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Title: Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: STEELE on 31 Aug 2002, 11:11:57
Dose anyone have any info as to when these will be released? ???
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: OCOM_LMLVLM on 31 Aug 2002, 11:14:31
Ask Bibmi  ;)
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: STEELE on 01 Sep 2002, 13:52:39
Just brilliant! ::) y didnt I think of that.
Well Bibmi... WHEN?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Big-Boss on 01 Sep 2002, 14:16:10
You could PM him: Designers don't like giving out dates so don't be surprised to get a reply saying "when it's done!"
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 03 Sep 2002, 19:31:44
When they're done  ;D

I'm hoping a pre-Resistance version will be released soon...its just a matter of time (a very limited and precious commodity). The models and textures are ready its just a matter of compiling the .cpp's...there are four...or is it five substantial addons...here's a link where you can see a couple of screenshots and download a "teaser"...

http://www.angelfire.com/games4/bibspecops/
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Davies1 on 04 Sep 2002, 00:17:35
fuck man that guy with the benny hat on is the best, hurry up you scrote  ;) joking....

 ;D

thats some cool stuff right there my man, keep going :D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 04 Sep 2002, 03:22:26
Yeah, the camo on that guy looks excellent!  I also like the guy in the desert camo with the hood.  I remember the sniper model, I forget from which group, with the backwards hat, which was great.

But my favorite would have to be the Rangers, so very cool.

I WANT IT NOW!!!!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: bugkill on 04 Sep 2002, 21:42:41
bibmi,

       will they be available for resistance also? it would make sense because spec ops usually always carry pistols for a secondary. so, please give them pistols.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 05 Sep 2002, 17:15:51
Initially.......and maybe depending on the Gods...these were planned to be Resistance only...

Unfortunately, I still haven't been able to get my hands on a copy so there is no way to test the models I have with the handgun proxy already included...but, yes handguns will be included with the addon...when, well thats another question...still backlogged.....
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Skaven on 05 Sep 2002, 17:37:38
Bimbi, if you need to test your boys in Resistance, drop me a link and I'll do that for you mate  ;)
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: bugkill on 05 Sep 2002, 19:21:51
bibmi,


    i will definitely help out also, blast it my way!!! i sent you an IM with my contact info.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Davies1 on 06 Sep 2002, 01:04:24
bibmi this is just a cheap ploy to get to play with these models  ;)
since we're on the subject........*ahem*...
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: 3XTR3ME on 07 Sep 2002, 03:28:18
Skaven, É você fazendo qualquer somar-ons para OFP:R, só não tem veja ao redor isso é tudo
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 07 Sep 2002, 07:26:42
Other Lauguages, Oh Boy, (so we can't under stand), but Bibmi you say your in South Africa Right? you should buy it online if it's not available in Stores there. any way I'm Lookin' Forward to it!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 07 Sep 2002, 09:03:53
I'm South African...but I'm living in Taiwan (no credit cards for foreigners so no online shopping).

3XTR3ME -  I would appreciate it if you stick to English  ::)

The Delta force models have been changed from the "teaser" version...I've added an actual ammo pouch to the leg so it is no longer just a texture (and changed it to black). I also changed the boots to black...thanks Bugkill...iit looks much better..

If anyone else has any suggestions let me know before I begin wrapping up the delta force units and preparing to release it...........
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: OCOM_LMLVLM on 07 Sep 2002, 09:35:19
Are you gonna equip em with your m4's/reflex....?  ???
and will they work with ofp 1.75 ??
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: OCOM_LMLVLM on 07 Sep 2002, 09:36:57
also, do they have a Wound Textures ? cause the "teaser" version didnt have em  :-[
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 07 Sep 2002, 19:12:19
also, do they have a Wound Textures ? cause the "teaser" version didnt have em  :-[

