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OFPEC The Editing Center => Comments & Suggestions => Topic started by: PBA12511 on 07 May 2003, 02:46:55
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Didnt OFPEC start a campaign a while (looooong while) ago?
What happened?
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as much as i know ;D
its "freezed" project :o ;D
never saw ny1 sayin dat dey stoped workin on it :D
but never saw ny1 workin on it also ::) :P
so i can say :hmm: ;D
LCD OUT
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It's dead.
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since it's dead, can you tell us what it was going to be about?
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A day on the life of the forums ...
Starring all the Moderators as "The Good Guys" fighting off the invading hordes of evil Members.
Over the course of the campaign, you would see the Island of "Forum" taken over by the members, with all the innocent moderators being captured and tortured in the most ghastly ways ... misspelling, use of foul language and *shudder* bad grammar.
Then the mighty Admins step in, rally their Global Moderators and loyal Member turncoats, and leap forth to save the day.
Oh wait ... you meant the OFPEC campaign?
Sorry guys, not a clue.
;D (http://homepages.paradise.net.nz/bandapar/smilies/flash.gif) ;D
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A day on the life of the forums ... misspelling, use of foul language and *shudder* bad grammar.
waddup w/ da bayud grammy, man! >:( ::) punk!
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ill b da boss :P ::)
who wanna join me ? ::) ;D
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well... i still have all the scripts here....
basically it was set in Poland.... after a devastating first strike by the russians... all european armoured ground forces were out of action and a small contingent of uS forces were active in poland... this is were u start off..
the first mission was based as a relief mision (i still have it on file) and u escort a abulance aaround till u get ambushed etc etc
then it goes off on your usual missions, large battles, covert etc... all set in and around poland - i amde 2 missions, i think 3 or 4 others were done...
the 2nd mission i made was a retreat - u set mines, and ran to an extraction... covered the extraction and then got out on the last ride home...
it died because there were only 3 of us who actually worked... the rest never seemed to do much else... then our Story writer etc left... and ir fell apart...
good idea... just hard to co-ordinate it :-\
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howz about releasing those missions?
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Messiah,
Please get in contact with snYpir first, before releasing anything related to the OFPEC Campaign.
Thanks.
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Is that really good Argentinian guy who helped script write still around....can't remember his name :(
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Whew, hopefully we might be ale to get this started up again. (LOL, funny reply huh!!)
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noony - check your IM, Tiger matey... not sure, don't think i worked with him - lol
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A day on the life of the forums ...
Starring all the Moderators as "The Good Guys" fighting off the invading hordes of evil Members.
Over the course of the campaign, you would see the Island of "Forum" taken over by the members, with all the innocent moderators being captured and tortured in the most ghastly ways ... misspelling, use of foul language and *shudder* bad grammar.
Then the mighty Admins step in, rally their Global Moderators and loyal Member turncoats, and leap forth to save the day.
I like this one best.
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ill b da boss :P ::)
who wanna join me ? ::) ;D
LCD OUT
I just knew u were gonna say that! LCD for president! Crush da Moderators! ;D
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That's not fair, the side with LCD on it is bound[/b] to win.
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yeah but... i bring u democracy ::) ;D
u surely cant resist dat ? da ppl of da forums r waitin 4 me 2 free em ;D :o
LCD OUT
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now look what you've done, tomby. Reminds me of the days of the OFPECRM ::) ;D
(I'm sure Black Magic could tell ya all about it, but he's prolly off to exams by now)
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RM ?
real morons ? :o ::)
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The OFPEC campaign:
Full of sound and fury...
(http://www.toadlife.net/stuff/forum_pics/smiley-jack.gif)
...signifying nothing.
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Ok, lets all leave toady to himself atm...
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deal ;D
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Christ, if OFPEC ever made a campaign it would be the best freaking campaign ever.
With all the stuff they know, wowzers it would be awsome
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umm.. well.. not with all the stuff we know, but with all the stuff we have available here at OFPEC.
Have you heard that all the resources are open for public? It's true!! Now anyone can make as good a campaign as OFPEC staff could!!! :o
;D
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umm.. well.. not with all the stuff we know, but with all the stuff we have available here at OFPEC.
