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Title: BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 06 Oct 2002, 19:25:55: Hello all!!!! ;D
I have BIG news about the little known command...
SWITCHCAMERA!!!!
I have had a few chats about this subject to some, and
there is excitment in the air. Well start smelling something
new and fresh. Now I remember a topic I was involved in a
while ago. We discussed how to get a camera to view the
inside of an m113. Well NOW I can finally tell you how.
I can get the camera to view all the positions you can
think of!!!
--Cargo position in vehicles and choppers!
--driver positions in vehicles and choppers!
--gunner position in vehicles and choppers!
--commander position in vehicles and choppers!
and the various views of these, as in "internal", "external", "gunner"
not sure about "group" though??
Ok well I think I have your attension in this matter, so
please be patience!! ;D And I will have an example mission
for this.
Stay tuned, in about 12 hours!!!!! ;D
Well I am just doing a bit more testing. ;D ;D
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: LCD on 06 Oct 2002, 20:03:21: nd i dont get ny credits ? ;D

u can also use da switchcamera 2 put sniper scoop in cutscenes ;D

LCD OUT
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: crow on 08 Oct 2002, 07:34:06: Quote from: lilmat on 06 Oct 2002, 19:25:55
so please be patience!! ;D And I will have an example mission
for this. Stay tuned, in about 12 hours!!!!! ;D

Ok you got our attention. We are trying to be patient but it has been about 36 hours. Please hury. This is exceting news.
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 08 Oct 2002, 11:00:34: Ok WELL that's better. ;D
Got some interested people!! EXCELLENT!! ;D
Just to tell you all again. YES I can get the internal view
of " EVERY " vehicle, chopper, unit. Hey how cool would
it be to be able to switch to the internal view of a gunner
in an m1a1 tank, then to be able to look through the scope
of the cannon!!! WELL I can do this as well. SO just doing some more testing and will have more for you soon!
lilmat ;D
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: KTottE on 08 Oct 2002, 11:34:28: Oh man you're tearing me up. I want this, now!

If you need any help, just lemme know okay.
(Anything to get this before everyone else ;))

Really excellent work mate.

Cheers
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: crow on 08 Oct 2002, 14:37:23: Like KTottE if you need any help! This is way 8) I can hardly sit still :toocool: oops sitting on something. If you do need help I would love to help. :thumbsup:
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: LCD on 08 Oct 2002, 17:10:56: sry guys :P im da first dat is goin 2 get it ;) as a (very litle) part of da thing - its may idea (partly) ;D nd im its beta tester :P ;D

LCD OUT
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: crow on 10 Oct 2002, 06:42:44: Dude no need for the anger and greed. We are just very excited. As for the work you have done on this thanks for sharing your talents with the rest of the world. :cheers:
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: LCD on 10 Oct 2002, 08:04:16: saur im sharin - lilmat is writin a tut 4 dat ;D - nd im not angry ;D

da next round is on me

:cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers::cheers:

LCD OUT
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 10 Oct 2002, 12:45:30: Hey Everybody! ;D
Here's a bit of info for you! 8)
The switchcamera command basically switches your view
from being the player, to another unit or even to a vehicle.
So if you use unitname switchcamera "internal" for a unit,
then you will be in the 1st person view of that unit.
Best of all, create a tank(not empty!) name it m1a1 then;
set to combat mode!!
then--
m1a1 switchcamera "internal"
Now you will be viewing from the 1st person view of the
commander of that vehicle(could be driver, gunner or commander!) And what will you see, you will be seeing the
inside of the tank in the commanders view! Now that means
finally you can create camera scipts that will show the inside
of a vehicle. I hope you find this exciting!! I do. ;D
Myself and LCD are at the moment looking, testing, thinking
and all that!! ;D to come up with all we need to do a tut
on this subject. So then all of you can have the info to do
some excitingly different camera cutscenes!
So have fun with the info I have given you, and believe you
me it gets a bit complicated.
Back in a few days to get you updated!! ;D ;D
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: KTottE on 10 Oct 2002, 22:57:13: How do we go about choosing the different places then?

"internal" would be pilot/driver/commander?
How to get gunner and cargo then?

