Author Topic: M14/w scope (Read 6404 times)

Viking · « **on:** 26 Aug 2002, 16:30:49 »

How about a M14 /w. scope. Like Gary Gordon (or was it Ray Frank) had in BHD? Anyone?

FltSgt · « **Reply #1 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 16:34:23 »

That'd be an M21 then...

Messiah · « **Reply #2 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 17:19:22 »

roflmao - exactly what i was gonna say

Killer Angel · « **Reply #3 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 18:21:16 »

nah, he wants an M14 with red-dot scope. Thats not an M21.

FltSgt · « **Reply #4 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 19:24:52 »

would that be a red-dot scope and laser guided exploding bullets?

SEAL84 · « **Reply #5 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 20:54:50 »

A red-dot scope? Those are used more on SMGs and such than rifles...an M21 is indeed just a slightly modified M14.

Why a red-dot scope on a full-sized rifle?

ZIKAN · « **Reply #6 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 20:54:57 »

Sarcasm is the poorest form of wit.... so they say. Enough said.

Yes i think that will be a good add on, quite easy to produce i should imagine.
Indeed it was Randy Shughart who used the 7.62 M14 in Black Hawk Down.

Viking · « **Reply #7 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 22:31:18 »

Thanks, Zikan!

Now, does anybody have the time to make one? An M14 with a red glassed scope(whatever that does).
Thanks.

Eviscerator · « **Reply #8 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 22:34:48 »

probably about ten seconds to do a red dot scope...just swap the m21 sights for the xm with scope...

Viking · « **Reply #9 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 23:01:29 »

Errrrmmm... Eviscerator,
I am looking for an M14, and not an M21, even though they look quite alike.

Eviscerator · « **Reply #10 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 23:06:00 »

you want an m14 with a red dot scope...an m14 with a scope is called an m21....

Viking · « **Reply #11 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 23:13:21 »

Ok. Sorry.

So, could anyone make one? I can't. PLEASE! ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Eviscerator? You made it sound so easy.

Viking · « **Reply #12 on:** 26 Aug 2002, 23:15:12 »

And make the weapon itself (not the scope) light brown. Like an M14, please!

Eviscerator · « **Reply #13 on:** 27 Aug 2002, 02:45:02 »

it probably is easy to do, but i cant be bothered, way too much work already...

tai mai shu · « **Reply #14 on:** 27 Aug 2002, 04:29:47 »

me and my father own several different versions of m14's.

the m21 is simply a m14 with a modified free-float barrel, thus "accurizing" it, it also has a side mounted sight rail designed to fit the 3-9x30mm ART scope. the m24 is also a heavily modified m21, but the upper receiver lacks a gas piston. it is bolt operated.

Jakerod · « **Reply #15 on:** 27 Aug 2002, 05:06:33 »

I think he is talking about the m4 guys with a scope...not sure though.

Viking · « **Reply #16 on:** 27 Aug 2002, 09:20:48 »

Look. All i asked for was an M14 (M21) colored light brown w/ a red glassed scope. Not an M4. Please.

CrunchyFrog · « **Reply #17 on:** 27 Aug 2002, 16:23:24 »

Quote

the m24 is also a heavily modified m21, but the upper receiver lacks a gas piston. it is bolt operated.

Aint the M24 build over the Remington 700 or something? excuse moir if Im wrong...

Schoeler · « **Reply #18 on:** 27 Aug 2002, 19:09:14 »

Yeah I thought the M24 was based off of the civilian Remington 700. The M21 is indeed an accurized M14 with glass embedded stock, floating barrel and a scope. The barrel is carefully selected for accuracy and only match grade ammuntion is used. Snipers often hand select their ammunition and even trim the bullets with a knife, polishing them to get a better flight profile. UCE made an M21 with a walnut stock, take that and switch the sights to a red dot and you have your wish.

Oh by the way the civilian version of the M14 is the Springfield M1A1 and you can obtain one for around $1000 to $1400 U.S. The accurized version is the M1A1 Super National Match Rifle and sells for around $2000 to $2500 U.S. Both of these are nices pieces to own and extremely fun to shoot.

Nokic · « **Reply #19 on:** 27 Aug 2002, 20:22:10 »

We (ABv AddOns) made a M14s sometimes ago.
Look at the following Link:
http://www.123h.ipme.de/foreignstuff.html
THX to T.S.C.Plage for Webspace

Greetz BeErZyMoTiC

Viking · « **Reply #20 on:** 27 Aug 2002, 23:10:32 »

BeErZyMoTiC! THAT THING IS BEUTIFUL!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D ;D Where do I get it?

madmedic · « **Reply #21 on:** 28 Aug 2002, 08:35:27 »

umm...eh'hum...What he is refering to is an M21 with an Aimpoint site.

