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OFPEC The Editing Center => Comments & Suggestions => Topic started by: Arrouan on 01 Jul 2003, 01:35:44

Title: Link color
Post by: Arrouan on 01 Jul 2003, 01:35:44
Nice link color but not always as visible as should be :(
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Noon416 on 01 Jul 2003, 01:39:57
Arrouan,

We have many, many links on this site, it would be nice if we could know which one you're talking about. :)

Thanks.
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Arrouan on 01 Jul 2003, 11:25:50
Sorry, I was talking about the red (#CC3300 ?) on beige in http://www.ofpec.com/editors/edit_Style.css
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Noon416 on 01 Jul 2003, 11:33:58
Aah, that coloring. :)

Yeah, it depends on the monitor and contrast/brightness settings as much as anything else.

For me, here at home its fine.
But when I'm at work, with darker monitors it can be a challenge sometimes.

I'll pass on the suggestion to those in control of the palletes, and see what they come back with.

Regards,
Noon416
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: toadlife on 01 Jul 2003, 19:06:45
ARe you talking about this style of link?

(http://toadlife.net/stuff/forum_pics/red_link.jpg)

If not could you send me a screenshot? Or tell me which text you have trouble seeing?
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Tomb on 01 Jul 2003, 19:09:38
I've had the same probs with them brown-sh**y OFPEC colors back in time, and ole NOON is right - it's about setting the contrast & the brightness on yer monitor!  :-*

Make it darker, man  ;)
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: toadlife on 01 Jul 2003, 21:50:07
I still don't know what to make darker. The entire site has allways appeared perfectly for me, on every computer I've ever been on, so I need some specific info on exactly what doesn't appear correctly. :-\

It may be that your monitors aren't displaying certain colors as they should.
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: RED on 01 Jul 2003, 22:25:07
I have never had any of these problems either, I have logged in from several computers.

RED
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Tomb on 02 Jul 2003, 00:13:51
I still don't know what to make darker. The entire site has allways appeared perfectly for me, on every computer I've ever been on, so I need some specific info on exactly what doesn't appear correctly. :-\

It may be that your monitors aren't displaying certain colors as they should.

it happens on many LCD's, yanno - flat screens.  ::)

Try & set yer brightness to near max & boost the contrast, and you'll know about this "bug".
Nothing to do w/ OFPEC though (except from them crappy colors chosen back in time... VIT wasn't it?!)
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: LCD on 02 Jul 2003, 00:16:35
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it happens on many LCD's, yanno - flat screens.

i know im think but not dat much ::) :P

nywayz its all look good 2 me ;D ;)

LCD OUT
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Tomb on 02 Jul 2003, 00:18:28
I didn't say flat HEAD, but flat SCREEN, as in MONITOR!  ::)











( ;D ) moron!
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: LCD on 02 Jul 2003, 00:27:37
* spanks tomb

 ;D

rofl

my head aint dat flat ;) :P it looks like dat  :  ;D

but unlike som of da ppl around here *cough* tomb *cough*i aint fat :P ;D

moron :P

LCD OUT

Title: Re:Link color
Post by: toadlife on 02 Jul 2003, 02:30:13
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it happens on many LCD's, yanno - flat screens.  ::)

Try & set yer brightness to near max & boost the contrast, and you'll know about this "bug".
Nothing to do w/ OFPEC though (except from them crappy colors chosen back in time... VIT wasn't it?!)

I think the people that are having trouble might be sligthly color blind (seriously). Here is a shot of the front page. THis is a link with the mouse cursor over it..

(http://www.toadlife.net/stuff/forum_pics/red_visited_link.jpg)

Am I getting warmer guys?

I rather like VIT's color scheme. :)
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Tomb on 02 Jul 2003, 09:40:32
 ;D lol, yea maybe we're just colorblind (not).

You know, on LCDs the colors & brightness change if you move your head?!
This happens especially with older LCD's but also the newer ones have a limited FOV.
Maybe ppl are sitting misplaced, with their head in the wrong height (too hight ?)... dunno
that might explain why some ppl have this "over-brightness" experience?!

anyway, in my case  ::) the whole net began to appear when I balanced my LCD.  ;D
The default settings were bad and it never occured to me that I'd have to set it myself (it was my first comp. back then) to be able to see all colors on the various sites on the net, and in PC games etc.

must be a Q about bad/good monitors rather than colorblindness, me think, cause
colorblind people swap colors - they don't overlook colors (as far as I know).
They just take green for red & red for green etc. which is not the same as not seeing this & that color.

