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Title: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 11 Jan 2011, 01:12:24
I don't know is happening with my OFP (Version 1.96). When i  start playing mission, be it a campaing, single player or in the mission editor, the game begin to become slow. The way to return to normality is paused and stop
playing at least one minute. Really i don't know what's happens with my version? Because the earlier version (1.30), worked perfectly me and i passed it, despite the fact that i created missions with many soldiers

~Aldo
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: savedbygrace on 11 Jan 2011, 02:08:49
It might be that your video card is reaching its end. It could also be that the hardware needs a good dusting on the inside of the case.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: haroon1992 on 15 Jan 2011, 09:37:59
Sometimes, it can also be caused by the fragmentation.
Use softwares like Defraggler to defragment your harddisk.

(If you can't wait for long time, do a Quick one.)

Even if this don't solve the problem, you should re-install your graphics driver (or update them to the latest one)
Another idea is to re-install OFP, which might solve the problem.

Regards,
Haroon1992
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 15 Jan 2011, 17:10:00
The PC is not the problem, because I played almost 45 minutes the OFP version
1.30 and did not turn slow, then I played the version 1.00 and also went
normal. I think it is version 1.96 I've to use the defraggler and UNINSTALL  ofp v 1.96.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Zipper5 on 15 Jan 2011, 17:21:55
As a small suggestion: if your PC cannot handle OFP at v1.96, you need to upgrade your PC. :P

Keep in mind that by downgrading, anything you make at versions lower than v1.75 have the ability to play out drastically different when played at versions that are higher than it. Plus, most people still playing OFP only use v1.96.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 15 Jan 2011, 17:31:37
Are the requeriments of the version 1.96 are not the same for all version? or v 1.96 need higher requeriments?
Also the first time you install it worked perfectly. I don't know what happened  :dunno:, could it be that i have dowloaded many addons? :dry:
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Zipper5 on 15 Jan 2011, 18:28:15
Resistance (v1.75) came with engine enhancements that did indeed create higher system requirements. They stayed the same after that.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 16 Jan 2011, 01:30:29
well here are the requirements for my PC, let me know if they are needed:

Operating system: Windows XP Professional
DirectX version: 9.0
RAM: 1GB
Processor: Intel Celeron processor 550  (x86 family 6 Model 22 Stepping 1)
Processor speed: 2.0 GHz, 533 MHz, 1MB L2 Cache
Up to 252MB Mobile Intel Grapic Media
Accelerator x3100
HDD: 120GB

I tried to do what he said "haroon1992" but the problem persists

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at first the game worked, now it becomes slow. It is the only game that behaves that way. Because I have Counter-Strike 1.6 , earlier versions of OFP and work well

~Aldo
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Lenyoga on 16 Jan 2011, 15:34:38
I had the same problems with ofp (GOTY 1.96) on my old PC. Earlier versions worked fine, too.

Version 1.96 seems to have issues with certain graphic cards which occur some time after installing the game. It started with slowing down (also thought it was the addons - it wasn't!). The last thing I remember is textures blacking out and other weird stuff.

Upgrading you PC most likely won't help. Maybe someone knows which graphic card is compatible with opf 1.96. Maybe BIS knows?
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Zipper5 on 16 Jan 2011, 18:10:22
Upgrading his PC certainly will help, he's running on a crappy integrated graphics card. Those are meant for 2D display, not 3D games. Buy a... PC, that's a little more modern, because if you're having troubles running OFP then you know your PC is severely outdated. ;)
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: h- on 16 Jan 2011, 18:43:52
I think (and that means I can be wrong :P ) he's using a laptop which usually can't be upgraded and judging from the hardware it's probably a netbook and I'm pretty amazed he can run OFP with it at all..
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 16 Jan 2011, 19:10:43
It's true. I am using a laptop, but the laptop does not play ofp?  ???
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Zipper5 on 16 Jan 2011, 19:15:54
It can play OFP, as you can see, just not very well. It's a pretty weak laptop and probably, as h- said, a netbook, therefore it's not designed to do much outside of running Microsoft Word. ;)
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 16 Jan 2011, 19:39:03
Ah ... but does this include all the laptops?, or just my PC  :dry:
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: h- on 16 Jan 2011, 19:57:22
In general laptops are not meant for gaming although they might have enough power to manage some games somewhat decently. As with all computers it depends on what kind of hardware the laptop uses, in your case it seems to be quite low-end stuff.

