: The Edge on 03 Dec 2002, 03:51:35
What's with the flash hider? Doesn't look like the standard bird cage flash hider.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 03 Dec 2002, 10:19:05
If the is the SPR you are refuring too it dosent have a standard m16a2 flash heider if it is the SOPMOD it is because of the texture.
Now the SPR is almost done if just have some .CPP things that son will be fixt.
I am curently working on some coverplate texture fore the SOPMOD.
I am also making M4A1 and a M4 but some how I cant make the M4 work eventhoe it has the same .Cpp as the M4A1 it just have Burst and other names.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: The Edge on 03 Dec 2002, 12:25:10
If the is the SPR you are refuring too it dosent have a standard m16a2 flash heider if it is the SOPMOD it is because of the texture.
Now the SPR is almost done if just have some .CPP things that son will be fixt.
I am curently working on some coverplate texture fore the SOPMOD.
I am also making M4A1 and a M4 but some how I cant make the M4 work eventhoe it has the same .Cpp as the M4A1 it just have Burst and other names.
STGN
Well, the pic that's posted a couple of messages above look like plain jane M4's, correct?

Those actually look like GAU-5/A's: no shell deflector and the upper receiver looks like it's got a fixed carrying handle, only with knobs. :)

The RIS needs to have the vent holes in between the top rail and the rail panels.

The stepping on the barrel also looks a bit weird.

Where's the forward sling pin on the rifle? Should be either on the side or under the front post. :P

Nice work, otherwise.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 03 Dec 2002, 12:42:47
Well, the pic that's posted a couple of messages above look like plain jane M4's, correct?

Those actually look like GAU-5/A's: no shell deflector and the upper receiver looks like it's got a fixed carrying handle, only with knobs. :)

The RIS needs to have the vent holes in between the top rail and the rail panels.

The stepping on the barrel also looks a bit weird.

Where's the forward sling pin on the rifle? Should be either on the side or under the front post. :P

Nice work, otherwise.
I am not sure what you mean by pure jane M4

It has a shell defelctor and what are thos vent holes you are toking abought

it dosent just look like it has a fixt carryhandel and as you will see in my future addons it has a complet flattop you can also see it if you download it and put in o2
by the way there is a link on the past site i thik to my hompage.
maby later i will make a sling pin.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: The Edge on 03 Dec 2002, 14:42:00
STGN,

http://www.lightfighter.com/item.jhtml?PRID=1120045

There's a good pic for you. See the holes? That's for ventilation, to help dissipate the heat produced from the barrel.

Hope this helps.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 03 Dec 2002, 21:45:30
oh them I have thort of them I just don't have eny texture yet.
and i forgot the stepping of the barrel ???
and here is the link
http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 04 Dec 2002, 22:10:09
I just downloaded the SPR for testing.  I'll try it out and get back to you on Friday.

FYI SPR is Special Purpose Rifle, not 'Receiver'.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 04 Dec 2002, 22:27:05
are you sure I have seen both things in replys. :-\
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 05 Dec 2002, 01:19:49
ok STGN u have to have a silenced version of the SPR i was just mucking round with O2 and i just took a silencer off sum model and made it fit right and it looks awesome
please?
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 05 Dec 2002, 11:56:35
When the gun is 1,0 I am gona make a silenced version but I am not sure if it is gona have a tele but or a fix but.
And how is it going whit your BHD M4's.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Wires on 05 Dec 2002, 12:42:21
You could use the door animation and make the but animated like the visors in the Nam Pack 2, that would be sweet being able to extend the stock if you want or not  :)
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 05 Dec 2002, 13:03:36
hmmm my BHD M4s well i decided to scrap em becuase the textures keeped stuffing up and BAS are coming out with an M4 pack which look as if they have the models i was gona have and more, but ive gone on to a different project

and the latest version of the SPR looks good fully textured and all, spent bout half an hour taking 500 meter head shots with it  ;D :gunman:
from wat ive done so far with it i think its ready for 1.0 but ill play around with it a bit more tommorow
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 05 Dec 2002, 14:55:19
The changes that is gona be in 1,0 is some textures that I dident think look so good and the name of the gun is now M4A1SPR but in 1,0 STGNM4A1SPR same whit the magazin.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 05 Dec 2002, 15:10:43
oh and wires how do I do that. that would be funy.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Wires on 06 Dec 2002, 01:17:36
You'd have to ask one of the Nam Pack 2 guys because I'm really not sure how you would do that. With the variety of applications it has been used for I'm sure it wouldn't be too hard to implement in your weapons.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Forest on 06 Dec 2002, 23:27:02
We had a bunch of snow yesterday so I was busy clearing it instead of trying out the SPR.