Whoa whoa whoa, just a minute ;)
Pretend if snYpir said NOTHING about the blood addon. And then OFPEC made a campaign with the "special suprise" blood addon with the campaign.... Thats why : With all the stuff they know, wowzers it would be awsome
:)
What I meant by that, is that they take all the posibilities in OFP, and they make something amazing out of it. Like the RAH66 Comanche by DKM :)
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Whoa whoa whoa, just a minute ;)
Pretend if snYpir said NOTHING about the blood addon. And then OFPEC made a campaign with the "special suprise" blood addon with the campaign.... Thats why : With all the stuff they know, wowzers it would be awsome
:)
What I meant by that, is that they take all the posibilities in OFP, and they make something amazing out of it. Like the RAH66 Comanche by DKM :)
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'bas' has already come out of it, in a way :)
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just note somin bout da blood addon ;) - it wasnt originaly made by SnYpir - he only improved it (nd was hyelped by asmo ;D) also u cant make a whole campaign cuz u made blood addon ::) :P
im w/ artak on dat 1 - as dere ppl around here datknow things dat no1 else knows nd things like dat ;) but if we lets say take da whole OFPEC mems nd c wat ny1 of em can do... :o :wow:
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Is that really good Argentinian guy who helped script write still around....can't remember his name :(
Tigershark just so u know his name was Radiosilence ;) And he LOVED to write stories. He wrote me a whole campaign when all I wanted was a single mission storyline :)
Anyway if this campaign ever comes back on its feet (don't really think so though) then we still have a deal with the german magazine Gamestar ;)
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Is Radiosilence still around the OFP world, or did he retire?
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From what I could gathered he left around the same time as me. I think said something about spending too much time on OFP and too little time on his family and job.
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oh boy does that sound familiar or what! ::)
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Well I say OFPEC go for it,
the campaign would get thousands of downloads without a shout of a doubt...
I know I would download it, for sh!t sure...
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we did go for it.... twice.... and it failed twice..... because many of the people who signed up didnt do any work, or did a half arsed job... and without teamwork, it fails...
sure, we could try again, but i'd expect the same result.
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Messiah, that is why you get the most dedicated team together. No rookies and people who ask for help and work together, who trade info and other things. Thats one of the qualities that I carry with me. If you put together a team find the best. I could help you too. No rookies. Don't be nice and let in someone who isn't on often either.
Its all about the best of the best and staying focused on the task at hand ::)
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Hmm, dedicated team, that sounds familiar. That's exactly what has been said before the second attempt. And it didn't work.
At the beginning everyone is enthusiastic about it. But once they really have to work on it, they see that not everything is fun about it and that in a team everyone also has to do stuff he doesn't like. And suddenly it's "I don't have no time", "My job/school engagement keeps me busy" or simply deadlines that go up in smoke or people that don't react to e-mails.
You say about marriages that if you marry the second time, hope triumphs over experience. To keep the picture, if you marry a third time you're either stupid or naive. And I don't think we're naive. And we're defenitely not stupid (although some people do think that).
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Ah christ, I said dedicated, not ok i'll do this and not that latter on. Damn, I'm a dedicated person always. I will always stay dedicated. Nothing about building stuff or mission stuff is boring to me. And I don't have distractions that can get in my way. I can spend 4 or 5 hours straight or more working on one or two things. You can find dedicated people, just make sure they aren't going to ditch on you. As in before you get them to help you make them do something for you. Like a test.
Say build this mission and use these units and all this and make it hard not easy. I'm 16 and summer here is coming up in about 3 weeks, i'm able to do stuff all summer, a campaign project I called focus on day and night.
Have you ever heard "if you fail, try and try again", the person who fails and gives up and doesn't try again is not so much looking at it the right way. You have to have confidence. I'm on OFPEC about 14 hours or more each day, I could lead a team if you want me too. I could direct people and make sure they are doing the right thing at the right time. I could get dedicated people, not someone who would sit and say cool then later say no.
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all been done... all those promises have been promised - take it from experience - i've been here nearly 2 years, ive been on the campaign team twice, each time to see my hardwork mean nothing - its ok you being dedicated... but if the other members arent, then what use is it?