Yes,...an M21 is an accurized M14 (match barrel/trigger/bedding)
Randy Shuggart carried one,...

and yes,...an M24 is a Remington 700 action.

Viking · « **Reply #22 on:** 28 Aug 2002, 14:46:47 »

Errrrmm... Thanks for all the info guys, but could someone please make one? Try using Eviscerators idea. It sounds pretty easy. (i don't have the software to do it, though.)
PLEASE!

KTottE · « **Reply #23 on:** 28 Aug 2002, 15:08:08 »

More info on the M14 and all that.

I would have to agree with the people who objected against a red dot sight on a rifle. Why would you need a short-range sight for a long range weapon?

madmedic · « **Reply #24 on:** 28 Aug 2002, 21:36:12 »

Quote from: KTottE on 28 Aug 2002, 15:08:08

More info on the M14 and all that.

I would have to agree with the people who objected against a red dot sight on a rifle. Why would you need a short-range sight for a long range weapon?

I would imagine he wants to depict Delta sniper Randy Shuggart,...who carried one with an Aimpoint site.
He is not the only one to deploy an Aimpoint on a sniper rifle, they are EXCELLENT sites,...and the M14/M21 is Absolutely deployable as a short/medium/long range rifle.
Shuggart carried one into Bakara Market (which was an urban warfare setting, "close, and medium range") because he preferred the stopping power of the 7.62 Nato round, over the 5.56 round.

Personally, I would LOVE to see someone make some good models of rifles with Aimpoint sites (the M16/M4, and the M21 at the least)

Schoeler · « **Reply #25 on:** 29 Aug 2002, 00:18:34 »

There is an M4 out there somewhere with an aimpoint sight, I used to have it once. Don't know if I still do (scratches head?) but I will look. Be a nice addition to the M4 pack though.

CrunchyFrog · « **Reply #26 on:** 29 Aug 2002, 20:51:42 »

like this?

PIC

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/_hosted/awol/Jahve/m14.jpg

DOWNLOAD

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/_hosted/awol/Jahve/M1A.zip

Mady by Jahve

SEAL84 · « **Reply #27 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 01:46:09 »

I'm just wondering, no intention of starting anything here, but I'm curious - where did you get the info that he carried an Aimpoint? I know it may very well be trivial stuff, but I own the book BHD and saw no mention of that in there.

Chomps · « **Reply #28 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 02:58:37 »

Quote from: CrunchyFrog on 29 Aug 2002, 20:51:42

like this?

PIC

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/_hosted/awol/Jahve/m14.jpg

DOWNLOAD

http://ofp.gamezone.cz/_hosted/awol/Jahve/M1A.zip

Mady by Jahve

Oooh, very nice! Unfortunately not very compatible with Resistance.

BlackDeath · « **Reply #29 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 03:21:34 »

Indeed will make sure and tell him about making it res compatible :-)
-BlackDeath
EDIT:also new sounds are being made for it :-)

Chomps · « **Reply #30 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 03:38:59 »

Excellent!

madmedic · « **Reply #31 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 04:57:53 »

Quote from: SEAL84 on 30 Aug 2002, 01:46:09

I'm just wondering, no intention of starting anything here, but I'm curious - where did you get the info that he carried an Aimpoint? I know it may very well be trivial stuff, but I own the book BHD and saw no mention of that in there.

Saw references to it on History Channel documentary about the battle, also read it in first hand accounts of the incident written by soldiers who were there. (I will see if I can dig up that link for you

)

Anyway,...the original request by Viking was for a rifle like the one he used in the movie...(which was indeed, an M21 with an Aimpoint site)

Viking · « **Reply #32 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 17:14:25 »

Thanks, madmedic for helping bringin' this back on track. It's not that i don't want all this info, but could you guys please try to keep with the initial question? Thanks, CrunchyFrog for posting that link. That rifle is good(exept for the muzzle flash bug). All it really needs is a bit longer scope(or am I wrong?) and the muzzleflash bug fixed(i can do that myself, but it would be better if it was fixed before it hit the net!

)
Anyone wanting to help?

madmedic · « **Reply #33 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 21:49:13 »

Viking, I didnt download the rifle CrunchyFrog posted,...But I looked at the picture,...and if you want an M21 rifle with an Aimpoint like in Black Hawk Down, Thats It...You can fix that muzzle flash real easy.

I just might download that rifle,

Eviscerator · « **Reply #34 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 22:16:21 »

its a beta

Viking · « **Reply #35 on:** 30 Aug 2002, 22:26:39 »

I've fixd the muzzle flash, and the rifle is very good. It will take part in all of my sniper missions. Thanks to Jahve for makin it!

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