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Title: MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 08 Feb 2003, 00:25:20
Take it for free:) From

http://www.flashpoint.ru
http://www.flashpoint.ru/addons/pafiledb.php?action=file&id=94

14 weapons.

[img removed]mg42.jpg[/img]
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: At.St_Walker on 08 Feb 2003, 00:39:09
MMHHHHHHHHHHHHH.....  :'(  :'( no comment.. (the ammo box is wrong also..)


This is better:
http://digilander.libero.it/storiamilitare/be45/bestofshow/aamg42.htm

At  8)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 08 Feb 2003, 00:44:39
PPSH
[img removed]ppsha.jpg[/img]
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: At.St_Walker on 08 Feb 2003, 00:51:44
Good  !  I like this PPSH 41 ! :)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 08 Feb 2003, 01:05:02
MP40
[img removed]mp40.jpg[/img]
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: M_S_Holder on 08 Feb 2003, 04:28:59
This site's in Russian, and you have to go to the forums, and then you have to register, and then you have to download each one at a time, and then they are all zipped in RAR format.

I'll wait to get this one.
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Eviscerator on 08 Feb 2003, 04:40:14
isnt this highly illegal?
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 08 Feb 2003, 05:08:22
This link work for you?
http://www.flashpoint.ru/data/addons/pehota-weapon/up_ww2_weapons.rar
3.36 mb - Old version
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pertti49 on 08 Feb 2003, 06:41:21
Good work mate :) only bug was that garand has 10 mag instead should be 8, can u convert also mohaa playermodels as well?
greetings:pertti49
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Marss911 on 08 Feb 2003, 07:44:49
Upminder sorry agen for what happend before :-/
My fold dint read the Read me file.
 :-[

But as what evis sayd i still dont feel good about the
weapons. Because its still stealing you can tell all rights go to
Ea but i think you need 2 ask them first if you may do this and then
you can release the weapons.
But thats what i think of it.

Marcel
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Frosty on 08 Feb 2003, 13:03:46
Well, if you're going to start with the weapons, can you do the us army and ranger uniforms with original flashpoint face model as well.

The legality of this act can be debated, cos if he bought the game, and frontline and has released them for free, its no different from anyone stealing textures or sounds from the game.
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: leonardt on 08 Feb 2003, 15:08:55
have to agree with frosty on this one, cos moh sounds are available for mods all over the place, I can't see the difference if he bought the original game and does this without any profit motive, and I hope that he can also do the figure/player models as well.

 :-*Leonardt
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Eviscerator on 08 Feb 2003, 22:49:10
erm, so if someone came into your house and took your TV and gave it to someone free this wouldnt be illegal, even if they paid £5 to watch it once or twice they dont have the right to take it, the licenses on games allow the person to use it for themselves, normally if they take the textures and models without permission and put it into another game its illegal, no matter what, the same goes for sounds, so yes frosty, the legality can be debated, but the legality of murdering someone can be debated, it doesnt mean its not illegal and highly wrong :)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Jolly Green Giant on 09 Feb 2003, 01:02:35
erm, so if someone came into your house and took your TV and gave it to someone free this wouldnt be illegal, even if they paid £5 to watch it once or twice they dont have the right to take it

yeah but he didn't pay to play it once or twice. he paid for the whole game, so if someone paid for a whole tv and took it, that would be different. that is not stealing.

if you pay for something you should be able to do what ever the hell you want with it. (as long as it doesn't kill someone)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pepper2k on 09 Feb 2003, 01:14:22
Who will be so lame and tell EA anyway? :P Let the man be! Great addon ffs ;)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Eviscerator on 09 Feb 2003, 03:08:04
yeah but he didn't pay to play it once or twice. he paid for the whole game, so if someone paid for a whole tv and took it, that would be different. that is not stealing.

if you pay for something you should be able to do what ever the hell you want with it. (as long as it doesn't kill someone)
He doesnt pay for the whole game, he pays for one license of the game, an example from the ofp license agreement:


THE PROGRAM is protected by the copyright laws of England, international copyright treaties and conventions and other laws. The Program is licensed, and not sold, and this Agreement confers no title or ownership to the program or any copy thereof.

1. Limited User License. Codemasters grants you the non-exclusive, non transferable, limited right and license to use one copy of the Program for personal use on a single computer.

Blah blah....more legal babble, but an important bit:


YOU SHALL NOT:
- Copy the program, except a single backup copy.
- Sell, rent, lease, license, distribute or otherwise transfer or make available to any other person the program, in whole or in part<snip> you can read the rest if you really want by turning to the back of your ofp manual.

