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Gooner861

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WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« on: 07 Jun 2004, 17:20:03 »
How the hell can my mission be 13 megs!!!!!!!!!!!

Ive zipped it and its still huge whats goin on, its a really small mission, the only thing i can think of is the custom music.

Wot do i do?

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #1 on: 07 Jun 2004, 18:19:35 »
Pack the music into a smaller format. I have five about one and a half minute long clips in my mission and their size together is a bit over 2 megs.
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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #2 on: 07 Jun 2004, 19:47:41 »
Wot so zip up the music separately or wot?

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #3 on: 07 Jun 2004, 20:15:54 »
well wotofook, you use a program to compress the music from .wav to .ogg right? So when you do that, set the compression to lower quality and the file size will be smaller.  :)
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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #4 on: 07 Jun 2004, 21:16:00 »
Wot u recommend as a decent compression rate, will the music be really bad quality if i set it to lowest compression.

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #5 on: 07 Jun 2004, 21:27:12 »
If I remember right I've been using 44100Khz frequency, mono and 48 Kbps which sounds fine. You can experiment different Bit rates, but again if I remember correctly, in music files the frequenzy has to be 44100Khz. Some one correct me if I'm wrong. It's been a few months since I've done these things.
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Gooner861

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #6 on: 07 Jun 2004, 21:30:59 »
Cheers that's helped loads  ;D .

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #7 on: 07 Jun 2004, 21:53:01 »
Ive managed to get it down to 3 megs but thats still 2 big for my liking. I'll just have to get rid of sum of my songs.

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #8 on: 07 Jun 2004, 22:50:08 »
If it's a multiplayer mission 3 megs IS too much (unless it's the mission of the millenium, which everyone is going to have). If it's for singleplayer, I don't think 3 megs is too bad (unless it's not anything worth the download, especially for 56k modem users)  ;D
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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #9 on: 07 Jun 2004, 22:59:17 »
Yeah be nice to us 56kers like me! ;D

If the mission is GREAT and doesn't pack a lot of addons and is 2.5mb I'll download it. 3mb is stretching it as it takes something like an hour or so to get on my pc.

Good luck though.:thumbsup:

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #10 on: 07 Jun 2004, 23:13:26 »
AN HOUR???

I have 56k......3mb would take about 5 mins....or less.


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Gooner861

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #11 on: 08 Jun 2004, 00:01:22 »
Its my first ever mission so it aint gonna be the best, so i dnt want people to have to download a large probably not good mssion.

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #12 on: 08 Jun 2004, 00:23:20 »
in music files the frequenzy has to be 44100Khz

I'm pretty sure that the samping rate of 44.1 Khz ,or 44100hz,  is just the maximum sampling rate supported by ofp for music/sound files...

you should be able to use as low of a sampling rate as whatever you program you're using to convert supports.  

Generally the range of 44.1khz is consumer standard for digital audio applications, even though it still has poor sound quality compared to the professional gear out there... ( I often record at sampling rates upwards of 96Khz in professional applications)

 44.1Khz was chosen to satisfy the Nyquist Theorem, which states that in order to digitally encode the desired frequency bandwidth , the selected sample rate must be at least twice as high as the highest frequency to be recorded.

Thus an audio signal with a bandwidth of 20Khz (very close to the accepted range of human hearing) would require a sampling rate of at least 40,000 samples per second (40Khz).

In addition if any signals that are greater than one half of the sample rate are allowed to enter the conversion process , then alias frequencies will occur which might be heard as audible harmonic distortion


So.. to make a long point.. uhh.. long...  

you can use as low of a sampling rate as you want.. but the sound quality will decline greatly at anything lower than a sampling rate of 40 Khz


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« Last Edit: 08 Jun 2004, 00:23:48 by Kaliyuga »

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #13 on: 08 Jun 2004, 03:21:07 »
Okay Planck I've thought it through and it actually takes 15 minutes. I haven't downloaded anything in a llllooonnggg time. But I just recently downloaded some mission off opflashpointCZ that was 3.7 mb.

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #14 on: 08 Jun 2004, 12:50:44 »
Depends really, sumtimes its dun quickly sumtimes its reallllllllly slow.

I'm gonna try and make evry mission i can without tons of addons cos i h8 that, especially for us group of 56 kers.

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #15 on: 11 Jul 2004, 16:18:45 »
13 megs! How fantastic, you have to have some very good music in it i hope  :D

When i read everyone's posts i just had to post my views here that will shock 56-k'ers  :o

I make mp missions alot and usually coop's that me and my friends play but someday i hope that i can finnish a mission the 110% and not 90%  ;)
 love custom music and i have been putting music in my missions since the 1.30 days of ofp. My missions are usually between 6-15 mb in filesize and i rarely get complaints from my friends about the size, its usually about mission having to many enemies and scripts that lags it down sometimes  :P
So i got somewhat sad when i read that you guys didn't like mission to be 13 mb's. Some large large missions i think justifies great music and more than 1 track that can give people something to listen to when sneaking or running in like crazy attacking that big enemy base that will call in the a.i back ups and all that and when you sit in a truck or boat or chopper waiting for like 2 mins or 15 mins to reach your next objective or just some very "roxxor" music when you are involved in some very intense and fast firefights where the enemies come's from just about every corner every hill parachuting in around you and your buddy flying the F-18 trying to shoot down those anoying hinds and mig-29's  ;D.

For me ofp is more than a game , its like a big experience that just holds you tight and makes your ehart go warm sometimes when you see a very nice sunset or listen to a very atmospheric track and realizing that the mission was da best you ever played and that ofp is such a great game where everything can happen and almost everything can be done, anyone every tried to outrun a hind on motocycle or tryingto escape in a mark 2 bpr chased by 3-5 russian patrol boats know what i talk about.

When i read about the official mission competition had a limit on 5 mb in filesize on the mission i got a bit sad but i then realized that i just have to coupe with the fact that i have to convert the music track/s to smaller sizes and that sometimes can make the music sound very bad in worst cases or just not as god quality. I love ofp and i love custom music in missions, i just don't feel the same about missions with no music in them..  :-\

Well you guys said some good stuff about no one want to download a 13 mb mission that sucks bur for me it goes pretty fast , maybe 5 mins in slow case but i don't have 56-k so i don't have any experience about it exept that it is a bit slow. I have  a big problem with my own creations being to laggy , anyone that knows any good tricks exept removing enemies? I use group link script 1.54 in my mission and it uses only  11 addons so far, i got missions that uses 20 addons and i downloaded a special mfcti mission that used like 40 addons!  :o but most of the addons where good addons but even i thought that was like overdoing it a bit  :)

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #16 on: 11 Jul 2004, 16:23:05 »
It not 13 megs anymore luckily, i managed to put it right down to about 3-4 megs. Bu i agree with u that custom music does add that extra bit of atmosphere to OFP's gameplay.

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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #17 on: 11 Jul 2004, 19:09:43 »
try using .rar instead of .zip as well... on a 6mb zip, you can make it into a 4mb .rar - although does depend on some files, some .rar can work wonders with, others there is no point really as zip and rar match - just see what goes.
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Re:WTF 13 MEGS!!!!!!!!!!!!
« Reply #18 on: 23 Jul 2004, 19:48:04 »
well wotofook, ...

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