I'll give it a try later tonight and post my impression later this weekend.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 07 Dec 2002, 01:13:48
then wait to tomorro I am pritty sure that It will be finish tomorro. ;)
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 07 Dec 2002, 23:00:27
well in about 15 minuts you can download 1,0 of my SPR on my site and the SOPMOD will be 8,0.
I now have Made all thes weapons:
M4
M4A1
M4A1 whit M68 aimpoint
M4A1SPR
SOPMODM4A1
SOPMODM4A1 whit M68 ainpoint and PEQ-4 laser pointer
Only the SPR and SOPMOD will be download abel fore now.
The other will come later.
I will send my SPR to some of the big fan sits on monday or tusday.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 08 Dec 2002, 02:55:37
well i tried downloading 1.0 of the SPR and each time it comes up with server failure is any1 else having this problum
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Wires on 08 Dec 2002, 07:13:36
Downloaded fine.

Good work so far STGN just a couple of quips you prob know about. There are no shadows and the lack od tagging makes it a little confusing - gets buried in all the other weapon addons hard to find.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 08 Dec 2002, 11:25:24
yea it does work just had to turn download accelarator off ;D
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 08 Dec 2002, 22:11:08
Downloaded fine.

Good work so far STGN just a couple of quips you prob know about. There are no shadows and the lack od tagging makes it a little confusing - gets buried in all the other weapon addons hard to find.
I know about the shadow it is because of a very high face count.
Lack od tagging sory not english what dose that mean :-[
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Wires on 09 Dec 2002, 01:23:51
Like the OFPEC addon depot requires, a three letter tag eg the ADF Mod uses ADF_addonname you could use STN or STG or whatever to seperate you addons from everyone elses. So they don't conflict with other addons ect
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 09 Dec 2002, 12:33:16
Is it okay to just change the name of the Zip file or is it the Pbo file that has to change or both.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Wires on 09 Dec 2002, 12:45:32
not exactly, you need to do it to almost everything with your addon. take a look at the submission guidlines for the addon depot it explains it all.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 09 Dec 2002, 15:00:55
Well I will try to meet some of those reguierments but i am not sure that it will be ready fore OFPEC at the first.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 13 Dec 2002, 12:40:14
My SPR is now Taged called 1,01. non other changes.
But I am working on a pack whit SPR and SPRsd telebut.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Wires on 18 Dec 2002, 05:24:05
Is this a SPR? I thought someone here would know  ;) as I want to use the right equip for the ADF Mod SASR.
[img removed]AusM4.jpg[/img]
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 18 Dec 2002, 09:18:31
Naa that would be the M4A1 SOPMOD With M203 Grenade launcher and laser dot sight :P
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 18 Dec 2002, 10:53:32
I diden't know that australien tropps used Elcan sights.
and I think if its a aus M4 it is a M4A4 or A3 can't remember.
well some news I have had alot of homeworke and having been doding much but the SPR pack should be finsh soon and my SOPMOD has also been opgraded.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 18 Dec 2002, 12:51:40
hey those new m4s look pretty good
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 18 Dec 2002, 15:45:26
Thanks
I hope to release them soon but I am hoping to find out how to make shadow whitout having to decrease the Face count.
i am working on some texture whit holes fore the RIS on the m4 and that is very hard when you dosen't youse 02 viwer. :)
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 18 Dec 2002, 22:18:00
yea i kno wat its like to not use o2 viewer i cant because my original flashpoint disk broke awhile before i started modeling ::)
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Wires on 19 Dec 2002, 09:10:34
I diden't know that australien tropps used Elcan sights.
and I think if its a aus M4 it is a M4A4 or A3 can't remember.