Could it be done if I place an empty M1A1, move three guys in, and do guy1 switchCamera "internal", guy2 switchCamera "internal" and so on. Would that give me the view of the separate soldiers?
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: ProP-JunKie on 11 Oct 2002, 01:55:23: I have a pretty decent music video-esk cutscene going. I tried inputting the switchcamera into it, the best I can get is radio chatter from my helicopters but still no first person view. this is where I put it:
???
_cam1 camsettarget helo2
helo2 SwitchCamera "internal"
_cam1 camcommit 10
~10

still no first person view though. I'm sure I'm doing something wrong... Any ideas? ???
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 11 Oct 2002, 12:09:50: Ok I have the answers and I am happy to tell you! ;D
To KTottE 8)
Ok? There are differences when creating empty and full
vehicles!!
Full vehicles-as in a driver, gunner and commander in vehicle using
vehiclename switchcamera "internal" will switch the view to
the vehicles commander view , then using "gunner", this will
show the (zoomed screen) as if you press "v" on your
keyboard! This screen is only available for tank crews, gunner
on m113, and mgchoppers. But you should know this.
then if you use "external", you will view from the outside
of the vehicle!
SO! :P Empty vehicles!
place one unit in a tank(driver)
use
vehiclename switchcamera "internal", you will see the view
in the drivers position! Now move a unit into the gunners
position, now it will default to the gunners position! Now
move a unit to the commanders position, and it will now
default to the commanders view!
OK you can only get the cargo position view if the vehicle has
no crew in, at the time. The switchcamera will always
default to commanders view of "that" vehicle.
Now you must be wondering, well this is"$#*&" So you think
there are too many limitation!!
DON'T DISPARE
You can get around this by using the player unit!!
That's right, the game seems to give the player unit the
rank of a 5star general.
But remember the most important thing!! switch to the
internal view of that unit before you move that unit into
position!
Hope that helps! 8)
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 11 Oct 2002, 13:08:41: To proP-JunKie 8)
Ok! Have I got any ideas?? ???
You better believe it!! ;D
Well I have been doing just this! Using switchcamera command in cutscenes!!
OK!! I will tell you my secrets! ;D ;D
One thing to remember is switchcamera is similar to useing
the create "camera" both are types of cameras.
And this means you can only use one at a time!!
But thats cool ;D With some clever scripting, black out/black in and creating the _cam more that once, and destroying it
then you can do this!! ;D
Create the _cam as usual. Do all the movements you need,
then before you use the switchcamera command, destroy the
_cam you made, use the switchcamera command, and
then create the _cam again. You need to do this for every
switchcamera position you want!
Hope this helps ;D Any props get ask!!
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 11 Oct 2002, 13:36:05: BTY I'll give you a bit of info on using switchcamera on units
As you know "internal" is 1st preson, "gunner" is optics/scope
"external" is 3rd person and "group" is ??? not sure yet!!
So when you use switchcamera on units then!!
switch to an AI unit, a1 switchcamera "internal"
You are now seeing from this AI unit.
now to get to "gunner" view with an AI you need to have the
AI unit target an enemy! then go to "gunner" mode and
you will see the unit aiming with his gun. And in the same
way you can NOW get to see through the scope of a sniper
rifle. Now I can tell you this looks COOL!!!! :o 8)
And this mode is favorite with LCD, which is helping me with
testing and working out the switchcamera secrets!! ;)
Hope this helps All. ;D
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: vektorboson on 11 Oct 2002, 14:15:17: "group" is the group leader''s view
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: Gameer_77 on 11 Oct 2002, 18:35:27: Vektor, didn't you have something like this that allowed you to see inside and outside units in the spectator dialog? ::)

It was cool! Hope you get the tute out sometime! :P

8)PEACE
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: vektorboson on 11 Oct 2002, 19:05:21: Yes, look here for the debug spectator:

http://www.ofpec.com/editors/snippet_cat.php?id=12 (http://www.ofpec.com/editors/snippet_cat.php?id=12)

There you'll see the switchcamera in action, just use the dropdown menu to switch between different cameras.
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: ProP-JunKie on 12 Oct 2002, 01:52:03: Atten. lilmat!!