Sadly these BIS military games are very hardware hungry.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 17 Jan 2011, 02:24:33
No problem!!! I will continue playind this game... I will continue uploading missions beta, but without addons. :good:
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: haroon1992 on 18 Jan 2011, 14:59:47
Have you ever configured the ofp graphics setting?

It can be found in the main directory of ofp with the name OFPResistanceConfig.exe (or somewhat similar to that)

And try lowering down everything in it and check the game to see if the problem is removed.

(Actually, I was playing OFP Resistance with graphics which looked the same as original ofp for almost three months, and I thought what's this all about new graphics improvements.....LOL its my fault not to discover the configuration utility.)

If that doesn't help, then you should just buy your new gaming laptop.
(PM me or ask here if you are unsure about what laptop to buy if you decide to buy one.)

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Sadly these BIS military games are very hardware hungry.I partially disagree with that.Just because I've been playing(and still playing) ArmA 2 with a Pentium 4 CPU (at 2.26 Ghz). And I could play most missions (except the ones with hundreds of scriptings and CPU consuming things)

Regards,
Haroon1992
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 19 Jan 2011, 16:41:48
I had tried that, but the ofp not work >:(  I configured the ofp grapichs  and an error ocurred.

I forgot the text tha appeared in the game. I don't Know if so:

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-1280x800x32-
-Out of memory-

I think that if so or not?
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: haroon1992 on 20 Jan 2011, 14:58:45
According to those line, you probably have problems on the graphics card of your laptop.
Or maybe someother things like:

- you are out of virtual memory ( or something called "page file memory", if i remember correctly)
(As I don't have enough time to research at the moment, I can only give you minimal advice such as :
clean up your harddisk, free-up some spaces.
(Let it have at least 1gb of free space))

(To other people : Correct me if something is wrong.(Though there is no harm in deleting unneeded files from a system.)
Regards,
Haroon1992
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: savedbygrace on 20 Jan 2011, 15:25:49
The out of memory error is occurring because your graphics card can not handle that resolution...I think. Perhaps if you ran it at a lower resolution, with lower details on everything you may be able to operate the game.

I can't see how addons are causing such lag unless you're placing a large amount of them inside the editor. The amount you can place really depends on your system and by you having a laptop, you may not be able to handle much. It's probably best to build your projects in a way that limits the amount of objects on the map at one time by using creation and deletion practices.

Hard disc space is not going to effect the game after it's loaded. You either have enough space to install the game or you don't. Once its installed, you'll only need enough space to account for created missions and user data.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 20 Jan 2011, 19:03:02
The harddisk memory not is problem!!! because I have 19.9GB free (I have installed the ofp in Disk (D)).   I think that addons are not the problem, because then the ofp would not low when i play the campaing and Single missions... :confused:

i've changed the ofp grapichs to 800x600x23. the current graphics were 1024x768x32. With resolution 1024x768x32, the ofp has been working perfectly, but there problem!!! when i try advance the time (x4000) Slows the ofp. Instead with resolution 800x600x23 work well, but the graphics is very bad.  >:(

If it ofp continies with their problems i will return to write.

EDIT: Now i have a problem. The Pistols textures don't load

Regards to all

~Aldo
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: savedbygrace on 30 Jan 2011, 22:56:03
The only time I ever experienced problems with models disappearing was when I had loaded a specific addon with the game. I would recommend loading the game with one addon at a time to narrow the cause.

There was also a time where I experienced models vanishing that were placed in visitor. It was almost always on Tonali and it was very inconsistent. In fact, I don't think I ever figured out what the cause was but I always suspected that it was my graphics card which was pretty low grade. I suspected a virus of sorts but it was never consistent enough to narrow down. I can only assume that it had something to do with the graphics card and the fluctuation in operating temperatures since heat plays a large role in slowdown and poor graphics rendering.

If you're certain that your hardware is getting enough ventilation and is relatively dust free, try isolating those addons.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 30 Jan 2011, 23:33:52
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I can only assume that it had something to do with the graphics card and the fluctuation in operating temperatures since heat plays a large role in slowdown and poor graphics rendering.

