NEED HELP WITH CAMPAIGN

[m21man]

i think most people have a hard enough time keeping their men alive already

Exactly. It'd be a huge challenge!

[.pablo.]

i think most people have a hard enough time keeping their men alive already

let me stress the

hard enough

people like challenges as long as they are fair, putting the player by himself against delta force isn't very fair

[m21man]

That's why it could be optional whether you want to fight the Americans. If you don't want to fight them, then run!!!

[.pablo.]

oh i get it now, so the real enemy would be the enemy tribes...

[m21man]

Yeah, and maybe if you make too much of a stink in an area, then the Americans show up to break up the fight and shoot up your militia-band.

[LTGrizzly]

Ok first of all
The MOG Mile will be a mission starting early morning with a cut scene of the Lilbirds engaging targets like the movie/book then mission will be early morning with UN trps entering the city and escorting US out of there basically it will end once u get out of the city limit and your not being engage (remember that the US troops were escorted with APC) and the outro cut scene will be trps at paki stadium part this will conclude the campaign! then the outroto the entire Somalia Conflict

Second the ? marks mean that I need input from team members to see if it will work with the exception to Embassy Evac because im still doing research on the State Dept web site, As for the other missions with ? they happen USMC mission in Somalia was to escort/secure convoys, arrest Bad guys, and secure major roads and CP

As for the training/Irene part this happen in real life (go to www.dod.gov/, though to view some pages you need a DOD password/clearance which I have! )
Rangers train every day so in the game you will train it will consist of an obstacle course and range as well as repelling, and full alerts this is were the Irene Part comes in (When base was put on Full alert the troops general bordered Choppers or assisted in reinforcing perimeter(s))
To Phantom I have played virtually all blackhawk down missions that I could find  I can truly say they are all worthless just basic rip-offs of the movie and do not display or depict what has happen in mog or Somalia, this is because Most mission makers go in right in to making thier mission and not what really happen as for my teams mission(s) they will be historically accurate depicting the life of a ranger/marine in every way possible with in the game. Also I pride Myself of being lucky enough to be born in a country were i have the right and freedom to have my opinon, So in another worders kiss my yankee  :booty:
 
Still conversing with my team about these missions
10. Lost Convey?? Will be  Col. Danny Mcknight trying to Nav trough mog unknown if we will do need info from team members
11. Sniper to the Rescue??? Will be Delta Sgt. First Class Randy Shughart and Master Sgt. Gary Gordon at Mike Durants Crash Site

THIS WILL NOT BE ONE OF THOSE CRAPPY BHD MISSIONS BUT A COMPLEX CAMPAIGN ON MILITARY OPERATION IN SOMALIA  

PS
1.I don't think I can make the Somalian militia mission maybe as a second realese when my campaign is a SUCCESS ;D
2. We are curently working of a Map of Mog and Western cost of Somalia that will be very accurate taken from, picture satt images, And Terrian details
3. Its gona kick A$$ trust me!!! Were using great scripts,  music autentic radio transmmision, and the best addons

[m21man]

The MOG Mile will be a mission starting early morning with a cut scene of the Lilbirds engaging targets like the movie/book then mission will be early morning with UN trps entering the city and escorting US out of there basically it will end once u get out of the city limit and your not being engage (remember that the US troops were escorted with APC) and the outro cut scene will be trps at paki stadium part this will conclude the campaign! then the outroto the entire Somalia Conflict

Not to be overly annoying, but what's the fun of OFP if you're not fighting? Besides, huge APC columns + city environment = APCs crashing around like drunks.

[m21man]

Sniper To The Rescue

Even with the goddawful aim of OFP soldiers, they will end up hitting the snipers extremely quickly. Unless you were to make a little script that reduces the damage done by each bullet, then the Deltas will perish too quickly to make a viable mission. Perhaps you could do a mission where you are a Little Bird pilot attempting to defend the crash site .

[m21man]

Speaking of which, are you going to do any helicopter missions? For instance, you could pilot one of the AH-6s during the gun runs (DON'T HIT YOUR GUYS!!!), or you could play Star Four One and land in an alley then evacuate the Deltas at Crash One.