It's SASR equipment, they pretty much use what they want, seen some wierd configs in photos from Afghanistan. One I saw had a sight like your SPR but looked more like a SOPMOD with laser sight ect, so it's all very confusing  :-\
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 02 Jan 2003, 22:19:40
Well I have posted some pictures of my sopmod which now has vent holes texture.
hoping to soon relase a whight redused version.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 15 Jan 2003, 12:59:07
Hey I am stil working on that pack but I have problems whit the Flash bug :'( do enybody want to help.
I am finishing of my SOPMOD which now have shadow same whit my SPR and I am making a Special Force Soldier whit a LBV-88 on.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Wires on 15 Jan 2003, 13:22:17
What's the prob STGN? flash in shadow or on the model?
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 15 Jan 2003, 14:46:21
On the model of the SPR. and my SOPMOD shows it in first person on the shadow.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 17 Jan 2003, 12:32:34
this flash bug thing is bugging me ;D so i am looking fore someone that would try to fix it fore me. and then tell me how he or she did it.
Hope thats some one wants to
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 18 Jan 2003, 01:26:58
here is a picture of the soldier I am making.
(http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/ranger.jpg)
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 18 Jan 2003, 04:52:45
hey that looks pretty good
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 22 Jan 2003, 16:45:37
Hey registered_fugitiv do you have my SPR 1,01 cause someone have said that it dosent worke would you see if thats true.
and have eny others had trouble whit the SPR 1,01 please.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 23 Jan 2003, 02:05:50
yea i looked at the config and it said  
modelOptics="\M4a1SPR\optika_mildot.p3d";
it will work if u have the older version (M4a1SPR) but thats all it is
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 23 Jan 2003, 11:41:53
well I have fixt it but I am in school :) so would you test it.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 23 Jan 2003, 21:59:38
yep it works fine
 
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 04 Feb 2003, 21:36:19
Well gop to my site there is a new pic of My SPR and a little Info.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: earl_laamanen on 07 Feb 2003, 00:05:47
The size and proportions look great.  I don't know how BIS did their M16 - they seem to have gotten the right overall length, but the receiver is way too big.

Maybe your flash isn't tagged properly with the "zasleh" name.  Does it only show in the shadow, or is the whole thing visible all the time?

Did you inlcude the CfgModels or section?  I forget if that's the exact word, I'll post an extract from my SR47 cfg that was written for me by Skaven and NoRSu (each sent me a config, and helped me modify it).  That's the section that fixes the flash problem.

First check in your shadow LOD if the flash is tagged properly.
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 07 Feb 2003, 04:03:07
i helped with the config but ive tried heaps since iv sent it back to him to get it to work without the muzzle flash but it wont.... kinda weird
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 07 Feb 2003, 12:04:21
Well the picture on the page of My SPR is from vthe addon STGNSPR which has is a very unditail .cpp but It workes fine but I am making a new one(a modified one from Chris33's SA80) that should match the gun better. The one registered_fugitiv made was fore the STGNSPRtb (tele but) which incluede a silent version. while trying to make it working whit out muzzel flash somthing went wrong and know it dosent worke so registered_fugitiv would you send me the .cpp if you have it. and earl. youc dont need the cfgModels because your sr47 dosent have a muzzel flash at least the one I open'et in O2(maby I am rong). The flash is only on the shadow but only at low altitudes(strange world) not on most hills and mountains.
STGN

Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 07 Feb 2003, 23:01:14
yea guess i wasnt thinking strait yesterday
but i sent u that config
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 11 Apr 2003, 16:04:28
Hey sory it is so longtime ago.
The SPR is stil alive but I havent bin doing much whit it. I make Danish soldiers and weapons for LWP MOD right now. and have mostly ben working on my SOPMOD but now I have One week vacation from school and I will make a low poly count version whit much better textures and so should it be in forest camo, dessert/tan or Metal?
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 11 Apr 2003, 16:35:35
good to hear its being worked on again
and i think a jungle/forest camo and desert camo would be nice
BTW i finally figured out the muzzle flash bug on the SPR if u hadnt already
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 12 Apr 2003, 10:04:53
No I havent figured out the muzzel flash on the .cpp I gave to you, I would like it if I could have it.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 18 Apr 2003, 21:49:04
go to my site to see the camo version of the SPR I would like comments about the camo is it good?
Here is the Link:
www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/  (http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/)
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 28 Apr 2003, 12:13:48
I have posted a new pic of the SPR.
Please comment.
http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/SPR2.jpg (http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/SPR2.jpg)
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 29 Apr 2003, 12:18:13
hey looks nice
but have a box where the scope nobs are have a look at scopes such as one on the m24 or have a closer look at the SPR scope to see what i mean
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 29 Apr 2003, 18:07:47
hey looks nice
but have a box where the scope nobs are have a look at scopes such as one on the m24 or have a closer look at the SPR scope to see what i mean
Ofcause I made it  ;D
I am not sure what you mean whit that box thing would you post a picture, where you mark it whit red or another color, or send it to my e-mail.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 30 Apr 2003, 06:33:20
ok heres a pic attached
and a pic of underneath it
http://www.snipersparadise.com/tsmag/july02/SOF%2010.jpg
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Philas on 30 Apr 2003, 16:23:52
I have found this. Hope it will help you:
www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/seal/pdf/weapons.pdf
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 30 Apr 2003, 17:11:27
I have found this. Hope it will help you:
www.sealchallenge.navy.mil/seal/pdf/weapons.pdf
Hope so too I will look at it when I come home.
And I try to make that nob holder.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 01 May 2003, 10:43:03
Hey Philas thank you very much I am very happy now almost all the info I could ever want you are goging in the readme.  :)
STGN ;D
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 01 May 2003, 12:38:14
yea man that thing kicks how the hell u find that
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 05 May 2003, 12:12:12
Well a little update I hav added the nob holder and made a new bipod now the gun is almost in visible(and i cut about 160 polys off).
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 23 May 2003, 10:31:44
you can download beta vesions over at the Beta topic.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 25 May 2003, 00:33:21
a little green aint it  ;D
pretty good hell of a lot better texture job then i could do but camo should really blend in on certin maps
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 25 May 2003, 03:44:01
Accutualy whit the computer I got i disapirest almost on 50m in the grass areras atleast on Nogova.
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 27 Nov 2003, 13:14:50
When I soon(hopfully) have finished my new basic SOPMOD M4A1 model I will update my SPR too 2.00 so now I wanted to ask what would you want to see that wasent in the old pack??
What I will defenetly do is:
1)Update the model
2)Better textures
3)Better cpp
Now i want yours imput
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 30 Nov 2003, 13:34:52
Nobody :(
Well here are some of my thorts
M4SPR whit both Telescopic and Fixed butt
both versions whit silencer
A SF combat version whit no bipod and a ACOG insted of the normal scope
I am not sure if I am gona make the all woodland/dessert camo or just standard black
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Grendel on 04 Dec 2003, 20:29:58
Hey there, nice work so far!

