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Offline Kaio23

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Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« on: 15 Jan 2008, 07:03:39 »
Hey guys,

A small group of modders were working on porting the USS Nimitz into ArmA with the permission from the original creator, Hawks. However, before they could finish, they were deployed overseas, and conversion on the carrier had stopped. As far as I know a static version was working with refuelling/re-arming capabilities. In my case, what I need is a floating static object. I don't need it to repair or refuel, move, or attack, I just need a carrier that floats. Anyone know what I'm going to need to do with the config files to achieve this?

A link to the thread: http://www.flashpoint1985.com/cgi-bin/ikonboard311/ikonboard.cgi?s=85d925e44b6fb12514bbfb0b8d082d5b;act=ST;f=69;t=56871

And a link to Hawks' Nimitz if you want to take a look at it: http://operationflashpoint.filefront.com/file/Nimitz_Carrier;35975

I tried just changing the version needed and making the config as "ArmA" as possible, but the game CTDs and gives me an error saying something about the model not being version 7 or something like that. Any ideas?

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #1 on: 15 Jan 2008, 17:59:22 »
Unfortunately, the Nimitz model files are not compatible with ArmA, being version 7 I believe.

You would need an MLOD version of the model files to be able to load it into O2 and resave it as an ArmA compatible model file.

The Nimitz addon you linked to is binarized which means the model files will be ODOL versions, which cannot be loaded into O2.


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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #2 on: 15 Jan 2008, 22:27:46 »
I see. What about the Kuznetov here: http://www.ofp-arma.cznhl.com/downloads/addons_boats.php

This loads into ArmA but won't float on water....it's fine when beached on land though. In the mean time I'll try and get in touch with Hawks to get the old MLOD models. It puzzles me why more mod makers aren't porting their awesome add-ons into ArmA.

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #3 on: 16 Jan 2008, 01:27:52 »
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Unfortunately, the Nimitz model files are not compatible with ArmA, being version 7 I believe.
And what? Sounds like you never saw binarized model in ofp times... ;) Just convert it using ODOLexplorer and resave using new o2. You'll loose mass info and smooth groups - nut it's not critical and can be solved easily.
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It puzzles me why more mod makers aren't porting their awesome add-ons into ArmA.
Despite the fact that many addon makers are far not satisfied with arma there's one more thing -
most of these 'awesome' addons (inc Nimitz) are old crap for arma engine (crappy model, crappy textures, mapping etc ) - someone can think it's enough but...it doesn't change the fact.   you know it's better to start from the scratch then waste the time on this. 
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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #4 on: 16 Jan 2008, 07:44:01 »
Eh, how much time could it really take? We need something very very basic and rudimentary to act as a carrier.

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #5 on: 16 Jan 2008, 10:13:37 »
to port crappy old stuff from ofp to arma ? i guess it can be done in a night (though you never know wat troubles can appear) if you got enough experience.
But if you don't - it can be eternity )) You may also want to contact Gnat  - he posted pictures of this converted  crap at of. forums
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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #6 on: 16 Jan 2008, 15:29:08 »
Gnat never releases anything until it's 100% to his standards. Which takes forever.

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #7 on: 16 Jan 2008, 16:22:32 »
if it's so - i respect his point of view ;) believe me my standarts are even higher :D
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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #8 on: 16 Jan 2008, 16:29:43 »
please get this thread back on topic.

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #9 on: 16 Jan 2008, 21:26:06 »
Well, if anyone wants to solve my issues with the Kuznetsov not floating on water let me know. The CFG files need to be drastically changed I imagine to get it to float and conform to ArmA's physics. I really don't know what to do so essentially I guess I'm asking someone to do all the work...in which case I won't blame you if you say no :P

Sigh.

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #10 on: 17 Jan 2008, 10:01:35 »
I'm having same problem with a ex-ofp static ship not floating, problem worse after 1.08 patch. Tried defining it in config from other objects e.g. small buoy,tried raising it in o2 but still no fix. Does anyone know how to fix this as ppl could do with a solution..  :weeping:

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #11 on: 17 Jan 2008, 16:52:16 »
Exact same problem I have, RM Snipe. In the case of the Kuznetsov the ship sinks in water, but the control tower floats in the air. When I try to do a setpos/getpos scripting work-around to get it to levitate the carrier goes at light speed across the map.

VERY frustrating...

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #12 on: 17 Jan 2008, 22:09:15 »
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I'm having same problem with a ex-ofp static ship not floating, problem worse after 1.08 patch
just setpos it to zero height through init script
Anyway a lot of work was invested in this model for ofp, but for arma there're too much flaws - bad mapping makes it flicker even in short distance, mipmaps are switching strangelly (i guess due to mapping too), geometry holes on the deck are still in there etc (i spent not very long to test it) - i don't even speak about the textures )) A lot of time needed to solve all this.
Better wait for the Gnat - he's a good coder, maybe he'll get it good in arma someday.
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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #13 on: 19 Jan 2008, 12:25:26 »
Getpos seems to work in the init field/s but not with groups in the config,ship is multi sectioned.

Cheers for the help,much appreciated...  :good:

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Re: Porting Hawks' Nimitz to ArmA
« Reply #14 on: 19 Jan 2008, 13:07:08 »
just think a bit ;) only first section apperas on map - others are created via script. setpos it in biuld.sqs then. although as i said i doubt the result will be any good without serious model changes. the



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