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Addons & Mods Depot => OFP - Addons & Mods Beta Testing => Topic started by: Rob_SAS on 08 Jul 2003, 23:03:09
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I think a good idea 4 a addon is to create all the different sections within the SAS eg air, mobility, boat etc. Would this b possible. plz reply asap
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Project UK Forces will be doing SAS troops at some point in DPM and desert, not sure about troop-specific kit like freefall gear, wetsuits etc. though.
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http://www.geocities.com/ofpwhodareswins/index.html
We are doing the SAS(thats what the mods based on) there was more info but we seemed to have takin it down
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cool cant wait until there ready 4 downloadin
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the boat service of the SAS isn't the SAS at all....
its the SBS (Special Boat Service)
Vyper
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actually no the boat troop is a troop in the SAS
http://sasrogues.bravepages.com/boat.html
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The SBS is the Royal Navy's special forces unit, and are tasked with counter-terrorist operations at sea (oil rigs, ships etc.), as well as being an excellent "regular" special forces unit. The SAS has a boat troop in every squadron, which specialises in marine stuff.
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Well that i didn't know, learn something new everyday huh!
Just incase, if anybody wants to make SBS of the Falklands war era my uncle was in it and also is an avid gamer...so i'm sure he'd be happy to help.
Vyper
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ur uncle was in the SBS cool i know sum people connected (were) connected with SF but not actually any1 who was in it i dont think i have got a champagne bottle from the officers mess in hereford which has got the winged dager etc on it . Iam off in the army in sept. Defo goin four selection when i am iam ready probs around the age of 23. How long until the sas addons will b ready?
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Well its hard to say we are in desperate need for a texture artist so untill we have one or i learn how to make better textures we will not be releasing them so unless we get one sorry mate
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dont b sorry if it wasnt 4 u lot with the know how we would never get any of the cool stuf this site offers
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Project UK forces' SAS will include more than just dpm and desert versions......there will be a variety of different units encompassing a number of roles.....and there will be SBS units as well...texturing and modelling is complete and at the mo' they are being coded...
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SBS and SAS took part in the BARRAS operation in siera leone at rokkel creek.... SAS were tasked with hostage rescue, and the SBS swam up the creek and suprised the west side boys from the water :D
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Just incase, if anybody wants to make SBS of the Falklands war
Jeez i wonder who could be making them.......
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Yeah. Me too.
Erm....
Go on then KevBaz. Tell us who's making them then ;)
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No idea m8 ;)
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Drat. I'll never find out now :-[
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Heh
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;D
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The Malvinas Mod released some SAS and SBS with their latest demo.
Here's a link to their page:
http://malvinas.cazadoresdemonte.com.ar/novedades-ing.htm
Unfortunately they're currently added to East. The config.cpp's are left uncoded, so it's possible to edit this.
I'm editing the configs for my own use, but if anyone would like a copy when I'm finnished, then send me an e-mail.
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I'm steering clear of the Malvinas Mod, from what I've seen they've got very poor quality stuff in the works. I'm waiting for the Falklands Mod instead, I've got a feeling that it'll be the best mod out when it's finished.
Now come on KevBaz, stump up my fees ;)
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heh its in the post ;)
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we need a decent SAS addon, someone that looks like an SAS soldier, not some skinner bugger in a balaclave. and not someone with the SA80. Someone who looks the part, has the chest rig, the M4, Minimi, or L9A2(if your a brit), a shamagh, and the pack. coz so far, every single SAS addon I've seen is shoddy as, except for the one Spider made me long long ag :D
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well.... just wait and see what we at Project UK Forces have in the works for the SAS and SBS...
and as for weapon - SAS will equip themselves with whatever they deem appropiate to the situation - i severly doubt they would touch the SA80 - from TV reprts on afghanistan they used AK74's to fit in with their northern alliance counterparts and in Kuwait they used M16's with M203's.... and we've all seen the iranian embassy where they stormed with MP5's
what Bibmi has planned is very very very exciting
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Indeed and I've got the SAS Pink Panthers on my to do list.
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oooh yeah.... good point ;)
vade is working on the main SAS units and Bibmi is working on special sections of the SAS ;) - just to clarify
and there is always the new improved Paras and Marines and RRF that are looking better with every beta :D
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oooh yeah.... good point ;)
vade is working on the main SAS units and Bibmi is working on special sections of the SAS ;) - just to clarify
and there is always the new improved Paras and Marines and RRF that are looking better with every beta :D
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Pink Panthers! Yay!
Are we going to get desert ones in the pink scheme too?
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huh?
thats what pink panthers are.... desert landies for the SAS painted pick because the MoD decided that was the best desert colour scheme... and hence nicknamed the pink panthers...
if you mean will there be several camo version of the armed landies (wolf) then yes, there will be... although its up to Lilty what they are...