I'm for bad monitors / misbalanced brightness, or whatever its called  :)


Title: Re:Link color
Post by: KTottE on 02 Jul 2003, 10:04:03
There are different kinds of colour blindness.

There's the most common one:
Red/Green, people confuse the two, blend them both into brown or a
combination.
(Variations on this can include any two colours and give the same effect)

Then we have the full-spectrum one:
People confuse all kinds of colours with eachother and they blend to form other colours.

Black n White:
People can't see colours at all (VERY rare, but it does exist) everything is like 1940's movies for these people.

If someone overlooks a colour it's because he or she has problems seeing that colour + whatever colour is adjacent to that in this case it would be a purple-ish and a light brown-ish colour.

But the funky angle on the LCD sounds more like the problem to me.
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Garcia on 02 Jul 2003, 15:08:01
hmm...gotta be sooo boooring with only black and white :o :-\

Garcia :P
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Arrouan on 02 Jul 2003, 15:34:06
There is nothing wrong with my monitor (plain old CRT screen, was set up with one of those "increase the contrast when the red square bla-blah" - tools).
The link color is just difficult to read when a link consists of a small word like "this" or "staff" ...
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Tomb on 02 Jul 2003, 23:13:22
lol @ kTootsie for that bunch of info.  :o ;D U never know where ofpec can take ya. ;D

 :D ok, Arrouan, so we took it away & started to talk about the borders while you just meant
those highlited words/names - fair enough, I can't see them either which is probably why I hardly ever use 'em.  :-X ::) colorblind or not.  :)


ah well, tomb sealed.

Title: Re:Link color
Post by: toadlife on 03 Jul 2003, 00:03:01
There are different kinds of colour blindness.

There's the most common one:
Red/Green, people confuse the two, blend them both into brown or a
combination.
(Variations on this can include any two colours and give the same effect)

Which is why I think color blindness would make the link I posted of picture of earlier very hard to see. I used to have a  roommate who was color blind and couldn't tell the difference between red and brown. Now look at that picture I posted - Dark reddish-brown text over a brown bar.  :o

Since multiple people are experiencing the same problem with LCD screens, I would have to agree that that is most likely the problem.  If I ever have time, I can try and tweak the style sheet a bit to make sure there is more contrast between text and their backgrouds.
 :-*
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Planck on 03 Jul 2003, 01:53:28
Hmmmm...........I don't really understand what the problem is here.

The link is perfectly readable if you remove the mouse pointer from it, it then becomes white text on brown.


Planck
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Tomb on 03 Jul 2003, 03:52:10
...color blindness would make the link I posted of picture of earlier very hard to see.

The prob. with this site's interface, the color scheme (in general), is that everybody knows
that not everybody have perfectly balanced screens/monitors back home! And thus when making a site - you'd be one mean (or ignorant?) webdesigner if you chose to mix/use colors which are closely related. Links are meant to be highlighted AND clicked on, and thus its pretty stupid to "hide" a link by painting it in the same color as its background!  ::)

And on a bad monitor, redbrown lightbrown and brown and darkred are more or less the same.

It's simply plain basic amateur-webdesigner knowledge that you DON'T choose similar colors but choose contrary colors (is it called that?) when you set up links, borders and background/foreground stuff.
The ofpec color scheme is relaxed & laid back and all that, with its brownish poo-poo colors, but it is NOT a user friendly interface (as a brownish whole).

Some of the various depots colors are better, not neccesarily prettier but more userfriendly.  :)

Title: Re:Link color
Post by: toadlife on 03 Jul 2003, 09:44:54
Ok. I fixed the newspost link hover color. Any more areas of the front page or ed depot that have unfriednly color schemes? ;D
Title: Re:Link color
Post by: Tomb on 03 Jul 2003, 21:55:14


    :D howsabout getting rid of this:

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The OFPEC server will be taken down from Saturday the 5:th of July, 20:00 GMT
to Monday the 7:th of July , 08:00 GMT for mainentance work.


                 ;D :'( ;D :'( ;D



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