[Phantom]

grizzly, you need to understand that the movie took creative license. they had to make composite characters and such to get as much of the story in as possible.

sure they train every day,  but what's so fun about pressing enter, then choosing rappel. there's no skill involved, it's just pointless boredom. i forgot about the training part, i remember reading about it now.

but as for the movie being innaccurate, I think Col. Lee Van Arsdale and Col. Tom Matthews would take great offense to that. They were not only the advisors for the movie, but I've heard them say themselves how accurate it is. I've heard Col. Danny McKnight and MSgt. Matt Eversman say it as well.

this also seems to be turning into self advertising. don't tell me what to think about your campaign. just tell me what your doing and let me decide for myself

[max_killer_payne]

Not to be overly annoying, but what's the fun of OFP if you're not fighting? Besides, huge APC columns + city environment = APCs crashing around like drunks.

Couldnt agree more. All that will happen is that really annoying thing, when the vehicles decide to bounce up and down   and the somlias will kill you with ease. Soldiers in OFP have amazing accuracy. You and your sqaud will reporting 'OH NO! 2 IS DOWN' and 'DAMN, 1 IS DOWN' with a constant shift of command. Also the deltas were low on ammo, and the somalias had vehicles with MG mounted on. And on OFP allowing the enemy to get within 1000m with an M2 MG with enemy units will lead to certain death. I mean, have a go at this by all means. But what your trying to do, is practically impossible.

[Phantom]

max is right.
it's all balance. between realism and fuctionality. fact, and what works. sure, i'd love to be able to have it like real life, i'm probably one of the most public pro absolute-realism people in this forum. But experience has taught me that it just don't work that way.

[LTGrizzly]

Well first let me clear this up I said that peoples (basically the mission makers) rendition of the movie is inaccurate in no way or form did I say that the Movie was inaccurate I thought the movie covered the points that the book and other documentation of the account, quite accurately


On a second note I have not had the problem with large convoys running in to things basically the way to counter this I think is to add a lot of way points and keep them on the major roads If you remember the first part of the convey mission there was I believe 16 vehicles and in the second there were over 40 (and half of them split up and ¼ got lost again) basically there will be some good scripts(ing) involved

As for the Snipers they will die eventually your mission will be to secure the crash site for as long as possible I am still not sure if my team at Hooah wants to add this mission

As for training mission(s) we will add two. But on a plus you will be able to skip training missions because as stated "what fun of it" now I believe I  will add a lot to these so maybe you might want to try it out first

As for the "Mog Mile"  It not just the convey and no fun you will need to do a lil recon then moving then recon as not to get lost with the convey and find your way out of the city ( someone said that they were let go) that is not true infact the only reason that retreating soilders were not engaged heavily towards the end was that that was considered friendly territory and somolians were burring the dead as to Islamic customs
At first when the convey finds you will use the convey for cover while you begin retreat then begin to recon streets ahead to find the best rotes out to paki stadium
Third I have not covered this in previous post the mission briefings. I will make the mission briefings as real as possible with the proper notes RoE's PoB's, CoC's ect. It will be taken form the DoD site about Mog


I really appreciate your Input and concers
and remember that

THIS WILL NOT BE ONE OF THOSE CRAPPY BHD MISSIONS BUT A COMPLEX CAMPAIGN ON MILITARY OPERATION IN SOMALIA  

PS also rember that this is constatly changing as to see what works with OFPR and OFP, I think I covered everything and if i did not cover your concern repost Also remember that this is not just the Armys mission in Somalia but it will cover the USMC and USN mission aswell

[LTGrizzly]

One more thing we we are still creating our Somalia/Mog map with all the western Citys included 3% done
also we are creating a Somalian Miliatia Addon that will have diffrent sizes to the charectors ect but there is no status on this because we have no addon maker yet

[.pablo.]

i like good training missions, one of the problems i see with most gamers is they skip the training and then complain when the mission is "too hard."  as long as the training is teaching the player how to stay alive in the "real thing," it is just as important as any "real" mission.