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The Series I & II Pink Panthers were only pink because the sand in Oman where they were used had a pink tinge to it, where as the sand in Iraq is yellow so they were painted yellow, besides there were green pinkies too!
As for camo schemes I'm looking at doing green, green/black, desert and maybe Cyprus (sand/green)
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history lesson 1 complete :D
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Lol, I'm starting to get the feeling I know too much about military Land Rovers! ::)
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And I trust there will be assorted goodies such as mounted machineguns, automatic grenade launchers and such on these babies :)
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You'll have to wait and see!
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:P ;D
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kotty... even i dont have the new versions with whatever goodies may be on them ;) - and im trying to make the mission for them ::)
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I prepared a reply about how a Pinkie doesn't neccesarily have to be pink, but Lilty beat me to it :-[
Will there be Dinkies (SAS Defender 90s) too?
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Not unless anyone knows of any pictures of them, besides their mention in Bravo Two Zero I've never seen any pics or mention of them.
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I've no pics, but I have read that they get occasional use (lighter and smaller than a pinkie, perfect for chucking out of a Hercules, perhaps). I can imagine them being pretty similar to the pinkies. But shorter, of course ;)
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i think to make a gud sass addon they should b split up into there differnt sections boat, mobilty, air and mountain. The solders clothes should not look alike boat troop troopers should have dry suits and should be able to have rigid raiders. Air troop should look like sky divers. Mobilty should have there pinkys and mountain should look as though they r expert mountani climbers etc. Sorry if this is not explained very well but hopfully u will get the what iam saying
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I'd be happy to get a SAS trooper that looks like an SAS trooper. I hate it when people make addons with them wearing their berets or that great big baggy balaclava that the black ops came with. The only thing worse than that is putting one of those SA80 toys in their mitts instead of a 203.
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totally agree but i still think it would b really gud if they could b from different squadrons
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ok...here goes......my knowledge of SAS weaponry and uses
HK MP5-SD3/SFA2
MP5-SD3 - variant of the standard MP5 equipped with a silencer and retractable stock
MP5-SFA2 - Solid stock MP5 - no silencer
MP5-A3 - Basic MP5 usually equipped with torch used a lot by SWAT
All of the above used in stealth, Night-time and indoor missions
Combat shotgun, nothing too fancy
^used solely in indoor missions/combat
M-16 - usually equipped with environmental scope (i.e normal day time nighttime IR)- used in outdoor missions where stealth is impossible
ill add more as i remember it lol
pics of the mp5's included d/l the zip
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and also the SAS are highly trained in the art of stealing the dead guys weapon, and being very efficient at it
Quote:Not unless anyone knows of any pictures of them, besides their mention in Bravo Two Zero I've never seen any pics or mention of them.
umm............the storming of the iranian embassy in london.
heres some history of their known involvment in major battles/ and the places they worked in
North-African Desert 1941-1943
Malaya
Borneo
Mirbat (Oman)
Falklands
Counter Terrorist (CRW)
Embassy raid
Gulfwar
Peterhead Prison
Gibraltar
Ethiopia
Gambia
Afghanistan
Bosnia/Kosovo
South America
Zaire
Afghan Airline Hijacking
Albania
ANd, uh......yeah thats the whole IDEA of the SAS they are very secretive
Quote:they should b split up into there differnt sections boat, mobilty, air and mountain
the different sections are as follow
AIR TROOP
BOAT TROOP
MOBILITY TROOP
MOUNTAIN TROOP
URBAN TROOP
every squad rotates and goes through training every so often and so they are fully competent at all functions
CAMOFLAUGE
wooded area's - Standard EuroWoodland Cammo
Urban - Black, plain and simple
Mountains - Euro Snow cammo
desert - euro desert camo
once again ill update when i remember more stuff
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and also the SAS are highly trained in the art of stealing the dead guys weapon, and being very efficient at it
stealing :wow: :o kool ;D
like dey go 2 da dead guyz nd stun em ? :o ::) den take deir weapon ? ;D
cant dey just pick up da weapons from da enemies ??? ::)
LCD OUT
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stealing kool
like dey go 2 da dead guyz nd stun em ? den take deir weapon ?
cant dey just pick up da weapons from da enemies
i think he means being able to pick up an ak47 that one of their enemies dropped and handle it as well as a standard SAS weapon (m16, mp5, whatever)
but in ofp that issue never really comes up
the art of stealing the dead guys weapon
but there are just so many things wrong with that line, it could mean pretty much anything
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yeah i meant that lol, the SAS only pick up a weapon if they think its suitable, if not they dont take it, but if they do take it, they usually dump thier own weapons.......that is of course, only on missions that it doesnt matter that the enemy knew where they were from or that they were there.
