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Addons & Mods Depot => OFP - Addons & Mods Beta Testing => Topic started by: Soldier8Boy on 24 Aug 2002, 06:47:23

Title: WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Soldier8Boy on 24 Aug 2002, 06:47:23
I'd just like to point out that very few of them could fire single shots, but instead would fire a short burst even with the slightest pull of the trigger.

Could this be fixed, please?
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: KTottE on 24 Aug 2002, 09:39:07
Yes, well the single-shot option could be removed from the config.cpp. At least, I think it could.
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Soldier8Boy on 24 Aug 2002, 10:04:38
It could quite easily, but I'm just hoping they will. Their goal is historical accuracy, well then single shot on SMGs has to go. The MP-44 and carbines aren't SMGs, I'll point out. Mp44 was the first assault rifle.
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: KTottE on 24 Aug 2002, 10:35:37
Sturmgehwer actually, not assault rifle =)
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Spliff air on 24 Aug 2002, 13:52:49
actuly the mp44 was the worlds first assult gun hense sturmgewehr  :gunman:
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Lobster on 24 Aug 2002, 15:51:02
originaly we had single burst and auto fires which is obviously wrong, So we changed them to all auto only, but then somone from this very forum told us the Mp-44 and Thompson had Single shot modes as well.

Make up your minds people.

¬ Lobster
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Spliff air on 24 Aug 2002, 15:56:38
Thompson had single burst and auto same with mp44 i know what i am saying i got this info from a top quality book showing schematics and where is your grease gun for the us tank crews  ;D
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Blitz on 24 Aug 2002, 17:30:55
Show me a link saying that the mp44 and M1A1 tompson had burst functions.Everywhere i have looked (mulitiple sites) they have had single and fullauto.
If you can then ill be darned. ;)
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Spliff air on 24 Aug 2002, 17:34:45
Its actully a book but i will scan an image for u guys
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Spliff air on 24 Aug 2002, 17:50:28
Okay i would like to say i can admite defeat but the mp44 could fire single rounds and here is a link to a website i think it had all weapons used axis and us  :-[
 
        http://www.flashthunder.com/atw/weapons.php

Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Soldier8Boy on 24 Aug 2002, 18:33:01
They had burst and auto, because one squeze of the trigger fired a burst not a single shot.
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Blitz on 24 Aug 2002, 18:49:10
So its not actually a burst funtion is it.
Its just what happens when the trigger is squeezed.
Im sure if you presed it quick enough it would fire one shot
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Blitz on 24 Aug 2002, 18:51:01
And in that site it doent mean literally fire in a burst mode but insted fire in full auto for 10 or so rounds at a time.
You can fire bursts right now in our addons if you want to.
So we got it right first time.
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: danbryant4 on 24 Aug 2002, 20:40:16
Does anyone actually own these guns? B/c I've so many sites that contradict each other.

Daniel J Bryant
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Frosty on 25 Aug 2002, 04:03:07
Well, the answer to the Mp44 and StG44 is that:
The first prototype was called the MP43. Then when plans were finished in 44 and production started it became the SturmGewehr 44.

I hope I was right or y'all will flame the hell outta me.
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: elgrabbula on 25 Aug 2002, 06:48:56
i own a thompson 1928model and collect vintage firearms, the thompson has a selector on the left side of the gun behind the trigger, safe, semi, auto
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: elgrabbula on 25 Aug 2002, 06:52:31
Does anyone actually own these guns? B/c I've so many sites that contradict each other.

Daniel J Bryant
I do, I collect vintage firearms from the 20's to 50's ; 8)
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Spliff air on 25 Aug 2002, 23:28:41
i think he mean the us army version 1944 model
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: elgrabbula on 27 Aug 2002, 01:07:45
they used a 1941 model, the only diff in it took out the blish lock and gave it a horizontal foregrip and no drum mag capability ;D
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: CrunchyFrog on 27 Aug 2002, 15:35:03
MP40 - FA
MP44 - SA & FA
M1A1 - SA & FA

Theres no "burst" function... just set it on FA and tap the trigger...
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Thorne on 27 Aug 2002, 22:00:51
Where the hell you need the burst function anyway? The gun doesn't use up the whole magazine with one quick squeeze
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Wires on 29 Aug 2002, 12:26:11
Thorne is exactly right, and think about it - you can fire single shots whith just about all the weapons made for OFP even on full auto just by clickin' the mouse fast enough, it's not hard. I really don't see the point of a burst mode except to achieve a higher fire rate without possible damage by constant use at such a rate. eg AN-94 has a 2 shot burst that fires almost double the rate of the auto setting. I think this would be why the R/L Thomson only had semi and auto - squeze the trigger for a second and what do you get? A BURST  :o
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: CrunchyFrog on 29 Aug 2002, 18:00:16
actually thats 3 times...

the 2-round burst has a ROF of 1800, and the FA ROF is 600
so...

1800/600 = 3

 ;)

AN-94 = 1337 h4x0r 4554UL7 R1FL3
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: FatJoe on 01 Sep 2002, 16:58:08
I just want to point out to you guys that its not good to use the word "burst" except when talking about actual burst mode for example the 'three round Burst'

I can take an M60 Machine gun.. and just squease the trigger for little less then a second to get a burst.. but thats not burst mode.. thats Fully automatic.. becaus if you hold down the trigger you keep fireing..

A burst mode is when you can hold down the trigger for well over 5 seconds but still only shooting 3 rounds the whole time..

Using Fully Automatic for Fully Automatic, Single Shot or Semi auto for Single shot or Semi Auto and Burst for # round burst mode is less confusing :)

Yes the Thompson is Semi Auto and Fully Auto.. and we'll be doing the M1928 version too.. the tommy gun..  :) and yes it will have a drum magazine as an special magazine :D

Cheers
Joe
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: KTottE on 01 Sep 2002, 19:08:49
Hmm, in my opinion, a burst is a burst. You can fire a burst of rounds. Or you can fire # rounds in burst fire mode.

If everyone just remembers to put that extra "mode" in burst fire mode everyone would understand ;D
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: Ranger93 on 04 Jan 2003, 11:12:26
Is the Tommy you're talking about Resistance version,if yes. Where can I download the gun.
Title: Re:WW2 Submachine Guns
Post by: knepo on 04 Jan 2003, 13:10:50
check this out ;)

http://www.iwm.org.uk/collections/exhibits/ex-corner.htm

thats some funny stuff. :)