Now, i guarantee MOH:AA has a similar if not identical agreement, so to summarise what its basically saying is:

You have not purchased the program, you have purchased the right for you, and solely you to use this program under the conditions of the agreement, which state you can not transfer the program or any part of it (including models or textures, or sounds).


So, importing these weapon models into ofp is highly illegal...
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Kaliyuga on 09 Feb 2003, 03:17:32
   I know someone first hand that got a rather nasty letter from EA games regarding modifications  he had made to some of their models and such...
(Not for OFP, but another game )
so I would have to agree with Evis on this one guys....  

 The man knows what he's talking about
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Bronski on 09 Feb 2003, 05:32:05
You pay for the right to play the game, the intellectual property does not become yours.

Listen to Evi, he hit the nail on the head.  Besides, there are or will be models that are superior to these.  They won't be retricted by the specs that the game developers set.

When it comes to sounds you can't very well copyright the sound of a gun or a cricket.  You will hear sounds in multiple movies, games professionally developed or mods because many are from sound libraries that are bought by those making the games and such.  They bought the right to use them.

I'd rather wait for the better stuff that will be put out by the OFP community.  
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Frosty on 09 Feb 2003, 06:42:56
Well, that is all true, especially about the intellectual property stuff, but c'mon, its gonna be awhile before ANYBODY releases a SVT or K43 of MOH quality. Especially the SVT. IV44 has good quality, but jesus its gonan be awhile to finish it.
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Marss911 on 09 Feb 2003, 12:09:52
Well where doing our best.
But for good and nice stuff we need time..
Its not like you do it in one hour :)

Marcel
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pertti49 on 09 Feb 2003, 14:33:31
My personal opinion is that EA whount loose a penny if somebody makes a convertion of their weapons and whount make Mohaas sell rating any lesser
greetings:pertti49
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pepper2k on 09 Feb 2003, 15:38:17
I SAY WE RAPE THE ONE WHO TELL EA!

Btw evis, you don't have to be so cute all the time :]
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Eviscerator on 09 Feb 2003, 16:02:03
i cant help it :)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 09 Feb 2003, 23:45:39
Enfield MKII Sniper

[img removed]enfields.jpg[/img]
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: FA Dalai Lamar on 11 Feb 2003, 06:41:32
Well as a lawyer...I'd say they'd (EA) have a really tough time getting a lawsuit into court...threatening letters maybe...I'st called a bluff. Since he credits the source of these models amply in a readme and there is no profit whatsoever to upminder....he can do so  at will. We can quote international CW laws all the live long day if we want to but trust you me there is nothing "highly illegal" since the mod does not really infringe on the original games place in the market or challenge EA's ability to make a profit or infringe on their profits he is fine. Your analogy about stealing is based on your own views and not the the rules of law. I assure you that EA will be ok with or without this addons existance. I think every addon maker in this universe would be in a heap of trouble if companies were as nit-picky as Evis about CW. Much like a cover band...Upminder credits EA  with the models and textures so please spare us the puritanical preaching about stealing....To be stealing he would have to claim these addons as his own...which he does not...printed in  the readme and cpp he he credits EA very clearly.....not trying to be combative here but I just hate to see someone do something for free for the community and be hounded....I am off to enjoy my PPSH ;D

DL

PS: Evis not aiming this at you.....I see what you are saying....but please ask aany lawyer if you doubt me...British or Otherwise.....In fact this does very little to hurt EA...It just makes them look good...UPMinder...keep up the good work...especiallly that great new motorcycle. :D
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pertti49 on 11 Feb 2003, 09:55:59
Just the way it is, you took words out of my mouth ;) so how about converting playermodels? i really whould like to play with those SS guys ;)
greetings:pertti49
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: leonardt on 11 Feb 2003, 23:17:20
EA don't loose a copper penny out of this, in fact I'd say they don't know about it, never will, and would be pretty sad saps if they took any kind of legal action, simpley because it doesn't matter anywat. Good luck to Upminder, and bring on the player mods as well!

Leonard ;Dt
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Astatine on 11 Feb 2003, 23:22:05
The models are really nice and all, but how about some custom sights perhpaps??
 ;)
What are the editor names of these weapons too pls?
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 11 Feb 2003, 23:46:40
BMW :Coming Soon:)
[img removed]bmw5.jpg[/img]
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 11 Feb 2003, 23:56:49
Weapons/Ammo

UP_THOM / UP_THOMMag
UP_SVT / UP_SVTMag
UP_STEN / UP_STENMag
UP_SPRING / UP_SPRINGMag
UP_PPSHA / UP_PPSHAMag
UP_MP44 / UP_MP44Mag
UP_MP40 / UP_MP40Mag
UP_MG42 / UP_MG42Mag
UP_K98KS / UP_K98KMag
UP_K98K / UP_K98KMag
UP_GRAND / UP_GRANDMag
UP_G43 / UP_G43Mag
UP_ENFIELD / UP_ENFIELDMag
UP_ENFIELDS / UP_ENFIELDMag

Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Gogs on 12 Feb 2003, 00:58:06
Well, I can tell you that WWIIEC won't be using them! Although it may be LEGALLY OK to take them, I still question the morality of it. I'd rather wait longer as a team and make our own weapons from scratch we can be proud of, than "cheat" and use these. For now, we are using the old WWII Team P3D's and Textures on the weapons, but we already have new models, were just waiting for textures and oxenification, both of which are in progress.
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: FA Dalai Lamar on 12 Feb 2003, 04:03:23
Gogs...No offence but lighten up man...Not everyone views the creation of addons as a contest or a masterwork of art for all to behold...Upminder liked the way they looked and decided to release them for the benifit of everyone who liked them....I really dont recall seeing upminder asking you to use the addons...he just said here they are....There is enough moralistic preachiness in this world without it being here in the game world...It is after all a game....we all do this for fun.

DL ::)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Marss911 on 12 Feb 2003, 07:21:04
But its still cool when you made your own weapons and acan play whit them
Like wow i really made this..
And whit these weapons its not that feeling that someone put hard work behind it.
(no offence Upminder)

Marcel
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Kaliyuga on 12 Feb 2003, 07:28:22
     I have to agree.. nothing beats the satisfaction of making something from scratch  and seeing it go from nothing to a working, bug free add-on in-game ;D..

seeing it imported from one game to another just isn't the same..

 What  I would like to see is more original addons...  realistic.. but not neccesarily an existing weapon.. or weapons system...

I understand the need for historical mods to keep their addons true to the period.... but for other use...   originality ranks high in my list   ;)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: FA Dalai Lamar on 12 Feb 2003, 09:12:19
very true...it's amazing what you modelers can do...Marcel...you were a pioneer in modelmaking that must feel awesome to know you created the first transport aircraft...I love what all the model creators and mods are doing these days....just look at the beautiful work by INvasion, BW mod and WW2EC, NAM just to name a few....those are some of my favorite mods.....I make my own as well (albeit most of them are ones nobody would be interested in), but there is also a place for these addons as well...I used walkers PPSH for my missions....but switched to upminders MOHAA because it looks and functions so damn well....I just hate to see someone get slammed for really contributing some work even if it is just translating another games mods into OFP....Upminder is a nice guy and is talented...He can model and code as well....just look what he did with his new BMW motorcycle with Machine gun sidecar....very nice. I very much respect the talents of the original model makers, but I hate when people bash people that are really doing nothing more than just giving  to a community starving for more addons daily with no real aim other than to share work. translating models is not an easy task in itself and the coding he did is pretty innovative.
 ;D
DL
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Marss911 on 12 Feb 2003, 09:24:18
Well tnx man!! :)
It really does feel great to one of the first that made WWII weapons in OFP and so. And now see how big the "group" has grown that are now making WWII addons. In one word Fantastic :)

Marcel
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pertti49 on 12 Feb 2003, 14:47:42
cpp modify gives u chance to use what ever weapon u whant the soldiers to use ;)so free of choise pic what ever u like trooper! ;D
greetings:pertti49
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: C598 on 12 Feb 2003, 20:02:49
I see nothing wrong with using the models.

You people forget that quite a few of you have used MOHAA's sounds and textures. A model is no different.


Besides, i've been starving for a decent Ppsh 41
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 13 Feb 2003, 06:57:09
FG-42
[img removed]fg42.jpg[/img]
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 14 Feb 2003, 02:18:20
Big Updates

SVT (no sniper), Mosin (Sniper), Mosin, FG42, PDT

http://www.flashpoint.ru/data/addons/pehota-weapon/up_ww2_weapons.rar
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pertti49 on 14 Feb 2003, 22:42:14
Could u tell as weapon-names in editor, those werent in readme?
greetings:pertti49
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 15 Feb 2003, 01:25:34
Latest upload today! G43 without scope.