well as a standard SAS weapon
:D SAS.........and standard weaponry dont mix my friend lol
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i think he means being able to pick up an ak47 that one of their enemies dropped and handle it as well as a standard SAS weapon (m16, mp5, whatever)
dat meens - skilled w/ weaponry (or shoting difrent types of weps) i think ;) not stealing weapons ;D
but in ofp that issue never really comes up
u can do somin bout dat ;D - ibut only 4 AI units - use setskill command - nd check wat weapons da unit got ;)
@ KJAM
SAS.........and standard weaponry dont mix my friend lol
so wat was dis list b4 ? ;) :P
ok...here goes......my knowledge of SAS weaponry and uses
HK MP5-SD3/SFA2
MP5-SD3 - variant of the standard MP5 equipped with a silencer and retractable stock
MP5-SFA2 - Solid stock MP5 - no silencer
MP5-A3 - Basic MP5 usually equipped with torch used a lot by SWAT
All of the above used in stealth, Night-time and indoor missions
Combat shotgun, nothing too fancy
^used solely in indoor missions/combat
M-16 - usually equipped with environmental scope (i.e normal day time nighttime IR)- used in outdoor missions where stealth is impossible
LCD OUT
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I think he meant British Standard weaponry E.G SA80 although on occasion the SAS do use them
@Rob_SAS
I think we at the Who Dares Wins mod are going to do the different troops at some time 8)
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Quote:Not unless anyone knows of any pictures of them, besides their mention in Bravo Two Zero I've never seen any pics or mention of them.
umm............the storming of the iranian embassy in london.
heres some history of their known involvment in major battles/ and the places they worked in
North-African Desert 1941-1943
Malaya
Borneo
Mirbat (Oman)
Falklands
Counter Terrorist (CRW)
Embassy raid
Gulfwar
Peterhead Prison
Gibraltar
Ethiopia
Gambia
Afghanistan
Bosnia/Kosovo
South America
Zaire
Afghan Airline Hijacking
Albania
ANd, uh......yeah thats the whole IDEA of the SAS they are very secretive
You got the wrong end of the stick mate. Lilty was talking about SAS Dinkie Land Rovers (ie. stripped down Land Rover Defender 90's with guns attached).
What I think people forget about the SAS is that they're primarily an intelligence gathering organisation. In the Falklands, they spent more time sat in hides watching the Argentine forces than engaging them (but they made up for it with the Pebble Island airfield raid, where the Argies guarding it thought they'd been attacked by a battallion of troops with all the noise and chaos.
Also, people think that they worked in France, Italy, and Germany from 1944 onwards, where they worked with resistance fighters and harrassed the enemy to draw valuable assets away from the front.
I think it's a bit of a waste of time to try and list all the guns that they use too. I've been reading SAS books since I was about eight, and anything about them on the telly I'll watch (apart from that awful film "Who Dares Wins." What a load of horsecrap!), but I'd have trouble with listing weapons that they use outside of the basics such as 203 (although they reportedly prefer the Diemaco over the "proper" Colt versions), Minimis, GPMGs, MP5s for CQB, Browning HPs and Sig Sauer P226s as sidearms. I know that they liked to use the G3 and SLR (license-built FN FAL) in desert combat since they're very reliable and have good long-range stopping power, which is what you need in the desert. Also, I read that they used the HK53 (MP5 rechambered to fire the 5.56mm NATO round) in Northern Island for shooting from inside cars until they deemed the 5.56mm round too weak to stop other cars and went on to using a batch of "liberated" folding stock FALs they brought home from the Falklands until they got their hands on some G3Ks (retractable stock G3). Also, in situations where they need to blend in with regular British soldiers, they've been known to carry an SA80 (interestingly, they tested it in the jungle before the rest of the army got their hands on them, and they said that they were unreliable crap. A few months later, the rest of the army was issued with the SA80 ::)). Also, I've seen a few pictures in SAS books of guys carrying what look like G33/41s (not sure which is the correct designation as the G41 was a WWII rifle, but the modern HK one is a G3 rechambered for 5.56mm).
Of course, OFP won't let us make the best weapon an SAS man can have- his fighting dagger :(
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ok...here goes......my knowledge of SAS weaponry and uses
HK MP5-SD3/SFA2
MP5-SD3 - variant of the standard MP5 equipped with a silencer and retractable stock
MP5-SFA2 - Solid stock MP5 - no silencer
MP5-A3 - Basic MP5 usually equipped with torch used a lot by SWAT
All of the above used in stealth, Night-time and indoor missions
Combat shotgun, nothing too fancy
^used solely in indoor missions/combat
M-16 - usually equipped with environmental scope (i.e normal day time nighttime IR)- used in outdoor missions where stealth is impossible
ill add more as i remember it lol
pics of the mp5's included d/l the zip
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and also the SAS are highly trained in the art of stealing the dead guys weapon, and being very efficient at it
Quote:Not unless anyone knows of any pictures of them, besides their mention in Bravo Two Zero I've never seen any pics or mention of them.