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8) neah worries, m8s...
I promise I'll make the campaign all by myself - and tonite! :D Then I'll upload it tomorrow. :)
Trust me! :thumbsup:
( ::) )
;D
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Listen, you don't need a huge team to do it. I can get these people together. I can even get people from out of OFPEC that I know will up hold to this. Dedicated people that is. Professionals. If you let i'll get together a group of ten people or more and we can start work on one.
But you know, it only takes one person to do everything. One person could make islands, units, vehicles, weapons, missions, scripts, and cutscenes. I can make scripts, cam scripted cutscenes, and exellent missions + plus my voice is good.
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You know i've always worked alone on stuff. Like my storyline and other things. I biuld my cutscene's and missions, I do all my stuff alone because I have not many others to work with. If you've seen some of my missions and that campaign in pending that i've made you'll understand that one person or three or four can do it all.
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although have yet to see evidence of this...
ok.. so you are dedicated... so start your own team, make a great campaign - but for it to be an OFPEC campaign, you would have to get OFPEC involved - as i know from talking to wolfsbane alot on the subject a year back... the campaign has always been a touchy point for the site...
but hey, with a new staff rota, then why not - i'd be happy to update the scripts, update the story and get the old missions back onto par - but its up to snYpir to decide and grab my stuff.
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I like the story alot you know. But I was thinking why not have them pull back to Germany and start fighting over there against the Russian's who are still storming accross Poland.
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What Sefe is saying, Brendan, is that we've already been where you're advocating ... twice now.
To do it a third time would be a waste of time and resources given our experience, that could be better spent elsewhere...
Its a case of Inexperienced Enthusiasm vs Actual Experience.
I could get dedicated people, not someone who would sit and say cool then later say no.
Everyone that has opted for leadership of the Campaign project has said that. *Everyone*
The failure is not the enthusiasm of the leader, its the lack of motivation in the staff.
You can sign up anyone that shows promise and loyalty, but until they show consistent motivation and actual results, the project is doomed.
And speaking from experience in RL, once people lose motivation, it is *extremely* difficult to get them 'back in the game', even more so over 'blind' media like the internet.
I'm a dedicated person always. I will always stay dedicated. Nothing about building stuff or mission stuff is boring to me ... You can find dedicated people, just make sure they aren't going to ditch on you. As in before you get them to help you make them do something for you. Like a test.
Again, its a case of "been there, done that, bought the t-shirt". The teams that were built were not rookies, were all highly motivated and enthusiastic and were all well-established as to their skill levels.
But when approached by someone with a good reputation, and a good output level when working by themselves, you can't automatically see if things are going to fail later on.
Its very easy to build things and run things by yourself. Very easy indeed.
You don't have to deal with people, you can make a decision and run with it, you don't have to balance personalities and RL interference.
But once you have a team that you are responsible for, it becomes a very different ballgame, and infinitely more complex if you don't have the experience (which from an OFP community point of view, you're still an unproven quantity).
As Messiah said: "without teamwork, it fails"..
This is not to say don't pursue it, but until people can see actual high-quality output from a dedicated team of your own creation, its hard to ask others to put their trust and their resources within your reach. As it is in RL, so it is on the 'net...
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I love working with people noon. I love it. It makes my work usaully better. But you know, I have no one to work with because most of my friends are in the 44 invassion and some are in the other mods and some are full right now.
Anyways, could you guys give me the missions and i'll start building from were you guys left off. I can work with one of you guys too. I'm great at storyline's and a lot of other stuff so you guys wouldn't need to worry about that. I have summer in two weeks and I wouldn't drop out at all. I'll have all the time in the world so come on you guys, you've been there from EXPRIENCE, you know, I know people who have too been there done that, but they got together a team finally and now they're very succesful. Even if you fail so many times the will some people will have is non-stop. Always there to motivate people not of false hope and thinking of the things that happened in the past but you should've learned from the past and now you can try again and do whatever it takes to keep it going. If more people drop out again then counter that by getting other dedicated people from OFPEC or somewhere else. You can do it, you haven't lost the will to do it guys, you
're just afraid of the consequences that you could face. And you don't want that, do you now. But you know as they say, face the fears and problems instead of walking away from them ;)
If you guys don't want one, thats fine I guess, you guys don't have the will anymore because of experience. I remember when you guys first had the site up around 3 or 2 years ago and you guys were building a campaign and I was so excited along with some other people. But each time it went down. It shouldn't of gone down, I don't know if you tryed to get other people but perhaps if you had then it might have stayed alive on maybe only 5 or 4 people.