On his site, I think it said that he has blood textures, so yes, I suppose.   ;D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 07 Sep 2002, 22:11:55
You should Give'em Small Day Packs, I know Real Delta Have them on Recon Missions (when they do Recon Missions) and other Behind Enemy Lines type stuff. Nothin' Too big just a little Jan Sport Type thing.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Jonstyle on 08 Sep 2002, 13:10:54
Will you use Fliper's M4 pack?   Pleeeease do!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bosniarat on 09 Sep 2002, 18:27:18
http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=1917&d=
http://www.blackhawkindustries.com/product_detail.asp?product_id=2030&d=
I guessed they didnt hyperlink so just Cut and Paste :P
These links may be of use, I found them while searching for some New Equipment. the second link shows what PunkerSXDX was talking about :) Have a good one
HOOOAAH!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Coporal_Punishment on 10 Sep 2002, 09:20:39
Sweetness that equipment looks awsome it looks better then the issued webbing kits given to allied forces i.e. Bit, Canadian, US,and Aus forces.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 11 Sep 2002, 02:56:54
Yeah that's exactly what I was talkin' about, I saw the exact same thing in a Ranger Joe Catalog.  :D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 15 Sep 2002, 18:17:21
Bad news...hard-drive failure...will try...to...ressurect addon...MEDIC!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 15 Sep 2002, 20:10:00
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :noo: :noo: :noo:
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: viper172 on 16 Sep 2002, 06:24:52
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Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 16 Sep 2002, 21:28:08
I will have to agree with viper.  :noo: :noo: :noo: :noo:
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Frosty on 17 Sep 2002, 13:58:09
Holy crap sticks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 17 Sep 2002, 22:17:31
Okay Enough Yelling and Screaming. Bibmi, Is there any thing we can do to help?

PS Do you have a DELL?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 22 Sep 2002, 21:47:45
So.... what happened? Bibmi, what's the status with this project???
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 27 Sep 2002, 23:49:22
Is all lost?  :'(
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: 3XTR3ME on 28 Sep 2002, 06:23:26
ah, I believe he didnt have any beta testers that had the addons themselves....tough luck whenever I make an addon for ofp and other games I always let people beta test and when I have problems like this they just send me the addon
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 28 Sep 2002, 20:25:52
Well, I have the Demo Dessert Delta buy that came from his site. I'm sure others do too, so Just wait and See, and Bibmi hasn't been on for a While so I susspect he's deep in some Laboratory, with Ompa Lompas, Building His Addon, LIVE DAMN IT LIVE HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D ;D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 07 Oct 2002, 14:48:03
Sorry for the lack of updates...good news though...I've recruited STEELE to help out with the coding and testing of what I could recover which is mostly everything...sort of...so hopefully these addons are back on track as well as some other little surprises in the works...
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bosniarat on 07 Oct 2002, 17:01:43
HOOOOAAAH! ;D ;D ;D
Thats Great News! I was kinda worried there for a moment :P Cant wait too see them!
HOOOOAAAAH! ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Big-Boss on 07 Oct 2002, 20:36:55
Great work!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: STEELE on 07 Oct 2002, 22:50:08
Thanks for the oppotunity Bibmi;
Guys Bibmi has outdone himself with these guys. ;D
The Desert Rangers are my personal favourites! Other units we're working on for the pack include;
Rangers in Woodland camo.
Rangers in Desert 3 colour (Ala BHD)
Green Berets in Desert & Woodland camo
& last but by no means least:
DELTA OPERATORS in Desert & Woodland.

Currently they're using a ranger of weapons including Flippers M4's, Taiwan Workshops M249 & standard game weapons.
They all have working Flak vests that will stop a pistol round to the chest, & BiBmi & I are looking at doing versions for 1.46 & 1.75.
Well thats it for now I'll post some pics when I have time, cheers STEELE :)
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 07 Oct 2002, 23:00:15
All those different models, all those different camos, I cannot wait!! ;D

Great job, you two.  Glad you could recover most of it, Bimbi.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Eviscerator on 07 Oct 2002, 23:29:05
any news on the vietnam soldiers?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 08 Oct 2002, 01:14:32
Bibmi Great News, Your Not Dead Yaaaaaa! :D I Knew you were in a Lab Yelling at your Helper guy with the Hunch Back, Yelling Live Darn It Live (why cant I say Damn?) we all Missed ya Buddy! It's good to hear from ya.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 08 Oct 2002, 01:44:07
I have a couple questions, just to make the thread more interesting:

1) Will the soldiers be released in separate packs by their group, or will they all be under one Special Forces pack?