I downloaded your V1.1 SPR and played with it some...

Some Constructive Suggestions:

The model looks pretty good so far, the textures could be a little higher res (they look like OFP 1.0 textures, but you are already working on this I guess) but overall, it looks very nice.  The Bipod could use a little more detail.  

The accuracy needs to be tighter;  I can shoot better groups with a stock M-4 with Iron sights ( In the real world and in OFP).  The rounds also tend to drift way to the right of the crosshair.

The recoil is about right in terms of impulse, but it seems like the timing is kind of off somehow.  

I like the pics of the green camo version, when can I download a copy?

Definitely include versions with both types of stocks and with suppressors.  As far as a "combat SF version"...To be perfectly honest, thats what the M4 SOPMOD is for.  Putting an ACOG on a SPR chassis is like puting a governor on a Ferrari to set it's max speed at 55 mph.

-Grendel
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 05 Dec 2003, 12:54:08
Hey there, nice work so far!

I downloaded your V1.1 SPR and played with it some...

Some Constructive Suggestions:

The model looks pretty good so far, the textures could be a little higher res (they look like OFP 1.0 textures, but you are already working on this I guess) but overall, it looks very nice.  The Bipod could use a little more detail.  

The accuracy needs to be tighter;  I can shoot better groups with a stock M-4 with Iron sights ( In the real world and in OFP).  The rounds also tend to drift way to the right of the crosshair.

The recoil is about right in terms of impulse, but it seems like the timing is kind of off somehow.  

I like the pics of the green camo version, when can I download a copy?

Definitely include versions with both types of stocks and with suppressors.  As far as a "combat SF version"...To be perfectly honest, thats what the M4 SOPMOD is for.  Putting an ACOG on a SPR chassis is like puting a governor on a Ferrari to set it's max speed at 55 mph.

-Grendel

Did you download the beta at my page? cause that the one whit green camo
And i intended the ACOG version for urban operation where you need the accuracy but not the zoom but I don't think I am gona put it in the addon now
thanks for your comment
STGN
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: Grendel on 06 Dec 2003, 21:09:22
Hey again,

Yeah, I downloaded it monday from the Addons page on your website.  Is the link on the home page the one with the new green SPR?

One solution to have an urban capable SPR:  config the magnification on the scope to be variable from a lower minimum magnification than it is now.

BTW I'm really looking forward to adding this to my upcoming MOD if you don't mind.  You will definitely get credit.

-Grendel
Title: Re:M4 SPR
Post by: STGN on 05 Jan 2004, 16:02:26
Hey again,

Yeah, I downloaded it monday from the Addons page on your website.  Is the link on the home page the one with the new green SPR?

One solution to have an urban capable SPR:  config the magnification on the scope to be variable from a lower minimum magnification than it is now.

BTW I'm really looking forward to adding this to my upcoming MOD if you don't mind.  You will definitely get credit.

-Grendel

Here is the link:
http://www.freewebs.com/stgn-addonsworkshop/STGNSPRbeta.zip

If thats not the green SPR then I will have to go digg it up somewhere.

Ofcause you can use it in your mod.
STGN