If you're certain that your hardware is getting enough ventilation and is relatively dust free, try isolating those addons.
this morning I turned off the pc, and he was very hot,  that happen everyday and ever
that i turn off my laptop.

And for example I remove all weapons to blackops and I add the m9 hand gun, the texture load, but if I add this hand gun to other unit that is not of BIS but  someone who has made it. For example BBS unit. This unit is a naval office, I think.... I'm not sure. Well, If i add this hand gun to this unit the texture don't load. Why?
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: savedbygrace on 31 Jan 2011, 10:07:13
How about giving us a link to the addon in question so that we can check it out with you.

On a side note, I would check each addon out independently before considering it's use in a mission. Back in the OFP days, many addon makers used global variables that clashed with one another. That was before they were urged to prefix each variable with an OFPEC tag to prevent that sort of thing. It could be that variables are clashing and preventing the gun from being added. I don't know for certain since I have no experience with addon configurations.

A cheap way to remedy your laptop heat up is to purchase a cooling pad.

NewEgg.com (http://www.newegg.com/Store/Category.aspx?Category=26&name=Laptop-Accessories) Newegg offers an espanol option on the right side of the search bar just below the login bar.
ComputerGeeks.com (http://www.geeks.com/search.asp?QUERY=cooloing+pads&FIELD=ALL&Submit=Go)I was not able to find a language option for computergeeks.
Tigerdirect.com (http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/category/category_tlc.asp?CatId=99&name=Cooling-Products) Scroll to the bottom of the page to select your country for translation.

Of those three, NewEgg has been my favorite.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 31 Jan 2011, 19:25:27
Here is the link of addon (http://ofp.gamepark.cz/unofaddons/bbe.zip) if this link is wrong, please tell me.

~Aldo
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: haroon1992 on 09 Feb 2011, 15:29:23
you should keep your laptop cool while playing games , because a hot laptop breaks more quickly and it also affects the battery life-span.

If you always use your laptop on your thigh, then the hot laptop will give you serious health issues.

(I always use a cooler when using my laptop, and when I can't find my cooler, I simply put five blocks of about 1.5" high under the laptop, to have better ventilation, and have the fan(portable fan with short stand) blow towards the laptop from a safe distance.)

You can always check if your graphics card or CPU is very hot by using the following softwares :

CPU-Z (http://www.cpuid.com/medias/files/softwares/cpu-z/cpu-z_1.57_asus_setup.exe)
GPU-Z (http://www.techpowerup.com/downloads/SysInfo/GPU-Z/)

It is best to stop playing if the temperature of the GPU(Graphics Card) Or CPU exceeds 80'c .


Regards,
haroon1992
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 10 Feb 2011, 19:04:23
All is fixed! I put several blocks on my laptop, and now I have a mini fan. To apparently the ofp graphics also are solved . Now I have no problems with the graphics  :clap:

Regards
~Aldo
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 16 Feb 2011, 03:12:56
Hello All!

I'll want know if my Laptop have the miminum requeriments to play Armed Assault...

Processor: Intel(R) Celeron(R) M 550 ----- (2.0 GHz)
DirectX : 9.0
DDR2 : 1GB
Graphics : 384Mb with accelerator x3100
HDD: 120GB

Regards,
~Aldo
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Zipper5 on 16 Feb 2011, 09:41:21
Nope, your graphics card is far too weak, even for ArmA, let alone Arma 2.
Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Aldo15 on 16 Feb 2011, 18:34:51
Ummm, but if the Armed Assault graphics are 128mb or higher, Why not?
Excuse me my ignorance, but I don't know anything about the graphics and requeriments of game.

Regards,
~Aldo

Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: Wolfrug on 17 Feb 2011, 09:46:25
Run this thing : http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/ on it and see what it says. A quick check on the 'net suggests the x3100 is far too underpowered however - can't even run HL2 at decent speeds. Also, you could just download the demo and see if you can get it to run (assuming slight increases in FPS due to updates) - but don't get your hopes up :(

Wolfrug out.

Title: Re: OFP problems
Post by: h- on 17 Feb 2011, 15:54:01
GPU requirements are much more than just video memory requirements, like in this case ArmA uses Pixel Shader 2.0 (I believe this translates into Shader Model 2) and your videocard seems to have no shader memory at all, which I think means you can't even the start the game.