2) Will the third-party weapons you are using modified in any way for consistency or what not?

3) Any plans to include any additional weapons or use any you created before (if they were not lost)?  For example, what will the snipers of the groups use, the OFP default?

4) Have an estimate on when it will be released?  A simple "when it's done" will do. ;D

Oh yeah, if you could supply any more updated screenshots I would appreciate it. ;D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 08 Oct 2002, 10:56:48
Evi...I sent all the US soldier files I recovered to Ebud and Select...

Chomps...you'll have to ask STEELE about the weapons...Ideally, what I'd like to see is...

1. Rangers (M16 and M203s) - ingame
                (SAW) - I think Steeles already reworked the Taiwan Workshops SAW

2. Green Berets (FlipeRs M4s - he gave me permission to use them a while back and although I haven't got the res ones...I hear they're awesome)

3. Delta (SOPMOD M4s...reflex and acog sights - unfortunately I lost my models of them, but they could easily be redone...just that they weren't very good  :-\ )

ditto for the delta snipers a modified M4 with all the sniper attatchments (the modified M21 is a "clunky" weapon from what I here). don't know if one exists...


screenshots soon...
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Delta_One_Zero on 08 Oct 2002, 13:31:17
Regarding the Delta Sniper, couldn't you just use Flipers' M4A1 with Suppressor (ala BHD.. minus the M68 Reflex, which in retrospect wouldn't really work out, still hopefully Fliper plans too release his M68 equipped M4A1's soon'ish).
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 08 Oct 2002, 23:12:43
Granted the M-21 has been done to death and is a bit heavy... but there are other 7.62mm precision rifles out there. Why not a HK G3SG1, MSG-90, or even a PSG-1, all of which have fantastic models already made for OFP? If you prefer a US based sniper weapon, how about a SR-25 with Knight supressor, Harris bipod and Leupold scope?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: andy51 on 08 Oct 2002, 23:35:35
Bibmi- on your site i saw a brit SF soldier in standard green camo and camo face and a wooly hat(SAS?),a desert guy (SAS?), and a Royal Marine,are you going to release these after the US SF?

If so how about the Special Boat Service being included as a unit, as there is yet to be an SBS addon released.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 09 Oct 2002, 00:30:42
Granted the M-21 has been done to death and is a bit heavy... but there are other 7.62mm precision rifles out there. Why not a HK G3SG1, MSG-90, or even a PSG-1, all of which have fantastic models already made for OFP? If you prefer a US based sniper weapon, how about a SR-25 with Knight supressor, Harris bipod and Leupold scope?


True, the HK mod has made all of those quite well.  In fact, their MSG90 is absolutely superb, except for the visible tracers.  If you could get their permission to use any of those rifles, that would be swell.

On another note, the Taiwan Workshop released a new version of their US machine gun pack, you may want to check it out.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 09 Oct 2002, 01:24:18
You could try using Guns from the Tales of war sight they have a Good M21 (but like said before it's been done... to DEATH!) with cammo and a Silencer, or one of the M4s on the MF Recon guys (donno if it's separate), BTW a Sniper is any one over looking the Battle Picking Folks off from cover, you could be a Sniper with a Kozlice (not Likely) so an M16 would work for a "Sniper" it's the just Rifles specialy Designed for Sniping (sorry didn't mean to Preach), the Army Special Forces Guys should come equiped with AKs too I know in Vietnam they used AKs deep in enemy terittory cause the AK sounds A LOT different from an M16 and wanted to Blend in, so the NVA would think it was Charlie cookin' Breakfast not a Raid.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Frosty on 09 Oct 2002, 10:51:07
And also US Special Troops preffered the AK over their "Jammin' Jinny/Jimmy". Damn A1 got dirt in the chamber too easily, and the plastic stock broke heaps. Thats why it was also called the "Mattel Toy"
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: mattmayhem on 09 Oct 2002, 15:24:14
If you do a suppresed M4 for a sniper weapon, make an M4 shorty with a large extended scilecer, I think that it looks much much nicer than the dinky socom scilencer at the end  of the barrel. Great work !!! .  ;)

