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Title: Recording Movies
Post by: supershooter on 25 Mar 2005, 17:50:55: Hi ;D

I am just wondering what different easy ways there are to record movies in OFP (without spending money). I am sure its possible but I don't know where to start looking. Plus I have watched MOD advertisement videos and they look like there done with some kind of tool that is already in OFP. Can some one help me? ???
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: Silencer on 25 Mar 2005, 17:56:44: There is a program called "CamStudio". It is Freeware

http://www.brothersoft.com/Multimedia_Graphics_Screen_Capture_CamStudio_3944.html

This is where you can get it !
Good luck :)
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: supershooter on 25 Mar 2005, 18:01:00: Thanx silencer, anymore tips please.

I would also like something that doesn't lag the game so you don't get a jumpy recording.

Have a look at the VME MOD Videos at the below website (its the 3.36 MB download and not the great huge one). Anyway its recorded as if the player is actually the camera? This looks interesting, any info on this recording method?

www.ofp.info (http://www.ofp.info)
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: Morglor9 on 25 Mar 2005, 18:41:17: Fraps. It doesn't record sound, but it simply films whatever's onscreen. http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?sekce=utilities (http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?sekce=utilities). Get version 1.9D, not 2.0.0.
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: supershooter on 25 Mar 2005, 18:46:32: I have tried Fraps before. It lagged the game like hell so the movie looked rubbish.

Anything else please?
Title: recording movies - need more help
Post by: supershooter on 26 Mar 2005, 11:37:02: Hi ;D

I know I have already posted this topic not long ago but I could do with some more answers please.

I am just wondering what different easy ways there are to record movies in OFP (without spending money). I am sure its possible but I don't know where to start looking. Plus I have watched MOD advertisement videos and they look like there done with some kind of tool that is already in OFP. Can some one help me?

???
Title: Re:recording movies - need more help
Post by: dmakatra on 26 Mar 2005, 11:59:46: You can't start two threads about the same problem. Now the mods will come and beat you up with a large, purple and possibly furry stick.

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:
Title: Re:recording movies - need more help
Post by: supershooter on 26 Mar 2005, 12:51:02: lol - not my prob. theres, no one is gonna answer me cos they're mean. I know hundreds of peeps know what I want to know so I couldn't care less, I just want answers. How am I meant to get answers when my question is on page 150 odd. I have no choice but to ask again!!
Title: Re:recording movies - need more help
Post by: DBR_ONIX on 26 Mar 2005, 13:14:32: I thnk he manes that the answer is already on this forum.. but anyway
The easist way is to buy (You can also d**nl**d it from P2* software.. does censoring that make it okay? :P) FRAPS v2 and use that.
If you have 2 pcs, one with a TV out function on the graphics card, one with a TV card, you can use a cable to connect the TV-out to the TV card, and record on the second PC with something like Adobe Preimer or any other TV card realted software.. I recoomned S-Video cable, as most recent gfx card have this for output, and almost all TV cards have this on the in thing..

That way there is NO perfromance drop, which is very good.. FRAPs is good, but halfs FPS on this computer (While using it to a second harddrive), on the same harddrive it's lower.. This PC is 2.8GHz, 512mb ram, SATA 120GB harddrive (The other is 80GB something or other), GeForce FX5600. I can record with FRAPs v2 with around 15 to 20 FPS (Runs over 15 of that Battlefields misison that comes with OFP Goty, and posisbly others..).
You can guess how horirble it is to use on slower computers.. Games are not playable on 2 to 3 FPS.. :P

if you need anymore help.. ermm.. Hm, post with more info, any problems etc
- Ben
Title: Re:recording movies - need more help
Post by: dmakatra on 26 Mar 2005, 13:35:35: Quote from: supershooter on 26 Mar 2005, 12:51:02
lol - not my prob. theres, no one is gonna answer me cos they're mean. I know hundreds of peeps know what I want to know so I couldn't care less, I just want answers. How am I meant to get answers when my question is on page 150 odd. I have no choice but to ask again!!
You just asked this the other day! What you are saying is that you are much more important than any other on this forum and that your questions should allways go first. Do you really think that's fair? The least you could do is obey the rules right?