umm............the storming of the iranian embassy in london.
heres some history of their known involvment in major battles/ and the places they worked in
North-African Desert 1941-1943
Malaya
Borneo
Mirbat (Oman)
Falklands
Counter Terrorist (CRW)
Embassy raid
Gulfwar
Peterhead Prison
Gibraltar
Ethiopia
Gambia
Afghanistan
Bosnia/Kosovo
South America
Zaire
Afghan Airline Hijacking
Albania
ANd, uh......yeah thats the whole IDEA of the SAS they are very secretive
Quote:they should b split up into there differnt sections boat, mobilty, air and mountain
the different sections are as follow
AIR TROOP
BOAT TROOP
MOBILITY TROOP
MOUNTAIN TROOP
URBAN TROOP
every squad rotates and goes through training every so often and so they are fully competent at all functions
CAMOFLAUGE
wooded area's - Standard EuroWoodland Cammo
Urban - Black, plain and simple
Mountains - Euro Snow cammo
desert - euro desert camo
once again ill update when i remember more stuff
you also happened to miss out one of their most significant operations in recent history, which was Operation BARRAS in Seira Leone....
and really lads... all this armchair expert crap... i don't think there is anyone here who knows anything for sure about the SAS... for the Project UK Forces team, i've done a shed load of investigation into their SOP's and weapon load outs... but there is no way any of you can say 'they use xxxx weapon'.
in short they use what they want, when they want if they deem it the best weapon for the operation... simple hey? they used the AK74 in afghanistan to blend in with their northern alliance counterparts and in NI they used the SA80 to work alongside the Paras.
i think this thread is really starting to move away from the conceptual idea of the SAS, to what they do, where they do it. All other SAS threads go the same way. In truth, none of you know what u r really talking about 100%.... neither do i, and all i do is use my best judgement in the PUKF missions.
lets maybe keep away from their history and armaments, and get back to what you would like to see in an SAS addon, what units and what interesting features...
:thumbsup:
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I think he meant British Standard weaponry E.G SA80 although on occasion the SAS do use them
@Rob_SAS
I think we at the Who Dares Wins mod are going to do the different troops at some time 8)
so will Project UK Forces :)
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Is that a challange :P ;)
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prehaps ;)
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I read in the BAS thread that their Desert Pack vehicles will have random kit attached to them (via hidden selections). Is this possible for soldiers? It'd be great if we could get multiple variations of the basic SAS soldier, eg. in a squad of them, you'd get one with a wooly hat on, one with a floppy hat, one with a cut down floppy hat, one with rolled up sleeves, one with different boots, various variations on the webbing and beltkit, some guys wearing different smocks(the cool Rhodesian DPM smocks, for instance) etc. etc.
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Yes it is possible with units. A very good example of this is Invasion 1944's units they use one model for each group that they have made
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indeed.... we have some veeeeeeeeeeeery interesting additions to our infantry units coming up... as for the SAS.... i'll tell you no secrets and i'll tell you no lies ;)
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I always thought that saying was "If you don't me ask questions, I'll won't tell you lies." Meh.
I think I have an inkling what these "interesting additions" are ;)
... okay, so maybe I don't. Ach, I'm not very good at that "mysterious" thing.
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Of course, OFP won't let us make the best weapon an SAS man can have- his fighting dagger
hmm maybe not......but if you remember the drill adon at ATWAR that damaged people only when it touched them didnt it, maybe a model could be used and have similar effects
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yea it is possible but it dosnt look or work right with the current game engine
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Hey, just asking whether or not the SAS will have bergens? and if they do will they be detachable and attachable.
cya
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Our's will have bergens that will be removable through the action menu 8)
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and ours are removable as weapons ;)
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Messy, wouldn't wearing one of those prevent carrying a LAW80 or other such weapon?
Or are you telling me you found out how you can make a backpack that can carry stuff?
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*keeps quiet*
wait and see my friend, wait and see ;)
(plus i think i've said too much already - lol)
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Or perhaps a way to carry two secondary weapons, either way, I'm a happy camper :)
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*Walks in wearing UKF Gestappo uniform and slaps Messy with leather gloves*
Silence you fool!
::) :P ;D
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Sorry i have lost it abit. Is there going 2 be a Sass addon soon. And do the previous replys mean that the addons gonna be able 2 carry more than 2 weapons eg m60 in hand + law and m16 on back. Sorry if these r stupid questions
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Yes it would seem that there are at least 2 Mods working on SAS units, Who Dares Wins and us, UKF.
As for extra weapons I can't say, not just for secrecy but because I'm not working on them, I'm doing the Land Rovers at the moment.
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Cool cant wait when do u think they will b ready 4 downloadin
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We don't give our release dates
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