P.s Delta one zero why wouldint the M68 aimpoints not workout for a sniper on the M4 ?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Delta_One_Zero on 09 Oct 2002, 21:53:07
P.s Delta one zero why wouldint the M68 aimpoints not workout for a sniper on the M4 ?
I was actually stating that it would be better with one than without, but there isn't a M4 with the M68 Reflex addon around at the moment, at least from my understanding, correct me if i'm wrong of course. (The TOW US Marine Force Recon soldiers  have the Trijicon TAO1 4x32 ACOG Scope on their M4A1's)
Of course there is Flipers' M4A1 w/M68 pack, can't wait till thats released.
I might add that the M68 is better suited too CQB style ops, hense the CCO in its name (Close Combat Optics), which would of course be perfect for Delta Operators.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 10 Oct 2002, 03:49:12
Speaking of Delta...
Today I attended a counter-terrorism briefing hosted by the American Military University at a local AFB. One of the guest speakers at the seminar was a SOF-D operator. He didn't say, and I didn't ask, if he was still kicking down doors- he looked approximatly in his mid-thirties. Not important.
Anyway... after the briefing, I had a chance to share a cup of coffee with him, and ask a couple (unclassified) questions. Faithfully, my mind was on OFP and BHD.
First, I asked him what weapon Delta snipers used, and was told: Delta snipers- like all SOF-D operators- carry whatever weapon(s) they are most comfortable/profficient with, and are limited only by what hardware is stored in their vaults. Whatever makes the badguy DEAD. The guns most often used are all of the one's we've seen, and have discussed in this thread. He did mention the AWP and Galil weapons, as well. Delta snipers typically shoot from less than 300m, with a 7.62mm in most cases... though if the mission requires, they can/will use the .50 out to maximum range. This guy was a CQB specialist and said he used an Aimpoint equipped MP5-SD most of the time.
My other line of questioning dealt with Delta medics...  I asked if SOF-D brought their own doc's with them on an operation, or did they use other SPECOPS medical units for emergencies? His answer was: Both are correct. Delta members are all trained in intermediate to advanced first-aid and lifesupport. In a team, one or two operators will have more medical training and will be equipped and tasked to be a medic for fellow team members. If the mission is primarily hostage rescue related, additional medical support units are tasked to the operation. These units would include USAF PJ's, and sometimes USN SEAL corpsman.
I was satisfied with the info, and didn't want to be a bore, so I chose to end the discussion with a trip to the breakfast cart.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: mattmayhem on 10 Oct 2002, 05:25:44
Thats some nice info ferret ! Must have been neat to talk to that operator. I am not suprised that their snipers engage at minus 300 meters, i can see delta snipers supporting close in on nearby roofs or choppers or whatever.So they wpuld probably look exactly like any other member of the assault team. I can see marine snipers as the real long range, sneak around stalking in a ghuile suit etc...
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: STEELE on 10 Oct 2002, 14:20:08
Bibmi & I are toying with a couple of NEW M4's for delta now, stay tuned ;)
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Longknife on 10 Oct 2002, 22:09:15
Does this include the long awaited and highly anticipated "Special Forces" units?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 11 Oct 2002, 00:56:21
Well everthing seems to be on track....ETA....I can't give an exact date but I'm keeping my fingers crossed that everything will be ready before the end of the month...

A few things to point out...this is not a pack as such but a colloection of addons...for ease of editing and to keep the textures from getting mixed up there will a large number of pbo's...oh no, I hear you cry...I hate lots of pbo files....but then again you may not want all the units...so it will save you download time and my sanity.  ;D

The addon(s) will include....


1. Rangers (desert and woodland) 99% done (coding left to do)

2. Delta Force (desert and woodland) 98% done (coding and M4 coding left to do)

          - the M4s (be kind and remeber weapon models aren't my thing) include M4 with acog, M4 with reflex and a sniper kitted M4.