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:
Title: Re:recording movies - need more help
Post by: DBR_ONIX on 26 Mar 2005, 14:40:23: ..let's not start, shall we?
I see his point, you won't find a post on page 120 of a thread once it goes onto page 121. but if the question is valid, it will be answered. I normaly read the last 3 pages of long threads..
But asking something that's already been answered pointless..

Anyway, I hope I answered you question.. If so solve the thread
- Ben
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: Grunt249 on 26 Mar 2005, 15:43:43: One method that several people have used while recording lag-free videos is to use a video card that supports a video-out connection, such as S-Video or TV-out. They then connect it to a standard VCR or even another computer for digital recording. This method will allow real-time recording with zero lag. It will also record sound as well.

If you have a video card that supports video in/out, then you can do the same thing. Just need a VCR to record it on, and then later just upload the video back to your computer. If you happen to have 2 computers, you can just send it to PC#2 for digital recording. But option #2 is not as likely, as not many people will have two computers available.
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: supershooter on 26 Mar 2005, 16:05:40: hmmm. great grunt249 I'll try it. sos for being annoying but how are you meant to upload the video onto the computer after the recording.
Title: Re:recording movies - need more help
Post by: supershooter on 26 Mar 2005, 16:11:34: Quote from: dmakatra on 26 Mar 2005, 13:35:35
You just asked this the other day! What you are saying is that you are much more important than any other on this forum and that your questions should allways go first. Do you really think that's fair? The least you could do is obey the rules right?

:beat: *Gets Shot* :beat:

Nope. I am not the more important person here. Just trying to get a bigger range of answers.
Title: Re:recording movies - need more help
Post by: Planck on 26 Mar 2005, 16:14:41: Quote
Nope. I am not the more important person here. Just trying to get a bigger range of answers.

Nevertheless, the rules apply to everyone, one question or problem = 1 topic in the forums.

If the topic is on the wrong board then you can ask a moderator to move it to the correct one.

Planck
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: Grunt249 on 26 Mar 2005, 16:20:46: If you use the method to record the data from one computer to the other, you can use a temporary LAN connection. You will find in your Windows software the ability to hook two computers together with a LAN cable, just plug each end directly into the network cards of each computer. This will allow fast and easy transfer. Another method that is quite old and a bit slower is to transfer the data using Serial cables (RS-232). You should be able to use the data wire that goes between your pc's network card and modem if you use broadband.

Here are some links that might help you out, these are based on Windows XP. If you have a different operating system then post here or look on the Microsoft page of your operating system.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813936 (http://support.microsoft.com/kb/813936)

http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;308582&spid=1173&sid=1247 (http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;308582&spid=1173&sid=1247)
http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;311079&spid=1173&sid=1247 (http://support.microsoft.com/?scid=kb;en-us;311079&spid=1173&sid=1247)
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: Woodpeckersam on 26 Mar 2005, 16:27:21: Download this
http://www.download.com/3000-2166_4-10051706.html

open it up, search for what you want right click and download

it is called P2P, sharing programs over the internet world wide.

ITS FREE ITS FREE ITS FREE ITS FREE
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: Grunt249 on 26 Mar 2005, 18:01:12: Quote from: Woodpeckersam on 26 Mar 2005, 16:27:21
Download this
http://www.download.com/3000-2166_4-10051706.html

open it up, search for what you want right click and download

it is called P2P, sharing programs over the internet world wide.

ITS FREE ITS FREE ITS FREE ITS FREE

I would highly recommend you not use that program, for several reasons.

First, pay attention to the download site's warning:

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Note: This download includes adware that may record your surfing habits, deliver advertisements, collect private information, or modify your system settings. Please pay close attention to the end user license agreement and installation options.

Second, if you use a Peer-to-Peer program, it would not have use in the situation listed above. P2P is just like Kazaa, WinMX, or the many other programs. It connects two or more computers together at the same time so that they can share data. If you have two computers in your same home, there is no need to do this as Windows has built-in file sharing programs that are much easier, faster, and have zero risk of obtaining a virus or spyware/adware.