Brendan G.
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If more people drop out again then counter that by getting other dedicated people from OFPEC or somewhere else ... ... It shouldn't of gone down, I don't know if you tryed to get other people but perhaps if you had then it might have stayed alive on maybe only 5 or 4 people.
Yes, they tried each time, and they added more enthusiastic and skilled people each time to replace those that left.
face the fears and problems instead of walking away from them
... only up to a point.
Is it a realistic expectation that after two strong, lengthy, strenuous efforts and consequent failures, that a third will succeed where the other two efforts have already tread?
My advice (and challenge ;)) to you is this...
1. Spend the two weeks on your break making a large, high-quality campaign as part of your own assembled team.
2. Use that campaign to demonstrate to OFPEC your team's level of ability to be able to produce a campaign that we would be proud to have bear our name.
If you succeed then you might very well end up with the job of making our campaign (no promises though, not my end decision).
But on the other hand, at the very least if you don't succeed, you'll know why we have the attitude that we have.
Sound like you're up to the challenge?
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Sounds like a good challenge to me. Only problem is, why hasn't my thing in the training depot come up yet? I can't recuit if nothing is in the training depot, you know.
Oh and I have more than 2 weeks, more like 2 months and 3 weeks of summer vacation. But that does not start till June 12th. In the mean time, some alow me to get some stuff up in the training depot so I can recuit people.
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I just got finished with a few more. If someone can get those up and running too. ;D
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I'm now going to start getting a team together. I'm also going to find people I know and see if they want to join in the fun.
Noon, do you know anyone who could host a site for me?
Thanks!
P.S. If I succeed, I might help you guys out if you still want a campaign for OFPEC, but then again I might go for someone else :) :P
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Noon, do you know anyone who could host a site for me?
Use Google and try something like "Free webhosting". Or use the answer from your thread about the Beta Testing Forums. ;)
P.S. If I succeed, I might help you guys out if you still want a campaign for OFPEC, but then again I might go for someone else
That would be entirely your perogative, Brendan.
But then if you decided not too, it would defeat the intent of all the posts you've made here today, would it not?
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I was just messing with you Noon. If it shines and looks good then of course if you guys offer, I will accept :)
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:wow:
som1 is realy full of himself
@ BMG - i tried ur 1st campaign nd it was missin som v. important things :P
@ Tomb - yea right - realese it just after da TMCM ::) :toocool: - dey r undergoin so much polishin dey r prooly shinin like da sun now :o :wow:
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LCD,
I created that campaign three months ago and i'm better now. I have so much more skills. SO one, i'm not full of it dude. Two, you'd better watch out for my next campaign that is going to be released within the next 3 weeks.
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I need people who can create a Korean Island and a Winter Korean Island, anyone know of somebody who can help me out here?
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@ BMGARCANGEL <Brendan>
Check out the Training Depot... The people you seek can be found there ;)
IW
Note: People.... Isn't there a Korean Pack out now with people and island?
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@ BMGARCANGEL <Brendan>
Found it... Click on the link and scroll all the way down and look for the title North Korean Army Pack 2! by Remo
http://ofp.gamezone.cz/index.php?newlang=eng
IW
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Iwesshome, this is a Korean War MOD, 1950 - 1953, that war, not the modern one. I'm talking when we still used M1 Garand rifles and Sherman tanks. By the way I could use those weapons too. But i'd like to get a team together and have us build it instead of using someone elses creation, you know :P
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*cough*
Off-Topic
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You know, your campaign, did it use custom eveything ( aka custom units, vehicles, men, weapons, buildings, etc )?