3. Army Special Forces (green berets in woodland and desert) 99% done coding to do

4. USAF Parajumpers (woodland and desert) 99% done, coding still has to be started.

5. Regular Infantry (woodland and desert) 90% done, finishing desert textures and coding

                    - I decided to do some regular forces to compliment the Rangers...they have body armor,LBE and packs, but no kneepads or goggles.

6. SEALs (woodland, desert and night ops) 50% done...this is a revamp of my earlier Seals addon



AS you can see there is a boat load....
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 11 Oct 2002, 01:14:29
Yes!!  That sounds great!  If you release them after the v1.85, please include them in your own vehicle class (for more info, http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=2428;start=0;boardseen=1 (http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=2428;start=0;boardseen=1)), so you do not have to give them the BIB tag, so they are perfect.

Also, I saw the pictures of the PJs... very nice work, they should fit well with the special operations choppers from BAS.

Any more pictures would be nice, though. ;D Keep up the good work!!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Coporal_Punishment on 11 Oct 2002, 01:16:52
Wowee that'll be awsome BTW is there anyway to replace the default regular troops with your troops Bibmi ???
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 11 Oct 2002, 02:48:31
Wow  :o Bibmi, Steele, Ogady ogady ogady! you boys have been busy, hey the Army Special Forces will have guys with Berets Right?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 11 Oct 2002, 03:21:38
Awesome! 'Bout time someone kicked it up a notch... and thank you for the PJ's!!! They were waaaay overdue! I was wondering... could you give us some info as to how the special ability's/attributes for the various units is being implemented? For instance, the PJ should be able to heal of course... Delta operators should have increased skill levels, accuracy, etc. Rangers should have greatly increased armor, though I don't know if there is a way to model body armor...?
Black Baron's T-800 mod has increased armor, but I think he modeled the unit from a tank or something, maybe we should ask him? Army and Navy SPECOPS units should have higher camoflage capability, and so forth...
And for regular troops, do you think you could make them representitive of the various era's of technology? For instance, troops since the 'Ninties started carrying the M-4, Barreta sidearm, PASGT armor, goggles, kneepads, etc.
The next era would be Landwarrior, with an M-4/M203 and that massive IIR/LLTV scope... combined armor/LBE, kneepads/elbow pads, SOCOM pistol, etc. See here for info and pic's: http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/land-warrior.htm

And the icing on the cake could be the Objective Force Warrior, which looks like a green Stormtrooper from Star Wars with the OICW, PDW sidearm, and so on. You can see what the prototype system looks like here: http://www.defenselink.mil/news/May2002/n05242002_200205248.html
and better pic is here: http://www.janes.com/regional_news/americas/news/jdw/jdw020610_1_n.shtml
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 11 Oct 2002, 05:31:56
Just for you Chomps... ;)

Added some more pics...

http://www.angelfire.com/games4/bibspecops/
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 11 Oct 2002, 06:20:26
Why thank you, Bimbi.  ;D

Those regular troops are quite an improvement over the default ones.  Keep up the good work!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 11 Oct 2002, 06:26:42
Your Web site Crashed >:(  ???
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 11 Oct 2002, 06:49:04
Your Web site Crashed >:(  ???

Angelfire turns off the site temporarily if it is visited too often.... ermmm.... sorry.  It should be up again tomorrow.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Davies1 on 11 Oct 2002, 20:19:14
hey bibmi, nice to see it all coming together... Any info on your British infantry?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Eviscerator on 11 Oct 2002, 20:52:15
Yes!!  That sounds great!  If you release them after the v1.85, please include them in your own vehicle class (for more info, http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=2428;start=0;boardseen=1 (http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=2428;start=0;boardseen=1)), so you do not have to give them the BIB tag, so they are perfect.

Also, I saw the pictures of the PJs... very nice work, they should fit well with the special operations choppers from BAS.