There is no need to transfer the data from one computer to the internet, just to have to download it again by the other computer. Just transfer it directly from the first pc to the second one, just as described in my other post. This will allow you to record the video on a seperate computer while experiencing no lag in the game. Once the video is finished recording, you just send the file back to the first computer using either a LAN cable or serial data cable. Takes only a couple of minutes to set up, and transfer time just depends on video file size. Normally you can transfer a full 30-minute video file in less than 5 minutes using standard 10/100 network cards.

No offense Woodpeckersam, it's just that your suggestion doesn't apply to this situation. I would also recommend you check out http://www.winmx.com/ (http://www.winmx.com/) for a better P2P program.

Quote
WinMX is a FREE file-sharing program like no other...When you download WinMX, you're getting WinMX and only WinMX, no bundled spyware, no ads, no B.S....WinMX respects your privacy and doesn't contain spyware
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: supershooter on 26 Mar 2005, 18:20:27: don't worry I already use WinMX. BearShare or whatever is useless, hundreds of viruses everyday like kazaa

hmm - how does this cable go in the TV-Out of my comp?? They don't match ??? ???
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: Grunt249 on 26 Mar 2005, 21:44:53: There are two methods that you can use to record video and audio from a game without causing lag on the game computer.

Method #1 requires you to send the a/v signal to a recording device such as a camcorder or VCR. Once the video is done recording, you send it back to the game computer to be encoded into a digital video file, such as Divx, avi, mpg, etc.

Method #2 requires you to send the video signal to a second computer, which records and encodes the video at the same time. Once the video is done, it is already encoded and ready to be either sent back to the first computer or just used from the second computer.

So, which method are you trying? Are you trying to connect your computer video out to the input of a VCR or other recording source? Or are you trying to connect the video out of one computer to the video in of another computer?

If you are trying method #1, you need to make sure that your video card has a tv-out connection, or an S-video out. If not, you will need to purchase or borrow a video card that supports this feature, or use a pc-to-tv converter. You will also need a method to input the video back into your computer afterwards. This means you will also need a video capture device. A few examples are shown below. These are just examples, you can probably find many more choices with varying prices as well.

Video card with TV-out
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1194304&Sku=C261-6068 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1194304&Sku=C261-6068)

PCI Video Capture card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1220932&Sku=D10-1012 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1220932&Sku=D10-1012)

Another PCI Video Capture card
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=448345&Sku=A46-4006 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=448345&Sku=A46-4006)

USB Video Capture device
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=612720&CatId=1428 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=612720&CatId=1428)

Method #2 also requires you to have the same video output and input items above, as well as a second computer available. The main difference is that the second computer will be able to encode the video, and you just use network cards to send the file back to the first pc.

For both methods, you will probably have to purchase or borrow at least one of the mentioned devices. Many of the newer video cards have a video output connection, but I have only seen a few people with a video capture card. Also, there is more chance that someone will have a VCR available but not a second computer, so the first method is the most common. Method #1 does take a little longer, because the video has to be compressed while it's transferred back to the original computer. When using the dual-pc method, the video is compressed while it records. It reduces the time spent, but not by much.

The cheapest method is to use the second PCI card mentioned, or something similar. You can get those kind for around $20-$30, depending on brand and where purchased. The first type of PCI card shown costs a little bit more, but includes the audio input. The second style requires the audio to be input through your sound card. But the first style can cost between $60-$100, again depending on model and place of purchase. The method I have used is with the device below. It's more of an all-in-one, it can accept most a/v sources, both in and out. At the time I bought mine, it cost about $75. You can find similar models for as low as around $65 now. By using the VGA input and output, you don't even need video capture cards while using the two-pc method.

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=683394&Sku=A46-4036 (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=683394&Sku=A46-4036)

If you can let us know which method you would like to use, then I can help you figure out the best way to do it. But without a video capture device (PCI or USB), then I don't think it will be possible for you.
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: supershooter on 26 Mar 2005, 23:37:33: I am doing my best to do method 1, using a VCR hooked up to the computer.
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: Sui on 27 Mar 2005, 01:30:45: /me gets out his tape

Hmmm... this should probably also be in cutscenes and sound, but I'm feeling a bit lazy today ;)

In future, one thread per topic please.
Title: Re:Recording Movies
Post by: supershooter on 27 Mar 2005, 11:12:17: sos Sui. very sorry, I'll be careful in the future.