Weapons / Ammo

UP_FG42 / UP_FG42Mag
UP_MOSIN /  UP_MOSINMag
UP_MOSINS /  UP_MOSINMag
UP_SVTN /  UP_SVTMag
UP_G43N /  UP_G43NMag
UP_PDT / UP_PDTMag
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pepper2k on 15 Feb 2003, 16:56:59
Omfg !! A nice g43!! :D:D!! Upminder i would kiss you if i could ;D! Are you going to make a Browning 30.cal also? :P? Keep up teh good work ;)! :-*
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: C598 on 17 Feb 2003, 17:53:16
Say, Upminder, any chance you could fix that curved bolt on the Mosin Nagant? Its supposed to be strait. Apparantly EA was too lazy to make a new anim for a strait bolt, or just didn't do the proper research.
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 17 Feb 2003, 23:58:46
Update!
Add Panzerschreck, Bazooka, RPD 44.
Change DTM, Mg42 ...

http://www.flashpoint.ru/data/addons/pehota-weapon/up_ww2_weapons.rar

Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pepper2k on 18 Feb 2003, 11:04:09
You gonna make e M1 Carbine to?. that weapon is short on ofp... and many games and modmakers just forget it ;(. it owns! M1 Carbine for the people :P!
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Nokic on 18 Feb 2003, 14:57:01
lol pepper  ;D
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Marss911 on 18 Feb 2003, 15:46:08
all ready made by I44 :-P
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pepper2k on 18 Feb 2003, 17:00:16
Beerz. You bitch :P. Mars.. Yeh but if there is no demo release date.. You get stressed. And want mr Carbine til then :P! oK? :> np? :> ;D
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pepper2k on 18 Feb 2003, 17:04:41
God damnit, actually i did'nt mean "whine" i actually meant bitch. (Beerz you are a bitch) How could i get it wrong?.. OOOH well ;). Aaaaaaaaaaaalrighty then.
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: pepper2k on 18 Feb 2003, 17:20:55
WTF hahaha... You can't write b i t c h? :D::D: hahaha mostly-lol.com goddamn!
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Marss911 on 18 Feb 2003, 20:42:58
;-)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: registered_fugitiv on 21 Feb 2003, 03:03:04
hey upminder these are cool man just some suggestions though make an M1C/M1D its a sniper version of the garand and change the mosinS scope to the one on the svt
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: PFC_Mike on 22 Feb 2003, 06:34:11
geez guys, give up minder a break. I think EA has enough common sense to realize that this isn't going to hurt them at all. Is he breaking the license? Almost certainly. Does it matter from a MORAL or PRATICAL standpoint? I highly doubt it. If EA's lawyers get worked up about this, they have way too much free time and ought to be fired for avoiding real work.

I'm certainly dowloading them, and looking forward to the BMW release.
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: PFC_Mike on 22 Feb 2003, 17:21:13
could you convert some of the german units to OFP? Especially the panzer grenadiers and SS in camouflage?
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Wires on 23 Feb 2003, 06:39:20
Go the MOH:AA total conversion  ;D
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Upminder on 11 Mar 2003, 23:18:16
V 1.3

http://www.flashpoint.ru/data/addons/pehota-weapon/WW-2 WeaponsPack.rar
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Bomberman on 13 Mar 2003, 19:55:53
http://www.flashpoint.ru/data/addons/pehota-weapon/WW-2%20WeaponsPack.rar
========================
use this one ;)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Spliff air on 13 Mar 2003, 21:11:11
whats so diffreant about 1.3
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: Strangelove on 13 Mar 2003, 21:20:49
In 1.3...

Weapons / Ammo

UP_BAR / UP_BARMag
UP_THOM / UP_THOMMag
UP_SVT / UP_SVTMag
UP_SVTN / UP_SVTMag
UP_STEN / UP_STENMag
UP_SPRING / UP_SPRINGMag
UP_PPSHA / UP_PPSHAMag
UP_MP44 / UP_MP44Mag
UP_MP40 / UP_MP40Mag
UP_MG42 / UP_MG42Mag
UP_K98KS / UP_K98KMag
UP_K98K / UP_K98KMag
UP_GRAND / UP_GRANDMag
UP_G43 / UP_G43Mag
UP_G43N / UP_G43Mag
UP_ENFIELD / UP_ENFIELDMag
UP_ENFIELDS / UP_ENFIELDMag
UP_MOSINS / UP_MOSINMag
UP_MOSIN / UP_MOSINMag
UP_DTM / UP_DTMMag
UP_PZCH / UP_PZCHMag
UP_BAZ / UP_BAZMag
UP_FG42 / UP_FG42Mag
UP_RPD / U_RPDMag
UP_P38 / UP_P38Mag
mik_pzf / mik_pzfmag
granateThrow / granate
SVDM3a1 / M3a1mag
bren / brenMag

And BONUS
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Handgun WALTHER P-38  (by Upminder)
Handgrenade STIELHANDGRANATE 42  (by Mikhalich)
Grenadelauncher  PANZERFAUST 30  (by Mikhalich)
M3A1 GreasGun  (by SVD)
Bren Mk IV  (by X-man)
Title: Re:MOHAA weapons totall conversion...
Post by: lawrie5 on 14 Mar 2003, 14:19:01
Are there plans to expand this pack further and include an mg34? and some other common firearms? I think that would be just.... fabulous given how cool the pack is already?