Any more pictures would be nice, though. ;D Keep up the good work!!


he will still need to use tags...all this means is that instead of putting them in 'armoured/men/cars' he can put them in 'bibmi's addons', but if he has the soldier class as seal1 and someone else comes along and uses the same class, the addons will be read wrong and will kind of merge with p3d and config going all wrong, so he will still need tags, although they arent needed for the display name
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 11 Oct 2002, 23:56:30
Yes!!  That sounds great!  If you release them after the v1.85, please include them in your own vehicle class (for more info, http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=2428;start=0;boardseen=1 (http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=13;action=display;threadid=2428;start=0;boardseen=1)), so you do not have to give them the BIB tag, so they are perfect.

Also, I saw the pictures of the PJs... very nice work, they should fit well with the special operations choppers from BAS.

Any more pictures would be nice, though. ;D Keep up the good work!!


he will still need to use tags...all this means is that instead of putting them in 'armoured/men/cars' he can put them in 'bibmi's addons', but if he has the soldier class as seal1 and someone else comes along and uses the same class, the addons will be read wrong and will kind of merge with p3d and config going all wrong, so he will still need tags, although they arent needed for the display name

Thanks for clearing that up for me.  I was mainly concerned with the display name.  I guess editors only had tags there so you can distinguish between addons on the editor list.  With a new vehicle class, he only has to worry about his own addon display names.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 12 Oct 2002, 04:41:18
Bibmi, I just saw your new Pics, since they weren't ingame I guess it's hard to get a feel for how they look, the textures are good, the only problem was the SEALs had the Ninja thing on their head, and I don't beleve SEALs ever cover every thing like that, they might just put a big cloth bandana over their mouth, but to Subdue their face they 99 times out of  100 they just use Cammo Paint. and on all the units the Collars are fliped up, looks okay, but I'd have them down (but that's just Me  ;) ) any ways it looks very good! especialy Delta, extra Oi!'s for the D Boys. but what happened to the Army Special Forces? are you still doing them?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 12 Oct 2002, 06:37:40
I'm hating Angelfire, Bibmi...
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 13 Oct 2002, 02:57:20
I'm hating Angelfire, Bibmi...

Let's throw Sticks at Angelfire  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: .357 SIG on 13 Oct 2002, 18:50:29
Well, great work Bimbi.
Just two questions.
Are bad guys gonna be placed under resistance or east side?
Are you gonna equip them not only with AK weapons but also with FALs ans G3s?

Anyway, keep up the good work.  
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 13 Oct 2002, 23:36:15
and M16s and Hand Guns, they use what ever they can Buy, or Steal!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: .357 SIG on 14 Oct 2002, 15:53:21
... or scavenge  ;)

IMO, the variety of militia weapons would improve gameplay a lot. Of course AK wapons would cover about 60% of their weaponary, and the remaining 40 % would go for Fals, G3s, M16s or whatever else (but not necessarly G36 and Steyr weapons. They're poor militia after all).

Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: STEELE on 14 Oct 2002, 16:15:24
Who said we were doing "Bad Guys"? ???
This is the US Elite Forces addon  ::)
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 14 Oct 2002, 16:27:50
Who said we were doing "Bad Guys"? ???
This is the US Elite Forces addon  ::)

I think they were refering to the pictures of the African Militia soldiers on Bibmi's site.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: .357 SIG on 14 Oct 2002, 19:11:03
Very nice pictures of African militia  ;D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 15 Oct 2002, 09:15:20
Believe me when I say at Least 90% of Africa's paramilitary (rebel, guerilla (sp), freedom fighters, terrroists) are equipped with hardware from the former Soviet Union. In fact most official militaries use the Ak as their primary weapon. Why? Its realtive cheap cost and durability are the primary reasons. The African Militia addon is a way off, but expect lots of Aks, maybe some Fals.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: bugkill on 15 Oct 2002, 11:37:48
steele,
   
        please check your IM, i sent you a message.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 16 Oct 2002, 01:17:28
Hey Bibmi, can you post more Screens of the Delta guys?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: OCOM_LMLVLM on 16 Oct 2002, 04:15:34
Bibmi, when you'll finish your African Militia.....than just equip 'em with UCE's AKM(ak47), and a g3 from an H&K pack by LB mod............
btw, do you have ne pics of teh M4's(A1/sop) that you want to equip your SF guys with ?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: JFK on 21 Oct 2002, 20:41:09
once again bimbi supplies us with possibly some of the best addons around........

