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Editors Depot - Mission Editing and Scripting => OFP - Editing/Scripting General => Topic started by: macguba on 21 Sep 2005, 12:06:44
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I'm making a mission in which the player starts with the MM1 grenade launcher. The player will have also have a handgun for close protection and for shooting one of his own squad to get a proper gun when the MM1 ammo runs out after about 3 seconds. ;D
He is part of a relatively standard US infantry squad taking part in a relatively standard daylight attack on a Soviet position.
The question is, of the BIS weapons which handgun is
a) most likely in RL to be the one actually carried in this sort of situation?
b) least likely in RL?
c) the one you'd actually prefer to have?
No addons please, this is strictly an addon free mission. For reference, your choices are:-
Revolver
CZ75
Beretta
Tokarev
Glock
GlockS (hint: it isn't this one)
Skorpion
Ingram
And please, no protracted discussion about whether this is truly realistic, or what would actually happen, or what you'd really like to have .... I really don't want to have to lock my own thread for being off topic ..... :P
Many thanks.
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a) Beretta
b) Skorpion
c) Revolver (it appears to be more powerfull to me)
Klavan
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a) In the US military, the Ingram is actually known as the MAC-10, and is used as a PDW (Personal Defense Weapon). This out of all of the choices, this would probably be best choice because the MM-1 is a support weapon, and the soldier fielding it would need a PDW. Also, the M9 Beretta is the standard US sidearm if you choose not to use the MAC-10.
b) Any of the soviet guns would be unrealistic.
c) Hard to say. I personally own a Glock 27C but the M9 and the MAC-10 are all cool weapons (in RL). I would probably say the one with the biggest mag size ;D
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I go with Tyger, the MM1 with Ingram is the best (and the most natural) combination. The revolver is most powerful of course (he drops the loon with one shot no matter where you hit him), but in reality it's a pilot's and officer's sidearm.
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1) The beretta is, AFAIK, the standard sidearm so this will have to be my choice (but I don't think it's intended to be used against your squad mates in a standard situation ;))
2) A sharpened spoon (I have no opinion, actually)
3) The revolver (because it looks cool, sounds cool, and makes me feel like Clint Eastwood)
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2) A sharpened spoon (I have no opinion, actually)
Now which unit's equiped with a sharpened spoon as a standard sidearm?!? ;D
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Smith & Wessonality
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Thanks chaps. I'm going to go with the Ingrams. The Beretta is too crap and the S+W just doesn't fit in with the mood: its all straight infantry work, very open play with long ranges.
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the Ingram comes with the game?
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Yes. Can't remember which patch. Don't think it appears in any units (maybe police?), you have to add it with addweapon commands.
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It came with Resistance I believe, along with the other handguns. ;D
Planck
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It came with Resistance I believe, along with the other handguns. ;D
Planck
Ingram was added in patch 1.85, along with the bicycle and (I think) the green Mini.
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I can't find the green Mini anymore though :'( Guess i'll just have to reinstall the patch :P
And yes, the Ingram came with teh Resistance sniper as a sidearm.
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looks like maccy forgot to hit the "solve" button.... :o ;D ::)
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You know what the Americans are like. They love their guns. I reckon your loon could have any of those weapons. He could probably get hold of them.
Beretta
S&W
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Yes the real problem is that in the game you're constrained to only 1, whereas in real life he would (if allowed) carry 6.
And no I didn't forget to hit the solve button, I always leave my threads open for a day or two in case anybody has anything interesting to add.
Anyway I expect to release the mission on the beta board later today. Don't get excited, its just a bugfixed version of a BIS mission.
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On my Land Nav course for ROTC we each carried a standard M16A3 firing 5.56x45mm rounds, an MP5N 9x19mm Personal Defense Weapon and an M9 9mm sidearm. :D
Yes, we do love our guns ;D
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My two cents (or pennys where i'm from) would edge towards using the Beretta instead of the Mac-10. From my understandings of who in the US military has access to this weapon it seems that only spec ops, VIP protection types and perhaps tank crews. I'm pretty sure the Mac-10 was carried in Vietnam by some green berets due to its rapid fire close range killing potential. I doubt that it would be issued to a regular GI-joe as he won't have the training to use it properly and would end up spraying bullets everywhere and not hitting a thing...
But from a gameplay point of view the Mac-10 would probably play better than the beretta, but not be as realistic. Theres my words of possible wisdom, enjoy ;D
GI-YO
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Um, well, you better be a silent professional if you're using the MM-1 grenade launcher. ::)
I haven't even see a real MM-1 yet, and during training my platoon G-2 pulled a night hitch with some Rangers from Benning - those loons have some wacy stuff. (Ever seen a sawed-off M203? :o) Also, the MAC-10, while semi-rare, is just as easy to aquire as a Mossberg 550. Our forward element teams issue that stuff to their point men all of the time.
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OK time for the solve button I think.
Mission is on the beta board. Ingram won.