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Noon,
Understood... just lending a helping hand and forgot to IM
IW
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*yawn, no one talks here anymore, ah this will wake people up! ;D :booty: :D*everyone smiles for some odd reason, now someone please answer my previous post above this >:(
Thank you ;)
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You know, your campaign, did it use custom eveything ( aka custom units, vehicles, men, weapons, buildings, etc )?
this was a sore point in the campaign... we strived to make the campaign playable by everyone - including slow connections etc... so we made every effort too keep addon numbers down - all units in the first version of ofp were considered and then through to 1.46 - at the last straw would we use addons, because we knew that a campaign becomes unattractive if you need to download a load of addons.
we used a few though - Chris's polish soldiers, Gimbals' Tossers, and some we made
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Wow, I didnt know my post would get this far, can I hope it becomes sticky ;D ;) ??? Or is that asking for too much? :P ::)
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ah I see.
Damn, well, you know with my new MOD, i'm going to have to use addons for almost every single thing. All the units, vehicles, weapons and crap, you know that back in the early 50's having an M16 around would look a little weird :P :gunman: :beat:
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:hmm:
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I got my own forum at my site up, just like this sites forum, wana see it go to
http://www.freewebs.com/koreaconflict
Brendan G.
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As our friendly "Cookie Monster" would say...
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Off-Topic
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Iwesshome, you moderators / administrators will always be a pain in the ass ( just joking around dude ;D :P )
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Oh... I am not worthy of being a moderator and I am blinded by the light of the administrators 8). I am just trying to successfully set an example on the forums.
Since we are talking about addons and campaigns I figured I would throw something out real quick before going off topic.
@ BMGARCANGEL <BrendanG>
- Instead of spending your whole summer trying to create a massive MOD which usually takes months to almost a year with designing everything new... Why don't you use the great addons we have already have to create quality missions for the OFP community?
Noon is right though that unless you plan on creating a massive MOD, try to limit the amount of addons you have. Unless of course you plan on using high quality addons that most OFP personal use.
Example: BAS Delta/Rangers
IW
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I have no choice dude. Its a Korean war Mod man. They don't use M16's then. Plus I have to make now a new island. The island will be in the area of
the Chosin Reservoir, were the first battle happened between U.S. and chinese forces. It will be a winter island. This is were the campaign ( mod ) will be focused at. Its not going to be a 3 or 4 week project though, it will take longer. So don't judge me, I know what i'm getting into and i'm prepared to go into it with my eyes open and my gun at the ready. Go to my site, you'll see what addons will be made for this
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Seriously guys,
Last warning. OFPEC Campaign discussion only.
Next time, we'll be forced to lock the thread...
If you guys need to discuss this, Brendan has new forums that need stressing, or start a new thread in the relevant OFPEC board, discussing the editing help required for the mod.
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So you've been there Noon :) you were the guest.
Ok i'll get back on topic now.
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Guys, I dont need the moderators to lock this topic, I can lock it my self with that little 'solved' button at the bottom. ;D ahh, the power of cheese.
Ok, topic, I think that OFPEC staff should deside if this campaign should be restarted. Why? Because its the OFPEC campaign. So, BMGcarwhatever, Id only start if the OFPEC staff all (yes, all) agree to start it up again.
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oh the wonders of democracy at work.
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Ah the messiah speaks, the pwoer of democracy. Yes, I agree with both of you. I guess.
No, I agree with PBA only, I think really that it should be restarted again but with the trouble i'm already going through I understand why they disagree.
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So, maybe we should somehow not only use the training depot, but maybe intelligence depot to let other people know that this might get started up again, and we need as much support as possible (especially from OFPEC staff) to try and get it going again?
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Look PBA, you gota understand first the utter stress and mayhem you know. If we do this and we are successful in getting it up and one of us becomes the leader or something ( i don't know ) you'd have to stay in it and you'd have to work on your things and get it done on time. In there last campaign everything failed because people got out of it and didn't turn in there homework on time >:(
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Hmm... You seem to think you know a lot about the old OFPEC campaigns... hard to figure since you weren't a part of them.
If you guys would like to make a campaign/mod, please go ahead. The community would benefit from another good one.
However until OFPEC staff members decide to start an official, affiliated effort, there will be no OFPEC campaign.
As I've said, feel free to make your own. But I'm afraid you can't go putting our name on it ;)
Anyway, this thread is way past it's used by date ::)
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