i want i want i want

 ;)
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 22 Oct 2002, 05:47:23
hey bibmi it's been a few day since you or STEELE updated us, need the Info, throw me a frickin' bone here, I'm hip I'm with it! but you should make your new soldiers evil!!!!!
Sorry got a little Dr. Evil in me today  :hmm:
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Dkraver on 25 Oct 2002, 02:19:37
Believe me when I say at Least 90% of Africa's paramilitary (rebel, guerilla (sp), freedom fighters, terrroists) are equipped with hardware from the former Soviet Union. In fact most official militaries use the Ak as their primary weapon. Why? Its realtive cheap cost and durability are the primary reasons. The African Militia addon is a way off, but expect lots of Aks, maybe some Fals.

Hmm i would say you are wrong about the 90%. Africa was the third (think, might be fourth or higher) front of the cold war. Even though it wasnt West and east units fighting against each other (But "advisors", except Angola where russian soldiers where based) it was these two sides that put loads of weapons into the hands of the different countries "leaders".
East
Main Supplier. Russia and China
Weapons. AK47, RPG's
Armour. T55, PT76, BTR-60, BTR 52 (also the chinese counter parts) and basicly the old weapons of the east block.
West
Main suppliers. France, UK (coloni nation's) and US
Weapons. FN FAL, HK G3, M16
Armour. M60, Centurion, M48, AMX's, M3 APC.
Most of the armour have been destroyed in the different Battle through out africa. And the M16 havent lasted that long because of the plastic parts on it. Left are the AK, FN FAl and the G3. I would say in a ratio of 60% AK and 40% FN FAL and G3 Based on book material i have. Also if you look at news cast from african conflicts with rebels and the others when you have a group of 7-8 people 4 or 5 of them will have ak's, others one of the two others or even a third kind. But movies mostly show AK's when talking about Africa conflicts.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 25 Oct 2002, 05:22:28
It would depend a lot on what country your in, and how well... "established" the Military is, take Samolia for example, no Gov't just Warlords and Mercenarys, they use what ever they can get, but say South Africa Probly uses better Gear like AK74s or M16 (but I don't know for sure), and then you got the small countrys that are in between, and probly use AKMs or other weapons, also there are the Northern Countrys like Egypt and Libya that get AK47s and T72s and relativly good Gear, it's all a mess, there are Dozens of Countrys in Africa all with Different Militarys and Governments, and Bibmi is from South Africa (Right?) so he'd probly know better that a lot of us who are from Europe or the US and Canada Mostly.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 25 Oct 2002, 07:14:10
Sorry about the lack of updates...I was hoping to release something this weekend, but I'll be away on business...I'll have more information next week...the end is near...
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 25 Oct 2002, 20:15:06
That is good news.

Anyway, Bibmi, if you get a chance, check out this thread: http://www.ofpec.com/yabbse/index.php?board=15;action=display;threadid=2660
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: TkKivi on 27 Oct 2002, 07:20:49
Thou i have never seen US army live or anything,

about the regular infantry camo pattern, is it like that in the modern US BDUÂ's? ...the original camo pattern from OFP, to be honest i hate it.  :P
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 27 Oct 2002, 10:51:57
Which do you mean? What actual US BDU's look like, or how BIS textured the US troops for the game? I've never been a fan of the standard US woodland camo pattern...
MARPAT is like very small, ( think digital pixles that make up the image on your monitor ) squares of green, brown, and black I think, in varying shades, and random patterns.
That is how the new USMC camo is patterned, and I hope the rest of the US military forces follow suit.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: TkKivi on 27 Oct 2002, 19:08:15
umm, for example in Ghost recon the US units, the woodland camo.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: contraz0rz on 27 Oct 2002, 20:52:51
these addons look VERY good, can't wait for a release!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 28 Oct 2002, 06:51:37
My Dad is in the US Army and has been since before I was Born I'm Joining is a Year when I turn 18 and Finish High School and I think there are a lot of inaccuracys in OFP but the Cammo Textures in the Game for US soldiers are Perfect! in don't know about the Reds but the US's are Right On, so I wouldn't Change them.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Hawkins on 29 Oct 2002, 08:46:51
The Russian camo isn't the one they use now I think. UCE made some new russian soldiers with the right pattern.