:o WOW :o that works GREAT!!! the only prob I have now is that when I go to 1st person view I get all the radio chatter. (Understandable) but when I go back to external cutscene the radios stay on. Like I said... its a music video, and the radio is unwelcome. I know there was a thread on killing the radio but I forget. :-[ Little help please ::)
Switchcamera is tha shiznit
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: Black_Feather on 12 Oct 2002, 04:29:29: EnableRadio false will get rid of the messages
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: Arctic on 12 Oct 2002, 15:43:50: Is it possible to call this up in a script for a cutscene?

In my mission, I want a sniper scope to be shown ,along with some sounds, when this Russian sniper gets within 30 meters of the player and knows about the player.

(All right, I know how to get that conditional statement done) Can switchcamera be used in my script?
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 12 Oct 2002, 17:42:48: No probs Arctic do this, I just worked this out.
Remember switchcamera is also a camera! ;D So you can't
have two running at the same time.
When you are ready to switch to the sniper!, Do this

titlecut ["","BLACK in",1]
_cam cameraeffect ["terminate", "back"]
camdestroy _cam
sniper dotarget russian
~0.1
sniper switchcamera"internal"
~0.1
sniper switchcamera"gunner"
titlecut ["","BLACK in",1]

Now you will be seeing through the scope.
OH yea and make it so there is no player control
And I hvn't done this yet, but I think you can show the
cinema border as well.
Then when you want to go to the cutscene again, the
create the camera again.
And also it seems you lose some AI control, so when you
give orders sometimes you need to be switched to that
unit you will be manipulating!! 8)
Hope this helps!!
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: Sui on 13 Oct 2002, 04:06:35: Quote from: lilmat on 12 Oct 2002, 17:42:48
Remember switchcamera is also a camera! ;D So you can't
have two running at the same time.

Bear in mind that I haven't had a muck around with this yet, but you can have more than one camera running around at the same time.

To change back to whatever camera you want to view through, use the cameraeffect line... eg.

camera cameraeffect ["internal","back"]

And the view on screen will be through that camera. Just note you don't have to change the camera effect, just redefine it ;)
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 13 Oct 2002, 05:40:10: Excellent!! ;D Thank you Sui, now I thought you had to
terminate all cam orders before you use the swichcamera.
Now this is the info we need to know, so we can make a
great tuturial. If you like Sui, I can give you some info so
you can have a look. You certainly have the experience
in these matters. Would you have time to have a look!
Thanks for the info.
8) :o ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 13 Oct 2002, 05:59:04: A big thankyou to all that have put their veiws across.
This is what it's all about, trying to get ALL the relevent
info together!
THANKS EVERYONE!! ;D ;D
So there you go, seems to change a fews things! Now this
is not a bad thing, it just means we can hopefully have all
the info to put in a tut for the community!!
And thats the reason I looked into this. It gives more options
to people making missions.
This switchcamera command is certianly looking at being
the next big thing in editing.
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: Archangel Scream on 14 Oct 2002, 12:00:12: Somewhere amongst all the excitement and chatter, I see a tutorial in formation...

Excellent work, folks :)
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 14 Oct 2002, 15:52:54: Hey! ;D thats right Archangel_Scream. A tuturial is in the
making, and thanks for the nice words! ;D 8)
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 16 Oct 2002, 17:45:33: Hello All 8)
Well this should get you excited!! :o
The testing has gone well and the tut I am writing is nearly
finished. ;) So if all goes well, should be able to post this
to the guys on the site, before the weekend is over!! ;D
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 20 Oct 2002, 19:17:21: Well I have been fairly busy, so I am a few days away
from posting this. Should be middle of the week ;D
So hang in there and I'll get it finished. ;D ;D
Thanks to all that has helped!! 8)
Title: Re:BIG!!! NEWS!!! SWITCHCAMERA!!
Post by: lilmat on 22 Oct 2002, 18:48:24: Ok well the tut is uploaded to the site.
So Thanks to all for their help!!
hope you enjoy the switchcamera command. 8) ;D