Hawk
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: OCOM_LMLVLM on 30 Oct 2002, 06:50:40
Yeah, now we mostly use tiger camo.......
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Bibmi on 31 Oct 2002, 06:34:01
GOOD NEWS...BAD NEWS


GOOD NEWS : after reading some emails and a couple of threads I decided that there was too much duplication going on. I will be sending the addons to BAS, and it is up to them how they want to use/release them. The reasons are numerous (I don't have RES..can't find it anywhere here...and time is pretty tight with work and all...also I haven't been able to contact STEELE ???).

BAD NEWS : Don't know when they will be released...

GOOD NEWS : One good addon is better than a dozen sub-standard or competing ones.

GOOD NEWS : With the US special forces out of the way I can concentrate on updating the British forces with O2 models...new paras, RMs and RAFreg as well as SAS...i'll start a new thread about this...

I apologise for getting peoples hopes up and then not releasing the addons. That is not my style, but a poor ability to write cpp's and time constraints have forced this situation.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: ofpeditor on 31 Oct 2002, 07:57:38
I must admit mate, my hat goes off to you for many reasons:
a) you know your limits
b) you know that quality over "getting it out there" is more important
c) your work is impressive
d) you're thinking for the community vs for your own interests

Hats off to you mate, hats off...
cheers
ofpeditor
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Ferret Fangs on 31 Oct 2002, 08:28:27
Well, I'm happy... mostly.
I mean, this is what I was hoping would happen, the sort of cooperation that produces fewer but higher quality addons.
But it's a shame that you feel kind of beaten up about it, Bibmi.
It seems as though it's a win-win, for you and us end-users... Bravo Zulu Bibmi!
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Coporal_Punishment on 31 Oct 2002, 11:40:44
Well think about it this way we no longer get another authors US Special Forces and now we get the first 02 moddelled British Units. This will be great know america deoesn't need to take all the glory on the battlefield.  ;) ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 01 Nov 2002, 00:27:09
Bibmi, good move!  Consolidation of quality addons makes singular 110% quality addons rather than fragmented 95% quality addons.

From what I saw in the thread where BAS people discussed the major Special Forces addons, they were thinking of releasing packs of a chopper or two with a specific special operations team that would usually use that helicopter.  I do not think any of that is set in stone, however, so who knows how these addons will come out.  In any case, they will definitely come out well.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Frandsen on 09 Nov 2002, 20:24:24
reinforcements has arrived               ;D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: jahallo on 12 Nov 2002, 11:31:54
Any updates?
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 21 Nov 2002, 06:00:31
Any word from BAS on what is being done with the addon?  I hope it is not just sitting on someone's hard drive.  :-\
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Eviscerator on 21 Nov 2002, 06:07:46
i believe skaven and frandsen are working hard at merging the delta and rangers at the minute
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 22 Nov 2002, 02:35:10
Frandsen and Skaven are working on the SEALs right now, and I know Frandsen has some Delta Boys in the works that look good, but that's a little way off I think.
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Eviscerator on 22 Nov 2002, 03:08:56
frandsen and skaven are working on about 7-10 different types of soldiers at the minute...
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Chomps on 22 Nov 2002, 03:34:04
Well, that is great to hear!

But, umm.... well.... a picture is worth a thousand words.  ;D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: PunkerSXDX on 22 Nov 2002, 05:33:49
Send Frandsen a PM he'll post something... eventualy he did it for me!  :D
Title: Re:Bibmi's Modernised West Soldiers???
Post by: Skaven on 22 Nov 2002, 10:21:54
Yes, we're working on the Seals and Delta, a lot of new models,textures and some cool surprises, some of the models are made from Bimbi which as usual is top quality, Thanks Bimbi  ;)